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19th August 2014, 17:03 | #16 |
Senior - BHPian | re: My Figo's first accident. Rear-ended an Alto Step up, thanks for sharing your experience and glad no one got hurt. I am glad that you have learnt from your mistake and realize how bad it could have been. Thank your lucky stars for that. I understand that you would have been in a position where even though you agreed to your fault, the comments and the attitude of the other parties disgusted you. However, put yourself in your shoes, how would you react if you were just driving quietly and someone smashed into you. Not a pleasant feeling, so dont be upset. Different people react differently and as we are all car lovers, we can understand how much even a scratch hurts, your fault or not. Regarding the insurance part, i dont understand why others would lose their no claim bonus (though i am sure there is some fine print we cant avoid). I thought your insurance should cover the entire cost of their repairs, you being the main driver for the accident. Or if other parties claim their own insurance, they should get your insurance to pay for theirs. Not an insurance expert so would like to know from other experts in this field. |
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19th August 2014, 17:35 | #17 |
Senior - BHPian | re: My Figo's first accident. Rear-ended an Alto You take your eyes off the road and bang into the car in front, which in turn hits the car in front of it. Two cars suffer damage due to your negligence and then you go about calling them morons and stuff. For no fault of theirs (and all fault of yours) why should they lose their NCB ? Beats me. The only lesson for you should be to keep your eyes on the road, instead of staring at billboards. |
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Since the above incident has happened due to you and your friend who did show you a hoarding on the highway and to see it you lift your eyes off the road causing damage to others property and you call them "not nice people!" How convenient. Be happy that you were spoken to in normal tone and not mishandled by the locals out there. Quote:
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19th August 2014, 19:21 | #19 | |
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Here all the parties settled for out-of-court settlement wherein everyone agreed to use their own insurance (under own damage claim). Hence the other guys stand to lose their NCBs. | |
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19th August 2014, 19:38 | #20 |
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| re: My Figo's first accident. Rear-ended an Alto Boss, you rear end another car with such a force that it damages even the next car, you refuse to pay their NCB (it's none of your business how many times they have been in accident, their past accidents did not dictate your today's actions), you call their families names such as morons and all, and yet give free advice that don't buy Maruti cars? I mean, are you sure there was no brain damage to ANY party involved? First, thank all the Gods you may believe in that there was no person crossing the street, because sure as hell your super tough figo would have killed or severely injured the person and you would be writing a whole different post. Second, there was nothing wrong in demanding NCBs because of your rear ending their car. Lucky you that it was not a scorpio chap, else NCBs would be the least of your problems. Third, after getting a bill of Rs.80,000 on Figo, why are Maruti cars still bad? Because they got damaged in rear ending? Posts like these really scare me for driving/riding in Pune. It's not the accidents, it's the attitude of the perpetrator that worries me. Hope the damn Metro starts soon. |
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So by your logic every demand is justified. As I should arrange for an alternate vehicle for both of them. Pay them towards the mental agony and inconvenience etc? I think no one deliberately causes accidents. They happen by mistake only. And to err is human. You can't drive on the road saying I can't take risk of damaging my car and everything should be compensated. Quote:
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I was angry about the lie. I was angry about the fact that I was alone there accepting my fault and these people were calling up their people and connections with police to pressurize me. And even an FIR was registered I needn't have to pay anything. My insurance company has to pay. I was stunned to see the damages caused to Alto and Dzire at such less speed. Shows the thickness/strength of the materials used from safety point of view. Engine oil leakage for a rear ending at a speed of 50 km/hr? Quote:
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19th August 2014, 20:05 | #22 | |
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You're joking, right? Anyway, it's best to accept a mistake happened and let it lie. Maybe the alto realised he added to the value chain by banging into the dzire and baked his profit margins into the quote submitted to you? | |
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19th August 2014, 20:58 | #23 | |
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I mentioned lawyer and police coz in that case, you would have been subject to correct legal proceedings and there would have been a few more 'lessons learnt' in that opening post. Don't know what else you deduced to state that corollary. | |
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19th August 2014, 21:01 | #24 | |
Team-BHP Support | re: My Figo's first accident. Rear-ended an Alto First, calm down & welcome to Team-BHP. You have made a brave start here. While acknowledging one's mistake is good, you have to understand what others are trying to say. Quote:
If you were in their shoes, you just might have reacted the same, a bit better or worse. We are humans after all. And why should someone pay out of their insurance to pay for someone else's fault? Would you? Please drive carefully from next time. And while driving, we take a casual glance at something interesting, but not for long to not notice traffic. I am sure the billboard must be interesting for your friend to ask you to look at it while driving and for you to stare at it for enough time to cause the accident. Whatever has happened, is past. Move on | |
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19th August 2014, 21:20 | #25 |
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| re: My Figo's first accident. Rear-ended an Alto @StepUp! Enough has been discussed on NCB thing. NCB is just another benefit we get. It is a KEY benefit. You can search T-BHP about NCB and how much one can save. Alto's case might be different. But in general, if i was the Alto guy and didnt had any claims in that year, I would definitely ask for NCB as well or ask your insurance provider to fix my car's damages. That is THE RIGHT option here. |
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19th August 2014, 21:26 | #26 |
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| re: My Figo's first accident. Rear-ended an Alto This is similar to what I faced recently. I managed to crash into a parked Santro near my home difference being I wasn't watching a billboard but was talking to my dad in rear sit with medical condition. My car managed to get bumper completely spoilt, one headlight broken and edge of bonnet dented. Santro was in real bad shape. In any case, I told the owner point blank that it was my mistake and I would cover everything. The friendly face was managing his car without insurance. Hence I did not opt for a police case as my insurance company would have denied 3rd party liability and he would have been rounded by police as well. I left my car there, took dad for some clinical investigations. On returning took the matter further with insurance company. ALso I read the policy wordings quite carefully. The third party property damage liability is limited at 6000 Rs anyways. My policy wasn't zero Dep. My own damages were 9000 Rs. I talked to the workshop where the affected car was. We mutually agreed repairs procedure and I ended up shelling out quite a sum. All in all I happy that I didn't stoopdown for some money and I saved my face in the neighbourhood. Your lessons learnt were quite relevent to my case. Hope no one has to undergo similar incidence in future. I support your anger against the NCB loss compensation. The guy having claimed in that year had lost NCB anyways. Hence encashing the NCB loss from you actually was taking undue advantage. I was surprised by the repairs quotes though your financial damages were only 2000 bucks. My Maruti had exactly similar repairs but total cost was 23000 only against 80000 of yours. I was a staunch critic of SAI service and Maruti Service Costs recently. I need to rethink. Moreover somewhere I had EcoSport on mind. Need to reassess. |
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19th August 2014, 21:41 | #27 |
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| re: My Figo's first accident. Rear-ended an Alto StepUp Before you call people names - introspect on what you did which screwed their happiness. You mentioned that you have compensated them, think about the resale loss when they have to sell their cars which would be tagged as accident cars - who would compensate on these items. Regarding NCB - your comments are naive, please educate yourself on how NCB works Also if the other 2 folks were rigid they could have made you life hell by filling an FIR and you had to go rounds around our courts. |
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I am surprised to get such wordings from a fellow BHPinan. I am offended. Anyways; "it's none of your business how many times they have been in accident, their past accidents did not dictate your today's actions" of course it's my business as I am shelling out money from my pocket and I don't want to pay unnecessarily. you call their families names such as morons and all" Well I have explained my reasons earlier. "yet give free advice that don't buy Maruti cars?" Excuse me but when did I advice not to buy Maruti cars? I opined on something and gave "MY" leanings. From where this advice thing came in? I don't want to take hypothetical cases like what if he was Scorpio guy; someone got injured etc. Even I can present many. About getting 80000 bill on Figo, Ford's spare parts are expensive; every possible part was replaced which could have been easily repaired. I am sure it wouldn't have costed more than Rs 10000 to fix it in an outside garage. Also, people getting touchy about NCB scares me. Quote:
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19th August 2014, 22:17 | #30 |
Senior - BHPian | re: My Figo's first accident. Rear-ended an Alto For no fault of those two guys, you messed up their cars and their happiness! And you expect them to lose their NCBs? Ridiculous. I've been banged very often on my Fiesta's rear, but most of them have only left a small imprint on the bumper. I left those morons off only after reprimanding them. So I empathize with the Alto and Dzire guys completely. A friend of mine had a 10-year old Alto with zero insurance claims. He was planning to upgrade for a Honda City, and was entitled to a 50% discount on the premium for the new car, which was nearly 10K. But the poor guy was rear-ended that very week, and he had to lose his NCB because of no fault of his. Owing to the above, you need to own up and understand why people do not want to lose their NCBs. It is good of you to own up your mistake, but some observations of yours on the other two do not seem to be correct. |
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