Nationwide UID - will it work?

carboy · 7th October 2013, 15:27

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Originally Posted by bblost

My point is that your argument that NO ONE asks for your Pan Card while travelling is flawed.

Huh - while traveling means - for checking in to an airline or train etc. I haven't been asked for my PAN card by an airline or a train because the Govt insisted they do so. For eg, while traveling, if I go a bar and they ask for age proof - I would consider that request for age proof a drinking related request rather than a travel related request.

bblost · 7th October 2013, 15:31

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Originally Posted by carboy

Huh - while traveling means - for checking in to an airline or train etc. I haven't been asked for my PAN card by an airline or a train because the Govt insisted they do so. For eg, while traveling, if I go a bar and they ask for age proof - I would consider that request for age proof a drinking related request rather than a travel related request.

How do you buy your flight tickets?

If you are buying from a Travel agent by using cash (>25,000), then you need to provide your pan card.

Samurai · 7th October 2013, 15:38

bblost, if you have read some novels about communist countries during cold war time, you will be able to understand what carboy is trying to say.

carboy · 7th October 2013, 16:46

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Originally Posted by bblost

How do you buy your flight tickets?

If you are buying from a Travel agent by using cash (>25,000), then you need to provide your pan card.

Yes, but you have the option of not buying it with cash. And yeah - if you pay by card or cheque, then the bank knows your PAN number. But that's not my point. PAN Number is not a national id card.

bblost · 7th October 2013, 16:55

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Originally Posted by Samurai

bblost, if you have read some novels about communist countries during cold war time, you will be able to understand what carboy is trying to say.

I think carboy is worried that random police constables would ask him to prove his identity.

That he will be expected to carry some sort of an id-card on him at all times.
Just to prove who he is.

The fear of bio-metrics is that the id-card becomes a part of your own body and hence it cannot be left at home.

I am not sure if that is a bad thing. Although for the record I have not registered for Aadhar nor do I intend to.

AltoLXI · 7th October 2013, 18:08

Link to Usha Ramanathan's article in The Statesman on the companies selected for the UID project:

http://www.thestatesman.net/news/524...13.html?page=1

sgiitk · 8th October 2013, 14:09

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/23710592.cms

so they have finally woken up from their coma!

sa_kiran · 9th October 2013, 19:46

Aadhar not mandatory for LPG subsidies - http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/a.../1/313900.html

deathwalkr · 9th October 2013, 20:01

"The new law seeks to create a National Identification Authority of India, which will oversee implementation of the Aadhaar project. It also seeks to define the penalties in case of misuse of data collected under the project."

You mean it is not in place now?!?!

sa_kiran · 15th October 2013, 19:50

http://moneylife.in/article/aadhaar-...ani/34884.html

Aadhaar de-duplication myth busted. Any answers, Mr. Nilekani?

One person from Kerala enrolled and successfully received two Aadhaar numbers. This raises serious question over the de-duplication theory and practices of UIDAI.

Deep Blue · 18th October 2013, 15:23

Finally my number has arrived, after nearly two and half years of enrolling and complaining everywhere.
I got a message from pgportal saying my complaint is resolved. On checking the website, I found my Aadhar number there.Promptly jumped to Aadhar site and generated the e-aadhar.

Dont know if pgportal had a role to play as few family members who had not complained to pgportal also got their numbers. I guess a whole block of backlog was cleared recently.

sa_kiran · 31st October 2013, 15:58

Still want to continue with Aadhar?

Nationwide UID - will it work?-image830283228.jpg

carboy · 31st October 2013, 17:34

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Originally Posted by sa_kiran

Still want to continue with Aadhar?

For me, this is not relevant. I don't want Aadhar even if they made it super secure, unforgeable, uncrackable and FIPS 140-2 Level 4 certified. An insecure Aadhar is a good thing. It will make the Govt less confident about make it compulsory for all kinds of stuff till we end up with a "Papers, Please" country.

sa_kiran · 3rd December 2013, 20:39

West Bengal resolution asks Centre to de-link Aadhaar from DBT - http://t.co/OSGmPz2DxH

CIA link to Aadhar - http://t.co/3HO6lUhs8O

carboy · 3rd December 2013, 21:11

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Originally Posted by sa_kiran

CIA link to Aadhar - http://t.co/3HO6lUhs8O

Personally, I am more worried about my data falling into the Indian Govt's hands than into CIAs hands.

7th October 2013, 15:38	#393
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,547 Times View My Garage	Re: Nationwide UID - will it work? bblost, if you have read some novels about communist countries during cold war time, you will be able to understand what carboy is trying to say.
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7th October 2013, 18:08	#396
AltoLXI BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 420 Thanked: 1,660 Times	Re: Nationwide UID - will it work? Link to Usha Ramanathan's article in The Statesman on the companies selected for the UID project: http://www.thestatesman.net/news/524...13.html?page=1
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8th October 2013, 14:09	#397
sgiitk BANNED Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurugram Posts: 7,969 Thanked: 4,788 Times	Re: Nationwide UID - will it work? http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...w/23710592.cms so they have finally woken up from their coma!
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9th October 2013, 19:46	#398
sa_kiran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Thane Posts: 515 Thanked: 169 Times	Aadhar not mandatory for LPG subsidies - http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/a.../1/313900.html
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9th October 2013, 20:01	#399
deathwalkr Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 1,284 Thanked: 4,145 Times View My Garage	Re: Nationwide UID - will it work? "The new law seeks to create a National Identification Authority of India, which will oversee implementation of the Aadhaar project. It also seeks to define the penalties in case of misuse of data collected under the project." You mean it is not in place now?!?!
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15th October 2013, 19:50	#400
sa_kiran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Thane Posts: 515 Thanked: 169 Times	http://moneylife.in/article/aadhaar-...ani/34884.html Aadhaar de-duplication myth busted. Any answers, Mr. Nilekani? One person from Kerala enrolled and successfully received two Aadhaar numbers. This raises serious question over the de-duplication theory and practices of UIDAI.
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18th October 2013, 15:23	#401
Deep Blue BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Udupi Posts: 747 Thanked: 684 Times	Re: Nationwide UID - will it work? Finally my number has arrived, after nearly two and half years of enrolling and complaining everywhere. I got a message from pgportal saying my complaint is resolved. On checking the website, I found my Aadhar number there.Promptly jumped to Aadhar site and generated the e-aadhar. Dont know if pgportal had a role to play as few family members who had not complained to pgportal also got their numbers. I guess a whole block of backlog was cleared recently.
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31st October 2013, 15:58	#402
sa_kiran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Thane Posts: 515 Thanked: 169 Times	Still want to continue with Aadhar?
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3rd December 2013, 20:39	#404
sa_kiran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Thane Posts: 515 Thanked: 169 Times	West Bengal resolution asks Centre to de-link Aadhaar from DBT - http://t.co/OSGmPz2DxH CIA link to Aadhar - http://t.co/3HO6lUhs8O Last edited by sa_kiran : 3rd December 2013 at 20:43.
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