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Old 17th October 2024, 13:39   #17716
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I am baffled.
Gambhir and Rohit have played for last 2 decades and they still couldn't see the conditions will favor seam bowling. Bat first and didn't pick 3rd seamer. How atrocious is this decision making. Even armchair experts like us knew we should have bowled first.

Nz batters look at ease. Would be a miracle to come back in this game now or Rain might help.
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Old 17th October 2024, 13:45   #17717
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Nz batters look at ease. Would be a miracle to come back in this game now or Rain might help.
Never rely on the weather to save games, especially with such pathetic performances, with limited game time if New Zealand manage a lead of say 100+, this game is gone.
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Old 17th October 2024, 14:37   #17718
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Nothing going India's way today. The overcast conditions have now turned into sunshine and the moisture in the pitch has dried out too, giving the NZ batters ideal conditions. If only we had survived that first session somehow. The batting unit have really shit the bed with 5 ducks in the top 7. I hope they redeem themselves with extraordinary effort in the second innings.
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Old 17th October 2024, 14:48   #17719
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Just like our cricket team, I wouldn't depend on our IMD. Skies are blue and whatever clouds are present are clearing out too. Did India expect NZ will have to face spinners on turning wicket on the last innings ? Its not a dust bowl. Even if it was completely sunny, it will not be harsh.

Don't think pitch has changed much. Bounce was used by NZ seamers very well.

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Everyone is blaming the Indian batters which is justified but how about praising the NZ bowlers! They bowled in the right channels with not too many loose deliveries.

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I am baffled. Gambhir and Rohit have played for last 2 decades and they still couldn't see the conditions will favor seam bowling. Bat first and didn't pick 3rd seamer. How atrocious is this decision making. Even armchair experts like us knew we should have bowled first.
They were always looking to bat first so there was no point picking the 3rd seamer! Clearly, the team management didn't expect this much lateral movement. Seems like Gambhir & Co. forgot that Kiwi bowling is much more skillful than Bangladeshi bowlers.

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Till when we will keep carrying Virat is beyond me now. Even Pak dropped babar. Kohli doesn't wants to play domestic and rectify his batting flaws and prefers chilling in London whenever he can. It's time he should be dropped and asked to go back to domestic.
He could have been dropped or rested for a few Tests of this NZ series or Bangladesh series or those inconsequential games in SL! But he obviously won't be working on his game in domestic matches. Virat isn't really the same player as before due to a variety of reasons!

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Rohit and especially Gambhir have been quite loud during press conferences. Having a fearless mentality is important, but you must respect the playing conditions and the opposition.
It was a tactical blunder to move Virat to no.3 & promote Sarfaraz to no.4 in seaming conditions once Gill was unfit. KL should have moved upto no.3 since he has experience of opening before. Sarfaraz never had a technique to counter lateral movement so he should have remained down the order. Jadeja with a decent defensive technique in seaming conditions should have been promoted up the order. This fearless mentality related PR campaign is all good against lowly Bangladesh but when confronted with difficult conditions you have to give the 1st session to the bowlers.
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Old 17th October 2024, 16:15   #17721
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Nothing going India's way today. I've watched the game for the last 15 mins, and I've already seen two close LBW's overturned on DRS, Jadeja of all people missing a run out chance, and Rohit spilling a tough but catchable chance in slips. Kuldeep is beating the bat twice an over without any luck. We might still lose this game because of the 46 all out, but it's good to see some fight, especially after the overhead conditions did a 180°

Edit: Rohit drops another tough but catchable chance.

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Old 18th October 2024, 02:06   #17722
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I don't think a win is a real possibility for India now but if they can avoid defeat in this, it would be a great result for them from this position.
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I would be the happiest if team india is thrashed 3-0 by the black caps. I'm sure they have come for the kill.

Enough is enough.
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I don't think a win is a real possibility for India now but if they can avoid defeat in this, it would be a great result for them from this position.
The one possibility for India to save the game was the weather, but it’s a beautiful day with clear blue skies and the Indian loss seems very imminent, New Zealand are going strong at 203/4.

It’s a sport, wins and losses are part and parcel but the manner in which our batting crumbled is very deeply saddening, would’ve been happy if we had put up some kind of rear guard fight to resurrect the inning, speaks volumes about our batting in terms of skills and resolution especially on tracks and conditions that have something for the seamers. It seems like New Zealand are batting on a different pitch!
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The one possibility for India to save the game was the weather, but it’s a beautiful day with clear blue skies and the Indian loss seems very imminent, New Zealand are going strong at 203/4.
Remember NZ has to bat last on this pitch if we are able to score well in the 2nd innings. Currently trailing by 192 runs. If we are able to apply ourselves and bat to our potential to get a 200 run lead by day 4 end or even day 5 (1st session) then it will be interesting. Not defending the '46' but few criticism are very harsh (like the one below!)

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I would be the happiest if team india is thrashed 3-0 by the black caps. I'm sure they have come for the kill.

Enough is enough.
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If we can keep them under 250, some one has to put his hand up and get us close to 400 in second innings, chasing 150 on this pitch will be tough.

It is still technically 2nd day pitch and currently should be a very good time to bat, time for top order to step up.
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I would be the happiest if team india is thrashed 3-0 by the black caps. I'm sure they have come for the kill.

Enough is enough.
Why?

What is enough?

Just because the captain made one mistake and the batting line up failed?
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Old 18th October 2024, 11:27   #17728
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Ravindra century. He has toyed with our bowling with good strike rate.

Will be monumental task for India now. Hope we get to bat today and have some runs on the board. Will still be hopping tomorrow morning against their pacers. Let see if the match can last into the 5th day. England too have failed with their bazball, but never like this.
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What a sublime display of batting by Rachin, looked all the way in control, specially the foot movement to the spin bowling and never looked out of place.

Captain making some serious strategic mistakes, should have brought in fast bowler somewhere near 74/75 over mark when both batsmen were toying with spin, considering lunch was around the corner. And a useless overthrow, Ashwin looked too ordinary on a spinning bouncing wicket.

Match is almost out of India's grasp but it would be interesting to see the application of Indian batsmen in 2nd innings and how they fight and show their character & grit, that’s how champion teams take the bull by horn. Beauty of test match, even have to fight the skin out for the draw.

Meanwhile Pakistan cruising towards a much needed deserving win after losing 10+ matches on their home soil, and who could have imagined spinners are making them win

England living but dangerously and depending too much on sweeps rather than playing on merit of the ball. Bazball in spinning condition is a failure.

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There was a fightback to begin the day when we reduced NZ from 193/3 to 233/7, but it was spectacularly squished by Rachin Ravindra's 100 and Tim Southee's run a ball 49. The pasting given to Ash, Jaddu & Siraj just before lunch was a statement. Let's see how we respond.

It's not all doom and gloom though. The pitch will turn as the game goes on and NZ have only Ajaz Patel as their spinner, with part timers Rachin & Glenn Philips to assist. The Indian batting unit have a great opportunity to redeem themselves in this match itself.
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