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Kohli and Shastri should be sacked after this embarrassment. We just cannot allow a repeat of this in England and Australia. Time to promote Dravid to the senior team coach from the junior team coach position (or bring back Kumble), and groom Rahane as the next captain. | |
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The below tweet from Sanjay Manjrekar sums up the situation pretty well: ![]() | |
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| ![]() It is too early to talk of Kohli and captaincy, but the Shastri - Kumble issue was mismanaged by the Board as was said by some at that time as well; given the inertia that prevails in BCCI, it will probably take an England reality check for something to be done about that. The coach may do much less on the field in cricket, but overall he can be a very effective counter balance to letting a single and probably immature person call all the shots. Just because that counter balance is seen as unwelcome isn't reason enough to throw it away. |
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| ![]() The target of under 300 took me away from being pragmatic to a fantasy world and I imagined our batsmen may just pull it off. The last session of play on day 4 itself brought me back to reality! For too long our bowling in overseas conditions was criticised but now the real concern should be batting especially in non-sub continent conditions that don't have flat tracks (where our batsmen are dinosaurs). These same batsmen are sitting ducks where pitches can assist swing or pace bowling. All said and done, there is a reason why I like test cricket - it is predominantly "predictable" based on statistics (with no bearing on team composition & history usually repeats from the point of view of statistics) and when a team beats all odds to win in such situations, it is truly a commendable victory and rare. Alas, this wasn't the case in this series so far! This isn't the case in limited overs cricket as there are too many games played and unexpected victories aren't as rare. Last edited by NPV : 17th January 2018 at 19:00. |
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| ![]() Quote: I feared that it is India's batsmen who will loose the match for us. That is what has happened. A slightly spirited performance from the batting line up would have resulted in a much better performance. In the seamer friendly pitches we do have the bowling calibre to put up a fight. Which is not what I can say about the batting side. We simply (current selection) do not have the calibre. Pujara widely acclaimed as a good test batsman does not have a good overseas record. The only person other than Kohli who has the ability, is not in the team. Pandya's innings in the first test is not that is going to be repeated very often. | |
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While we criticise the coach and captain,I feel BCCI is at fault here too, back-to-back series with hardly any time between each, players are human after all. | |
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It's a short video so there may be further context to it but this is a ridiculous answer by Kohli. Totally unwarranted. Quote:
What if Rahane had played instead of talent and had scored the same amount of runs ? My feeling is that we were too aggressive with the team selection. Selecting Pandya as the all rounder and an so called aggressive batter like Talent over a more dependable Rahane were bold calls, maybe taken with some amount of overconfidence in our batting and the previous results at home. All of us are criticizing the captain in hindsight, and maybe rightly so. History has seen us play 4 bowlers and not be able to take 20 wickets. In addressing that, we weakened our batting too much believing that 5 batters in form will score as many as 6. It turned out to be a wrong call. Fine, learn from it and move on.... | |
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![]() Explained it here Oh and one more thing - not taking anything away from Ngidi's great performance, but the Indian batting has become the launchpad for yet another rising star bowler ![]() Last edited by NPV : 17th January 2018 at 21:28. | |
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And the BCCI need to nip this yes man culture in the bud once and for all. What is Shastri's role and what has he done that Kumble hasn't? Kohli needs to be told that he is expected to work with people who may not agree with his ideas everytime. If he has a problem with that then we need to have a new captain. | |
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An ideal team would be a Pakistan bowling strength and Indian batting strength; not the other way around ![]() | ||
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| ![]() I'm a little baffled by all the calls for picking Rahane in the playing eleven. He has been visibly struggling in the recent past. A quick Statsguru check shows that in the last year.
Now it's very tricky to argue that you should pick Rahane due to his stellar overseas record. We played 3 tests in Sri Lanka in 2017 (in which he did reasonably well) and the overseas tour before that was in the West Indies in July-Aug 2016. That's not a selection criteria. And you don't pick a guy on fielding alone for a test match. The right thing to do would have been to drop him from the squad so that he can regain his batting form and make a strong comeback. Picking him in the touring squad and not playing him was not the right thing to do. |
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Keeping fingers crossed and hoping Rahanae and Bhuvi makes a come back in the third test. | |
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| ![]() I don't think selection has much to do with our loss. We needed at least two batsmen to apply themselves in both innings at both venues. Two of them applied themselves in two innings. There was no substantial partnership, and the team lost wickets at regular intervals. This was the perfect platform for players like Rohit and Dhawan to prove themselves, bit alas. |
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