10th February 2012, 11:34 | #31 |
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| Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) Has anyone tried getting on to the expressway to go towards Pune from Kalamboli. The entry road, rather there is no road only craters, to get onto the expressway is in horrible shape. And it has been this way for the last 2 years i guess based on my earlier experience. Isn't this also the responsibility of the authorities maintaining the expressway? |
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10th February 2012, 12:06 | #32 |
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| Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) Our engineers still do not know how to make a road for slow moving heavy vehicles. They always get damaged very soon as they are made. May be they should try 500 mm thick concrete with hardener to make such sections of roads/ truck terminus, bus stations, etc. Maintenance of YCEW by IRB is very shoddy and poor. Not only at Kalamboli it is seen everywhere. 1. They can not even replace the broken sections of Plastic speed breakers at toll plazas. 2. Many places protective railing (Crash barriers) damaged by vehicles are not replaced. 3. Fused light bulbs in Tunnels are not replaced. 4. Worn out Lane markings are not marked. and many other points.. Still they collect toll..more than Rs. 1,50,00,000 every day. |
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10th February 2012, 13:25 | #33 |
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| Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) I think what needs to be done is to share this entire thread with the powers that may be in IRB or government. Some action needs to be taken. We can keep discussing it in the thread till eternity but then what is the outcome? |
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10th February 2012, 14:02 | #34 |
Senior - BHPian | Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) I have lost any hopes of being able to see any kind of transparency or accountability. The recent spate of road repairations are only an eyewash because of the impending elections, IMO. The road from Shil Phata to the Kalamboli circle is riddled with potholes and of late rumbling strips. It looks like every couple of kilometres there's a rumbling strip to slow you down. The road at Shil Phata, as at the Kalamboli entrance to the e-way, have been bad for years. I also tried to lodge a complaint at the IRB toll plaza between Kalamboli and Shil Phata, after being assured that higher officials look into the complaints. Well, no guesses for what has happened. How about I get a VIP number, stick some political party stickers on the front and rear windshields and go about without paying toll? I must have already crossed the price of at least one of my cars in the toll I have paid. |
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10th February 2012, 14:26 | #35 | |
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Let me share this .............. India is the world's largest democratic republic. With the advancement of Transport Systems, countries are identified on the basis of their "Roads". India has difficult road and traffic conditions. In this part of the world, "Roads" are not meant to commute from here to there, but the road themselves run from here to there. Conditions of roads across India are not hidden. In the last 50 years, India's automobile population has grown 170 times while the road infrastructure has expanded only nine times. The country's vehicle population is over 5.5 crore and growing at a phenomenal rate of 25 lakh every year. Roads make up 4% of Kolkatta city as compared to 25% in Delhi and 30% in some other cities. Outside the metros, the main roads and other roads are poorly maintained and congested. The main roads are narrow and in poor conditions, most of them lacking overpasses for intersecting roads. They are used for sleeping, walking and somewhere down the lane serve as "Temporary Shops". Vendors often encroach upon streets and block sidewalks, restricting traffic. In the last 50 years, India's automobile population has grown 170 times while the road infrastructure has expanded only nine times. While roads are widened to allow the increase in vehicle population, side-walks for pedestrians have shrunk. The pedestrian's right of way at zebra-crossings is something of a dream, making "Jay Walking" a common phenomenon. Rightly said by some one "Sehar mai gaddha nahi, Ghaddhe mai shehar hai" | |
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10th February 2012, 14:29 | #36 | |
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11th February 2012, 01:04 | #37 |
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| Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) This is Sad, this expressway is still my dream ride from the very first moment i saw it way back in 2003. I still remember the well lit roads and tunnels and the excellent markings on the road too. I was planning to do this stretch as part of my trip from Bangalore to mumbai sometime in July and still have hopes of doing this, just hope that they carry out some major repair works and yes of course reduce the toll |
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11th February 2012, 07:11 | #38 | |
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Also the authorities don't care is obvious else we would not be discussing it here. My only point was that we continuing our rants only serves the purpose of venting our frustration. Last edited by amitwlele : 11th February 2012 at 07:12. | |
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11th February 2012, 11:16 | #39 | |
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11th February 2012, 18:41 | #40 |
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| Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) Folks i had this question in my mind for a long time. Why is the bridge prone to accidents on the expressway called the Amrutanjan bridge. One person told me that many years ago there used to be a huge neon sign at that place for Amrutanjan balm hence the name. Is that correct? I don't think that sign is there anymore unless i missed it. |
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Senior - BHPian | Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) In the US, traffic rules and their importance is taught from Playschool / kindergarten level itself. The actual driving lessons in high school and subsequent driving tests etc only reinforce what has been ingrained in people's minds since they were 4~6 years old. What we need is education at the right time and reinforcement of that knowledge as time goes by. What the govt. / police can go is to ensure strict implementation of traffic rules, starting with drivers of Police and government vehicles. Quote:
At the point mentioned by you the old highway is beng used as it were. The road designers could neither cut the rock face nor remove the support pillar of the Amrutanjan bridge. Further if the heavy vehicle takes that turn from the left most point then 8 times out of 10 they are un able to take the immediate left turn that follows. This is the reason one sees many a truck stuck next to the rock face on the other side with broken drive shafts or stuck for lack of momentum. Quote:
As for the 'blinkers on in tunnels & rains' in another thread on the forum this absurd driving behaviour was zealously defended. Quote:
Veerji why blame the illiterate villagers who were supposed to have been running the show at these malls. To begin with the tenders were cornered by the local politician/investor mafia and as the years have gone by 'who is who' of the state's big wigs are now benefitting from the operations. You are expected to pay so as to help maintain these bade log's lifestyles. Why this kolaveri saar. Quote:
Aaah at long last the most valid comment on this thread. Kudos n_c Quote:
Another lane ! where? All of the land right alongside the expressway has been sold many times over. Or maybe this was by design and now the same land that should have been reserved for future expansion etc. will be bought back at rates that are exponentially higher than the original rate at which the same land was acquired to begin with. As for the tunnel from Sinhgad to Khopoli, I believe this is a revival of the original road plan that was rejected by the environment ministry. That plan had proposed by passing the original ghat section as well as the Lonavala/Khandala section. If this goes through then we will see the Xpressway's ghat section itself taking off to the right hand side after the Khalapur toll and rejoining the current expressway beyond the Sinhgad institute. The real benefit besides avoiding the merger with the old highway will be that the new gradients will be less steep and easier to negotiate, as was originally planned. Quote:
See my post above on Amrutanjan bridge as well as upkeep of private vehicles. As for bodies akin to NTSB, there is one which exists here in Dilli. The BRT corridors are their brain child and be thankful that the expressway has not caught their eye as yet. Ask people who are enjoying the benefits of the BRT corridor for elaborate details. Quote:
The round round section is the ghat section where two wheelers are allowed. There are two exits to Lonavala and while both are clearly indicated, the first one can take first time users by surprise. However, the second one is on a straight stretch of the road and is well marked at 1.5, 1 and 0,5 km marks. Hope this will help on your next ride. I do wonder though which exit your friend was referring to before the toll, as to the best of my knowledge there is none. The overall signage could do with an overhaul though. Quote:
The laden trailers from the steel yard alongside the Kalamboli ramp and the apathy of IRB are to thank for that stretch. Quote:
Our engineers & for that matter the very same contractors (save for the one who worked from the Poona end) have made some of the best all weather roads all over the globe including the now famous road network in IRAQ. It all depends on the intent with which the infrastructure tenders are floated and awarded. Quote:
What the person told you is absolutely correct. That bridge can be seen in most of the 70s and 80s movies whose story lines include ransom drop off related to kidnapping or scenes involving outraging the modesty of females et all. Quote:
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11th February 2012, 21:16 | #42 |
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| Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) Sir ji, I was more interested in the Khaan Paan section of the said thread other then car speeds, traffic voilations, lane cuttings etc etc ,all these come later.I have faced all these overpriced malls on the Expressway. Last edited by GTO : 13th February 2012 at 14:08. Reason: Please quote ONLY the relevant bits of a post. Quoting an entire long message inconveniences our mobile users |
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12th February 2012, 13:27 | #43 |
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| Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) One rule I follow very strictly is this:- When doing long drives keep varying the speed of the vehicle, with some slow running to allow the tyres to cool (relatively). So after a 15-20 minute dash at 100+, run for the same time @ 80 or less. On concrete roads you have to be doubly careful as the tyres heat up more easily. Unless you have atleast 60% headroom in terms of tyre rating ( speed rating) you can be setting yourself up for some serious trouble due to tyre burst. |
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12th February 2012, 18:40 | #44 |
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| Re: Review of the Yashwantrao Chavan Expressway (Mumbai-Pune) SAD but true!! The very purpose the Expressway was constructed has been lost!!! At times it’s like the old days!! . and don't forget the Shivneris (MSRTC VOLVOs) and the Cool Cabs!! At the rate the volume of traffic is increasing another couple of lanes will be needed soon!! |
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Driving at 120 is certainly not unsafe. If the speed limit were set at 120 kmph, and strict monitoring through speed cameras (including average speed cameras) were enforced, it would become a lot safer. At an 80 kmph speed limit, almost no-one, except idiot truck drivers with overloaded trucks stays below the limit. Further, what makes roads dangerous is speed differentials between vehicles. In the early days, we did not have truck traffic on the expressway as the alternate road was free. But we now have a much larger number of trucks using the expressway, and unfortunately, a number of them drive as slowly at 50-60 kmph, which in a road designed for 120 kmph speeds is as dangerous as driving at 160 kmph. Also its over a decade since this road was built, and in an economy growing at 8% p.a., not adding capacity in such a long time is clearly unacceptable. So we have two choices - either widen this expressway or build a new one (this time not bothering about squirrels in the ghats). Slightly OT but the point on stupid traffic rules goes beyond the expressway. The JJ flyover had a 60 kmph limit, which was dropped to 30 kmph for no good reason. The rules on mobile phones are also insane; requiring people to keep the phone OFF when in a car. Unreasonable rules lead to a lack of respect for the law. But perhaps they are by design - so that cops have the ability to extract bribes whenever they feel like doing so | |
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