What can we as Team BHPians do for our roads and cities?

Psycho · 10th November 2005, 14:30

The rains have brought out the age old problems of deterioriating roads across the country. This brings up the following as issues:

1) Bad road laying: City councils and the engineers are to blame
2) Incomplete Town Planning
3) Bad driving sense leading to traffic jams all across
4) Lack of mass transport systems, or need for increased mass trasnsportation systems

and many more...

All of this leads to all of us having to face higher accident rates, higher fuel consumption, higher repair bills due to higher maintainence costs etc even after paying our taxes deligently.

So the question now: "What can we do to drive the Govt to provide the right facilities and infrastructure?"

Joz · 10th November 2005, 14:56

[quote=Psycho]

3) Bad driving sense leading to traffic jams all across

I am not sure if we can reall 'enforce' anything, we can only 'educate' a great deal though.

Educate everyone possible - word of mouth, emails or any other means of communication which actually doesn't cost.

Apart from infrastrucutre porblems leading to traffic congestion, every other driver on the road adds to it, because he thinks his 5 seconds is much more important than anyone else's on the road.

We could lay out a given set do's and dont's which are universally true in any situation, and circulate it among who ever might be willing to read through it.

For example, crossing the yellow line (unless directed by the officials), will only add to the problem and never solve it. I hope you guys get the drift.

With regard to the officials and the cops, i think the need a tight whack for being what they are.

jkdas · 10th November 2005, 15:10

educate the police guys first.

bribe the ministers/officials to do what we tbhp guys say.

get team-bhp stickers for your cars. report tbhpian who dont above road rules in here

i hate the word town planning. ask any guys from Trivandrum abt it. they have a new under bridge which #$%^&*(, shame . They made the bridge and now they are thinking how to correct the traffic coz now the bridge causes traffic jam!

And, fun apart, introduce toll to drive inside high congestion areas ( mate,it worked in UK). Bikes and local transport dont need to pay for it.

hellmet · 10th November 2005, 15:18

Hey great man!
Your suggestions sound good to me.
All TBHPians can make a summary of good points/rules to be followed that we can take printouts of,and then distribute them in our local libraries,clubs,among friends etc...

normally_crazy · 10th November 2005, 16:59

Just keep your cars at home and take the public transport ! after that "MAYBE" the authorities might feel to improve the public transport as they feel the load !

sheeesh...am i day dreaming or wat ? if only wishes were horses !

Rtech · 10th November 2005, 17:36

hahaha...keep dreaming NC. If that happens, they'll say that as there are less cars on the roads, they don't need to bother about them so they can sell more land to the builders!!

karthik247 · 10th November 2005, 18:34

Well..the road conditions in India are not gonna improve, no matter what. The only thing we could be doin is to drive safe, and teach others to do the same. And ofcourse, get more people to join Team-BHP

satan_crazy · 10th November 2005, 18:36

one way to start would be to punish those goons caught by lok ayukta.
i hope somehow a no-confidence-motion is raised. and if there are re-elections, i'll create a new row called "None of These" in the ballot paper and put a stamp there.
i honestly feel it is high time someone from the IT starts a new political party; ofcourse, hoping that these guys don't stoop down to the levels of the current government.

DrunkenMonk · 10th November 2005, 20:31

My brain locked-up thinking about this one...

On Indian roads, you can be an traffic hazard even if you conscientiously
follow traffic rules... And you are seen as a freak if you do follow rules.

The chaos has more to do with the Indian mindset (you would'nt want to
go *there*) rather than on the pathetic condition of the infrastructure.

- mvnk

srasania · 10th November 2005, 21:26

man,you know.. we need to do our small bits on the road to teach people some road manners..
a few things that i do -
1.Whenever someone honks before the signal turns green,I just roll down the window,make a hand sign to tell him to fly above my vehicle and jump the signal..
2. Whenever I see anyone spitting on the road at signals,I make a bad face/say chhe !..!
3.whenever people cross the road even though they see cars coming towards them,and they don't give us right of way,i stop the car,roll down the window,and tell them-thank you for letting me use your roads..(ofcourse-in hindi !)
4.whenever some taxi is standing to alight/wait for a passenger in double lane,i stop for a min. by his side,and tell him he's stopped in wrong lane..the taxi alight lane is the one adjacent to the divider in the middle of the road..and not the left most lane..!

well,that's the bit i can do to improve some road sense among everyone in a gentle way..and hope i make that small difference to our roads everyday as a team bhpian !

cheers,
sr

Steeroid · 10th November 2005, 22:04

Make sure everyone follows this:

http://www.chandigarhtrafficpolice.org/

Aditya · 10th November 2005, 22:40

After all those complaints about screwed up roads, all the Mumbai municipality did was black list a few contractors. That's not the solution. What angered me even more was that when a newspaper brought the situation of the city's roads to the then CM's notice, he said, he was not aware that the roads were bad. Nobody in the cabinet / govt. organisation had told him anything about it. Boy does this guy know his land and people well!
The only way they are going to be able to repair a road is by closing it to the public for a day or two and doing a thorough repair job (not just patchwork). If vehicles pass over a newly done-up road, everything is going to be undone. Now, I know people will say that in a city like Mumbai where the traffic is as dense as anywhere, this is not possible, but, it's the only solution. Everyone will have to take a detour.

amitoj · 11th November 2005, 10:45

Check this out:
http://www.bangalorepotholes.com/

Steeroid · 11th November 2005, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by amitoj

Check this out:
http://www.bangalorepotholes.com/

Dude, this is too good...it says NO POTHOLES FOUND ON BANNARGHATTA RD.

Virtual solution to real problems?

amitoj · 11th November 2005, 10:52

Considering the site opened just today morning, u gotta show a little patience. its upto people like you and me to report the potholes.

EDIT: looks like your prayers have been answered, Steeroid. Go here:
http://www.bangalorepotholes.com/def...rmprbs&frmid=1

and search for bannerghatta road.

10th November 2005, 14:30	#1
Psycho Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,043 Thanked: 110 Times View My Garage	What can we as Team BHPians do for our roads and cities? The rains have brought out the age old problems of deterioriating roads across the country. This brings up the following as issues: 1) Bad road laying: City councils and the engineers are to blame 2) Incomplete Town Planning 3) Bad driving sense leading to traffic jams all across 4) Lack of mass transport systems, or need for increased mass trasnsportation systems and many more... All of this leads to all of us having to face higher accident rates, higher fuel consumption, higher repair bills due to higher maintainence costs etc even after paying our taxes deligently. So the question now: "What can we do to drive the Govt to provide the right facilities and infrastructure?"
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10th November 2005, 14:56	#2
Joz BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 247 Thanked: 2 Times	My 2 cents [quote=Psycho] 3) Bad driving sense leading to traffic jams all across I am not sure if we can reall 'enforce' anything, we can only 'educate' a great deal though. Educate everyone possible - word of mouth, emails or any other means of communication which actually doesn't cost. Apart from infrastrucutre porblems leading to traffic congestion, every other driver on the road adds to it, because he thinks his 5 seconds is much more important than anyone else's on the road. We could lay out a given set do's and dont's which are universally true in any situation, and circulate it among who ever might be willing to read through it. For example, crossing the yellow line (unless directed by the officials), will only add to the problem and never solve it. I hope you guys get the drift. With regard to the officials and the cops, i think the need a tight whack for being what they are.
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10th November 2005, 15:10	#3
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	educate the police guys first. bribe the ministers/officials to do what we tbhp guys say. get team-bhp stickers for your cars. report tbhpian who dont above road rules in here i hate the word town planning. ask any guys from Trivandrum abt it. they have a new under bridge which #$%^&(, shame . They made the bridge and now they are thinking how to correct the traffic coz now the bridge causes traffic jam! And, fun apart, introduce toll to drive inside high congestion areas ( mate,it worked in UK). Bikes and local transport dont need to pay for it. Last edited by jkdas : 10th November 2005 at 15:11.*
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10th November 2005, 15:18	#4
hellmet BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: GTA \| GHMC Posts: 886 Thanked: 1,025 Times	Hey great man! Your suggestions sound good to me. All TBHPians can make a summary of good points/rules to be followed that we can take printouts of,and then distribute them in our local libraries,clubs,among friends etc...
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10th November 2005, 16:59	#5
normally_crazy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,369 Thanked: 528 Times View My Garage	Just keep your cars at home and take the public transport ! after that "MAYBE" the authorities might feel to improve the public transport as they feel the load ! sheeesh...am i day dreaming or wat ? if only wishes were horses !
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10th November 2005, 17:36	#6
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	hahaha...keep dreaming NC. If that happens, they'll say that as there are less cars on the roads, they don't need to bother about them so they can sell more land to the builders!!
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10th November 2005, 18:34	#7
karthik247 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR, HYD Posts: 2,710 Thanked: 30 Times	Well..the road conditions in India are not gonna improve, no matter what. The only thing we could be doin is to drive safe, and teach others to do the same. And ofcourse, get more people to join Team-BHP
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10th November 2005, 18:36	#8
satan_crazy BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 129 Thanked: 0 Times	one way to start would be to punish those goons caught by lok ayukta. i hope somehow a no-confidence-motion is raised. and if there are re-elections, i'll create a new row called "None of These" in the ballot paper and put a stamp there. i honestly feel it is high time someone from the IT starts a new political party; ofcourse, hoping that these guys don't stoop down to the levels of the current government.
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10th November 2005, 20:31	#9
DrunkenMonk BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 80 Thanked: 3 Times View My Garage	My brain locked-up thinking about this one... On Indian roads, you can be an traffic hazard even if you conscientiously follow traffic rules... And you are seen as a freak if you do follow rules. The chaos has more to do with the Indian mindset (you would'nt want to go there) rather than on the pathetic condition of the infrastructure. - mvnk
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10th November 2005, 21:26	#10
srasania BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orlando, FL, USA Posts: 321 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	man,you know.. we need to do our small bits on the road to teach people some road manners.. a few things that i do - 1.Whenever someone honks before the signal turns green,I just roll down the window,make a hand sign to tell him to fly above my vehicle and jump the signal.. 2. Whenever I see anyone spitting on the road at signals,I make a bad face/say chhe !..! 3.whenever people cross the road even though they see cars coming towards them,and they don't give us right of way,i stop the car,roll down the window,and tell them-thank you for letting me use your roads..(ofcourse-in hindi !) 4.whenever some taxi is standing to alight/wait for a passenger in double lane,i stop for a min. by his side,and tell him he's stopped in wrong lane..the taxi alight lane is the one adjacent to the divider in the middle of the road..and not the left most lane..! well,that's the bit i can do to improve some road sense among everyone in a gentle way..and hope i make that small difference to our roads everyday as a team bhpian ! cheers, sr
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10th November 2005, 22:04	#11
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	Go to this site, follow it verbatim Make sure everyone follows this: http://www.chandigarhtrafficpolice.org/
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10th November 2005, 22:40	#12
Aditya Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17,830 Thanked: 77,033 Times View My Garage	After all those complaints about screwed up roads, all the Mumbai municipality did was black list a few contractors. That's not the solution. What angered me even more was that when a newspaper brought the situation of the city's roads to the then CM's notice, he said, he was not aware that the roads were bad. Nobody in the cabinet / govt. organisation had told him anything about it. Boy does this guy know his land and people well! The only way they are going to be able to repair a road is by closing it to the public for a day or two and doing a thorough repair job (not just patchwork). If vehicles pass over a newly done-up road, everything is going to be undone. Now, I know people will say that in a city like Mumbai where the traffic is as dense as anywhere, this is not possible, but, it's the only solution. Everyone will have to take a detour.
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11th November 2005, 10:45	#13
amitoj Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Windham, NH USA Posts: 3,348 Thanked: 3,100 Times View My Garage	Check this out: http://www.bangalorepotholes.com/
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11th November 2005, 10:52	#15
amitoj Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Windham, NH USA Posts: 3,348 Thanked: 3,100 Times View My Garage	Considering the site opened just today morning, u gotta show a little patience. its upto people like you and me to report the potholes. EDIT: looks like your prayers have been answered, Steeroid. Go here: http://www.bangalorepotholes.com/def...rmprbs&frmid=1 and search for bannerghatta road. Last edited by amitoj : 11th November 2005 at 10:55.
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