Crashed Ford Ikon

Godfather · 3rd April 2006, 01:31

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Originally Posted by buzzin_hornets

hey guys..sorry for the misleading title..but it did grab ur attention, didnt it??? .. as busa said i saw it at four seasons..didnt get ne info abt it.. i will get some info once i go there again on tuesday..

~cheers + drive safely guys..this was jus another reminder!
-Ash

waiting for the info here.. i really wanna know how this happened..

buzzin_hornets · 1st May 2006, 16:34

hey sorry guys, i havent got the info yet cuz i havent gone back to 4 seasons..

SkiN46 · 6th May 2006, 15:25

i kno the guy hu's car it is...a frnds frnd....not sure wat happened.... i'll ask

autozealot · 6th May 2006, 15:39

Oh, thats really bad.... I dont know if anyone has noticed, but its the Ikon which is involved in majorityof such accidents. Cant really figure out why. Is it that its got too much power or lack of braking ability (which I doubt very much) or just something unexplained

!!!
Or sheerly co-incidence???

Rehaan · 7th May 2006, 10:15

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Originally Posted by autozealot

Is it that its got too much power or lack of braking ability (which I doubt very much)

Hey autozealot,

So you i can figure that you have never driven an ikon!

The ikon has the WORST brakes. Really terrible.

cya
R

nitinhegde · 7th May 2006, 10:22

Don't scare me,I have recently bought an Ikon Flair..
anyway,I don't drive at such high speeds..so,I hope it won't be a problem for me...
Can you elaborate what you mean by bad brakes ? what exactly is wrong ??
One thing I must mention is that FORD Ikon sells like crazy...In Pune , I can see many many FORD IKON's on the road....

nitinhegde · 7th May 2006, 10:27

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Originally Posted by autozealot

Oh, thats really bad.... I dont know if anyone has noticed, but its the Ikon which is involved in majorityof such accidents. Cant really figure out why. Is it that its got too much power or lack of braking ability (which I doubt very much) or just something unexplained

!!!
Or sheerly co-incidence???

I think there are many such vehicles which are involved in such accidents ! The FORD got hyped due to one such previous accident...
I have to defend as I recently purchased a FORD Ikon

sjcherian · 7th May 2006, 10:41

I have an Ikon 1.6 and my thoughts are that its braking distance may not be all that great but the main thing is that the driver needs to know the limits of the car and their own driving abilities. Never push those limits under the influence of drugs/alcohol or on roads that have a whole bunch of traffic or construction going on. Its not just an Ikon that will crash but any car even the most "safe" cars in the world can have a fatal crash if there is a moron behind the wheel who doesnt know what the limits of the car are, or who is DUI.

I have been able to get out of several situations where I had to panic stop (vehicles jumping out of side roads/stopping suddenly without brake lites and lots more) ...maintaining a manageable speed and being alert was all that was required ... the brakes are more than adequate then. One cannot expect to be doing triple digit speeds and be able to stop within a couple of feet ....one has to account for 150-200 feet of distance in front of the car to be able to stop safely. Dont over speed when there are other vehicles on the road ...staying within the speed limits for cities and highways ! And of course enjoy the power of the Ikon responsibly :-).

nitinhegde · 7th May 2006, 11:05

sjcherian , Very well Said.......

I would rather say that relying blindly on the brakes and doing very high speeds without anticipation is dangerous....and could lead to such fatal accidents...Better Late than Never !

Rehaan · 7th May 2006, 12:48

Nitinhedge,

Firstly, i should have clarified that i was only mentioning about the ikons brakes, and not agreeing with the theory of "more ikons crash than anything else".

Secondly, the ikons i speak of were the first "generation", before the nxt and the flair etc.
The brakes were bad in the sense that it felt just like brake fade even when the car hadnt been pushed much.
I have been trying to find out if this problem was fixed, or if there were any changes to the braking system in the flair etc but have not come across any concrete information.

Drive safe and drive smart, and its shouldnt be a problem.
cya
R

autozealot · 7th May 2006, 12:56

Braking is only a part of the discussion. All said and done, its the driver who should know the capabilities of a machine.

Never stretch your luck too far.

Dragonov · 8th May 2006, 16:08

In most of the situations, presence of mind and skill should be able enough to get one out of a tough ask...! All I am trying to say is that the Ikon has a decent set up of brakes. I really havent come across any situation with 25000 Kms of city / highway driving. If possible, try to use engine braking whenever in a tight spot.. it surely does help !

nitinhegde · 8th May 2006, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rehaan

Nitinhedge,

The brakes were bad in the sense that it felt just like brake fade even when the car hadnt been pushed much.
I

Thanks Rehaan for clarifying...but I am not really getting you...Can you elaborate - what you mean by the Brakes fade even when the car hadnt been pushed much?

1st May 2006, 16:34	#17
buzzin_hornets BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 236 Thanked: Once View My Garage	hey sorry guys, i havent got the info yet cuz i havent gone back to 4 seasons..
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6th May 2006, 15:25	#18
SkiN46 BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Times	i kno the guy hu's car it is...a frnds frnd....not sure wat happened.... i'll ask
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6th May 2006, 15:39	#19
autozealot BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 204 Thanked: 12 Times	Oh, thats really bad.... I dont know if anyone has noticed, but its the Ikon which is involved in majorityof such accidents. Cant really figure out why. Is it that its got too much power or lack of braking ability (which I doubt very much) or just something unexplained !!! Or sheerly co-incidence???
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7th May 2006, 10:22	#21
nitinhegde BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ~ Posts: 242 Thanked: 91 Times	Don't scare me,I have recently bought an Ikon Flair.. anyway,I don't drive at such high speeds..so,I hope it won't be a problem for me... Can you elaborate what you mean by bad brakes ? what exactly is wrong ?? One thing I must mention is that FORD Ikon sells like crazy...In Pune , I can see many many FORD IKON's on the road....
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7th May 2006, 10:41	#23
sjcherian BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 493 Thanked: 585 Times	I have an Ikon 1.6 and my thoughts are that its braking distance may not be all that great but the main thing is that the driver needs to know the limits of the car and their own driving abilities. Never push those limits under the influence of drugs/alcohol or on roads that have a whole bunch of traffic or construction going on. Its not just an Ikon that will crash but any car even the most "safe" cars in the world can have a fatal crash if there is a moron behind the wheel who doesnt know what the limits of the car are, or who is DUI. I have been able to get out of several situations where I had to panic stop (vehicles jumping out of side roads/stopping suddenly without brake lites and lots more) ...maintaining a manageable speed and being alert was all that was required ... the brakes are more than adequate then. One cannot expect to be doing triple digit speeds and be able to stop within a couple of feet ....one has to account for 150-200 feet of distance in front of the car to be able to stop safely. Dont over speed when there are other vehicles on the road ...staying within the speed limits for cities and highways ! And of course enjoy the power of the Ikon responsibly :-).
	() Thanks

7th May 2006, 11:05	#24
nitinhegde BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: ~ Posts: 242 Thanked: 91 Times	sjcherian , Very well Said....... I would rather say that relying blindly on the brakes and doing very high speeds without anticipation is dangerous....and could lead to such fatal accidents...Better Late than Never !
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7th May 2006, 12:48	#25
Rehaan Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 24,046 Thanked: 34,076 Times	Nitinhedge, Firstly, i should have clarified that i was only mentioning about the ikons brakes, and not agreeing with the theory of "more ikons crash than anything else". Secondly, the ikons i speak of were the first "generation", before the nxt and the flair etc. The brakes were bad in the sense that it felt just like brake fade even when the car hadnt been pushed much. I have been trying to find out if this problem was fixed, or if there were any changes to the braking system in the flair etc but have not come across any concrete information. Drive safe and drive smart, and its shouldnt be a problem. cya R
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7th May 2006, 12:56	#26
autozealot BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 204 Thanked: 12 Times	Braking is only a part of the discussion. All said and done, its the driver who should know the capabilities of a machine. Never stretch your luck too far.
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8th May 2006, 16:08	#27
Dragonov BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 205 Thanked: 31 Times	In most of the situations, presence of mind and skill should be able enough to get one out of a tough ask...! All I am trying to say is that the Ikon has a decent set up of brakes. I really havent come across any situation with 25000 Kms of city / highway driving. If possible, try to use engine braking whenever in a tight spot.. it surely does help !
	() Thanks