[snaronikar]

Originally Posted by esteem_lover

snaronikar, can i have my crate of beer now or do you want to wait for the final match ?

You can come any time to Bangalore and ask for this...

[harry10]

Originally Posted by suman

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Now a comment from me - Historic win for India on Sri Lankan soil, without the Fab Four & (Diabloo, you listening :P) without Sehwag. Clarion call for the future, at least as far as the Fab Four are concerned

I know its a gr8 win but getting Fab four in this is kinda unFair
1. - Test and Odi are very different so comparison is not fair.
2.- except raina and dhoni no one else has clicked much, we won cos bowling was outstanding so youngsters from batting point of view haven't done much.
Kohli,Yuvraj,Rohit Sharma had been a flop.

Still without Sehwag also its a real great effort to win By dhoni & co.

[suman]

Originally Posted by harry10

I know its a gr8 win but getting Fab four in this is kinda unFair
1. - Test and Odi are very different so comparison is not fair.

Don't forget that not so long ago, except for Laxman, the other three were part & parcel of our distinguished ODI team

[karanraheja]

Originally Posted by harry10

Kohli,Yuvraj,Rohit Sharma had been a flop.

Who do you think got us off to a decent start yesterday??? Kohli has performed decently IMO. Sharma comes quite down the order so you cant really expect much from him but yea he has to be consistent. Badrinath should get more chances and maybe promoted up the order.

[Eddy]

Personally, I don't think Kohli is ready for international cricket yet. He looks out of sorts and needs some more domestic cricket under his belt.

[esteem_lover]

Originally Posted by Eddy

Personally, I don't think Kohli is ready for international cricket yet. He looks out of sorts and needs some more domestic cricket under his belt.

Agree with you on this. I do not see any replacements for the fab 4 in the current bunch. So it is going to be Fab 4 for the next fabulous 4 years.

[harry10]

Originally Posted by karanraheja

Who do you think got us off to a decent start yesterday??? Kohli has performed decently IMO. Sharma comes quite down the order so you cant really expect much from him but yea he has to be consistent. Badrinath should get more chances and maybe promoted up the order.

Decent is really an overrated word in cricket. We need quick and brisk starts in all conditions and wickets. This was jz placid wickets of SL and SL bowling attack is not too good when you compare with OZ,SA,Eng,And now even NZ. He will struggle big time on good wickets as he never looked confident and his footwork was patchy.
Also he cant fill in for Sachin. No way!

[diabloo]

Fab 4 never won a series in SL. Other than winning an odd match, they haven't done anything remarkable in Oz, SA, Eng & Nz.

Note: Before you mention NatWest win in Eng, its was achieved by Yuvraj & Kaif partnetship, after the Fab 4 had given up.

[harry10]

It was the Fab 4 who took Indian team to world cup Final in 03 not the current lot and there statistics speak for their ability.
The point is Odi demands a lot from the body energy and as Ganguly/dravid/laxman cannot give the required they are out. Sachin is an exception as his intensity level is still the same but at some point sooner he has to leave Odi's as well!
All said Dhoni is doing a remarkable job in inspiring the young lot so i do hope we will see a good team in future

The only thing we lack is a genuine all rounder (irfan pathan is scratchy and i had hopes from yousuf pathan but he is out of team right now)

[karanraheja]

Originally Posted by harry10

Decent is really an overrated word in cricket. We need quick and brisk starts in all conditions and wickets. This was jz placid wickets of SL and SL bowling attack is not too good when you compare with OZ,SA,Eng,And now even NZ. He will struggle big time on good wickets as he never looked confident and his footwork was patchy.
Also he cant fill in for Sachin. No way!

Buddy you cant go blazing all guns when the balls doing quite a bit ! Kohli was just an replacement!! From where did Sachin come into the picture???
Kohli was just picked as an extra batsmen , apparently he was leading scorers for India A tour to Australia before this series. I agree with other members he surely needs some practise in domestic. When Sachin and Sehwag come in theres obviously no chance for Kohli.

[harry10]

Originally Posted by karanraheja

Buddy you cant go blazing all guns when the balls doing quite a bit ! Kohli was just an replacement!! From where did Sachin come into the picture???
Kohli was just picked as an extra batsmen , apparently he was leading scorers for India A tour to Australia before this series. I agree with other members he surely needs some practise in domestic. When Sachin and Sehwag come in theres obviously no chance for Kohli.

Dude i was just making a point that we do not have a replacement for Sachin yet!
In Tests we cant replace Laxman and dravid (Ganguly is dispensable as he is not doing anything since long)

Anyways i guess we all are glad Dhoni is doing a fab job with the Odi team and as Kumble is aging fast i can see Dhoni being the test captain in a year or so.

[diabloo]

Who can replace a God ?
So plan of finding a replacement for Sachin and then replacing him must be shelved.
Anyway Indian Cricket team is not Nepal to always have a 'breathing' God.

Originally Posted by harry10

Dude i was just making a point that we do not have a replacement for Sachin yet!

[suman]

Originally Posted by harry10

Dude i was just making a point that we do not have a replacement for Sachin yet!

Life continues - remember Michael Schumacher?

Originally Posted by harry10

Ganguly is dispensable as he is not doing anything since long)

There are lots of people who feel exactly the same way about Sachin

And please, don't tell me about the record books

[harry10]

Originally Posted by suman

Life continues - remember Michael Schumacher?

There are lots of people who feel exactly the same way about Sachin

And please, don't tell me about the record books

If you see the Grand Prix now its nothing it use to be when Michael was there and noone is still winning as much as he use to so Diff in class is diff in class always!

I wonder why people are so reluctant in looking towards record books, records are not created by magic, people work very hard for them. If a guy has 11000 test runs,15000 odi runs, around 90 combined centuries, quiet a few wickets. nobody gifted it to him. He has earned it by sheer hard work and dedication for last 20 years!
Having said that i dont mean ganguly is an inferior player as he has a good ODI record 2 but off late he is doing nothing to justify his place in team and that can also be taken with a look at current statistics(and trust me its true statistics do not gives complete picture but atleast some picture)

[diabloo]

So till when does the 'breathing' God plays? Till another 'breathing' God is found? Or the God knows when to quit? Or the selectors don't have the 'powers' against God?