Look how Team-BHP is being PLAGIARISED!!

prkothan · 9th November 2005, 13:19

block it for new bies?

Height of superiority complex. Remember once you too a new bie. And you'll be in some other areas. Once you a got a previlage don't try to block it for oters.

merve_extreme · 9th November 2005, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by prkothan

block it for new bies?

Height of superiority complex. Remember once you too a new bie. And you'll be in some other areas. Once you a got a previlage don't try to block it for oters.

it was just a suggestion.why are u trying to give it a dirfferent twist.

i said that newbie's may not like it,and it was not considered seriously since it is not a very nice solution.

sorry if you are hurt,but dont make it a personal issue.

Samurai · 9th November 2005, 14:36

How will search engines index our reviews if we hide them under images? Lots of members here came across Team-BHP while searching for car reviews, myself included.

islero · 9th November 2005, 15:28

I agree. Indexing wotn work with this kinda security.

sandeepmdas · 9th November 2005, 16:02

Merve and all,

I am not flaming you, but IMHO, Team-BHP will have to shut its ops down within the next 3 months, if we move this idea (text-to-image)
into production tomorrow.

2fast4u · 9th November 2005, 16:23

The easiest thing to do is to disable Ctrl C as is done in many other websites.
HOW EASY IT IS I DONT KNOW.????

I am not into computers but this is what can be done i feel.

GTO · 9th November 2005, 16:53

Merve,

Firstly, Thanks for suggestion and the efforts. However we do not see it as a viable proposition because :

1. It is a very labor intensive We have tried to automate most processes of Team-BHP so that we can focus on the important, and let the software take care of matters where our interference is not necessary.

2. If someone still does want to plagiarise, they will find a way across. There is only so much we can do about this matter but the support shown by all of you in this thread should dissuade future trouble makers.

3. We will NOT restrict any section to unregistered guests. Team-BHPs information base is to benefit one and all.

GTO

Conan · 9th November 2005, 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

We will NOT restrict any section to unregistered guests. Team-BHPs information base is to benefit one and all.

This one of the usp's of this forum. If we place restrictions we are no better than Microsoft. Maybe we can have memeberships by invitation only.

Conan

hrag · 9th November 2005, 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTO

We will NOT restrict any section to unregistered guests. Team-BHPs information base is to benefit one and all.

This is good thinking.

I don't intend to take focus away from the copying bit but as long as we know (or are assured) that the posts here are genuine (and credit given where it is due), copying from this forum really doesn't matter (IMHO).

DueLLeR · 9th November 2005, 18:45

Hi fellow tbhpians,

This thread seems to invoke and envigourate my software muscles. Though a post from me comes after quiet a while, I have thus far remained a 'background' process on tbhp

Weighing all the pros and cons of feasible solutions, in my opinion, the most cost-effective (zero) and maintenance-free solution to prevent unauthorized reproduction of our reviews is to disable text selection.

Just as mentioned by 2fast4u, this solution will make sure that a user cannot select text on our Website. It will disable Ctrl + A, Ctrl + C, click-and-hold mouse selection, and right-click + Copy - thereby ensuring that text cannot copied by any standard means. However, if the user does a Print Screen and uses the image in an OCR software, he might be able to reproduce our content on another Web site.

This solution can be implemented by including a simple javascript in our PHP template.

Demo:
[HTML]
<html>
<body>
<script language="javascript1.2">
function disabletext(e){
return false
}
function reEnable(){
return true
}
//if the browser is IE4+
document.onselectstart=new Function ("return false")
//if the browser is NS6
if (window.sidebar){
document.onmousedown=disabletext
document.onclick=reEnable
}
</script>
You can't copy this!
</body>
</html>
[/HTML]
To view this demo:
1. Copy & paste this HTML code into Notepad.
2. Save the file with a .html extension. Remember to set 'Save as type' to 'All Files'
3. Open the saved file. It will open in IE/Mozilla/Netscape/Opera/Firefox depending on which is your default browser.
4. Try selecting text

The solution, courtesy: http://www.devdreams.com/tutorials/t/50

Cheers!

Samurai · 9th November 2005, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DueLLeR

This thread seems to invoke and envigourate my software muscles. Though a post from me comes after quiet a while, I have thus far remained a 'background' process on tbhp

Even this can be easily defeated. Save the page from the File menu. Open it in notepad and delete the entire javascript block and save it. Now open file in the browser and it is a free country... I mean page.

RX135 · 9th November 2005, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai

Even this can be easily defeated. Save the page from the File menu. Open it in notepad and delete the entire javascript block and save it. Now open file in the browser and it is a free country... I mean page.

Or even simpler, just disable javascript option in browser for that page ;-)

merve_extreme · 9th November 2005, 19:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by RX135

Or even simpler, just disable javascript option in browser for that page ;-)

And the simplest just quote it.it will open in reply editor and then you can plainly cut paste.

a solution to this issue does not exist because the requirments on forums like ours are contradictory to each other.

Steeroid · 9th November 2005, 19:31

Duh! One would think that by now someone would've invented a Read-Only-Website which disables print, copy, paste, any form of editing or even quotes.

All you software brains get on the job and do some real work instead of reading all this...at least Merve here has tried to apply his mind to the problem.

DCEite · 9th November 2005, 19:50

Instead of a client side scripting language such as Javascript, if the above code could be reproduced in server side language (ASP etc.) than i think a solution could have been found..

9th November 2005, 13:19	#166
prkothan BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 180 Thanked: 39 Times	block it for new bies? Height of superiority complex. Remember once you too a new bie. And you'll be in some other areas. Once you a got a previlage don't try to block it for oters.
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9th November 2005, 14:36	#168
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,547 Times View My Garage	How will search engines index our reviews if we hide them under images? Lots of members here came across Team-BHP while searching for car reviews, myself included.
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9th November 2005, 15:28	#169
islero Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,574 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	I agree. Indexing wotn work with this kinda security.
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9th November 2005, 16:02	#170
sandeepmdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Varkala Posts: 1,538 Thanked: 2,491 Times	Merve and all, I am not flaming you, but IMHO, Team-BHP will have to shut its ops down within the next 3 months, if we move this idea (text-to-image) into production tomorrow.
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9th November 2005, 16:23	#171
2fast4u BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: pune / Bahrain Posts: 488 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	The easiest thing to do is to disable Ctrl C as is done in many other websites. HOW EASY IT IS I DONT KNOW.???? I am not into computers but this is what can be done i feel. Last edited by 2fast4u : 9th November 2005 at 16:24.
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9th November 2005, 16:53	#172
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,534 Thanked: 300,734 Times View My Garage	Merve, Firstly, Thanks for suggestion and the efforts. However we do not see it as a viable proposition because : 1. It is a very labor intensive We have tried to automate most processes of Team-BHP so that we can focus on the important, and let the software take care of matters where our interference is not necessary. 2. If someone still does want to plagiarise, they will find a way across. There is only so much we can do about this matter but the support shown by all of you in this thread should dissuade future trouble makers. 3. We will NOT restrict any section to unregistered guests. Team-BHPs information base is to benefit one and all. GTO
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9th November 2005, 18:45	#175
DueLLeR BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vashi / Navi Mumbai Posts: 214 Thanked: 123 Times	Eureka, eureka! Hi fellow tbhpians, This thread seems to invoke and envigourate my software muscles. Though a post from me comes after quiet a while, I have thus far remained a 'background' process on tbhp Weighing all the pros and cons of feasible solutions, in my opinion, the most cost-effective (zero) and maintenance-free solution to prevent unauthorized reproduction of our reviews is to disable text selection. Just as mentioned by 2fast4u, this solution will make sure that a user cannot select text on our Website. It will disable Ctrl + A, Ctrl + C, click-and-hold mouse selection, and right-click + Copy - thereby ensuring that text cannot copied by any standard means. However, if the user does a Print Screen and uses the image in an OCR software, he might be able to reproduce our content on another Web site. This solution can be implemented by including a simple javascript in our PHP template. Demo: [HTML] <html> <body> <script language="javascript1.2"> function disabletext(e){ return false } function reEnable(){ return true } //if the browser is IE4+ document.onselectstart=new Function ("return false") //if the browser is NS6 if (window.sidebar){ document.onmousedown=disabletext document.onclick=reEnable } </script> You can't copy this! </body> </html> [/HTML] To view this demo: 1. Copy & paste this HTML code into Notepad. 2. Save the file with a .html extension. Remember to set 'Save as type' to 'All Files' 3. Open the saved file. It will open in IE/Mozilla/Netscape/Opera/Firefox depending on which is your default browser. 4. Try selecting text The solution, courtesy: http://www.devdreams.com/tutorials/t/50 Cheers!
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9th November 2005, 19:31	#179
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	Duh! One would think that by now someone would've invented a Read-Only-Website which disables print, copy, paste, any form of editing or even quotes. All you software brains get on the job and do some real work instead of reading all this...at least Merve here has tried to apply his mind to the problem. Last edited by Steeroid : 9th November 2005 at 19:40.
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9th November 2005, 19:50	#180
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,417 Thanked: 2,559 Times	Instead of a client side scripting language such as Javascript, if the above code could be reproduced in server side language (ASP etc.) than i think a solution could have been found..
	() Thanks