Re: Driving Licence confiscated for violating 'No Parking' zone Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai You are confusing between Karnataka RTO and BTP. The road tax extortion is conducted by Karnataka RTO, not BTP. Not only this is offtopic, you are barking up the wrong tree. |
Hey Samurai San, I know they are different. I was just mentioning two state institutions related to motor vehicles implementing pathetic rules out of the blue. Quote:
Originally Posted by shoaib3030
And as for the gentleman in the previous posts comparing our policemen as Taliban and this is just a money making gimmick ? That's not so pleasing to hear. Even though it doesn't seem like it but these guys work hard at their jobs and it really takes your stress to a whole new level.
At the end of the day, obey the law. |
That gentleman would be me and I stand by it. They work hard no doubt, they go through a lot of stress agreed, but 'WE' go through a lot of stress because of them too. How can someone threaten you to cancel your licence for a non moving offence ? What do you call this ?
If my kid fails in a subject during exam, I make him work harder or remove him from school for X duration of time ?
I stand my money making gimmick statement too. Cops will make money out of this, by bribe or by adding false charges. To support my statement 'Lane Discipline' was listed as one of the offence. How is that ? Mumbai Traffic Police used to do this earlier too, add dangerous driving offence to whatever receipt they made. Quote:
Originally Posted by ant_vas Its surprising to see people who are not staying in bangalore commenting about the BTP and comparing them to outfits like taliban.
My dear sir, please come and stay in bangalore and experience the traffic indiscipline your self. You will realize that with inadequate infrastructure and limited manpower the bangalore traffic police force is indeed doing a better job. Almost all traffic offenses are recorded in the blackberry and receipt will be issued on the spot. They even send notices to your home thru post which you can clear at a bangalore one center/website as well.
Coming to this case of guna, the parking offense is a second one as per him, he also had another offense of changing lanes or something like that. I hope he gets the DL back and this incident will be a deterrent not just for him but for others including me!
And if my memory serves me correctly back in 2004 or 2005 i was caught by a traffic constable and inspector duo twice for coming in opposite direction of traffic. This was at Udupi garden signal and i was coming to the junction from 16th main side. Back then the road divider was small and a lot of bikers would take the right lane when the signal turned green. For my luck twice as i reached the junction, the light would turn red and i would have to stop as traffic from other lane would start moving. i paid 100 for first time and 300 for the second time. and was told by the inspector that 3rd strike and my license would be sent for cancellation. as i have the license issued from madhya pradesh, i up on asking about that he said we will send it to MP RTO for cancellation! So if the rule existed back then, am not surprised that they want to use it more stringently these days.
More recently the BTP have got the rules tweaked with such stricter measures to deter the aam junta from violating the traffic rules. Why even BTP folks have gone in plain cloths and had hundreds of autorickshaw's taken to task. They were fined and ceased from morning 6 to night 10, Not once but twice. If the BTP were really interested in filling their own pockets i don't think such drives would take place. |
I have stayed in Bangalore for 3 years, keep visiting it every month and can speak fluent Kannada as much as a local can. Bangalore is not in Siberia you know, anyone from Mumbai can just hop skip and jump to Bangalore.
Secondly, about good 'intention' of BTP. Good intentions come with spreading the word about new rule through every media possible, give people time to change and then start fining them. Making examples of people is what dictators do, not well wishers. A simple google search does not show these new rules too. I still stand by my point. Quote:
Originally Posted by Samurai We are not disputing the violation. We are disputing the punishment.
I believe that punishment should match the crime. There are countries where mere blasphemy attracts death sentence. We are not one of those countries, and shouldn't even start going in that direction.
It is beyond dispute that a moving violation is more serious than non-moving violation. If DL is cancelled for a non-moving violation, what are they going to do for moving violation?
Put yourself in the shoes of the violator. Say you were caught doing 51kmph in 50kmph zone. Should they merely cancel your DL, or impound the car along with cancellation of DL? |
+ 100 to this. Quote:
Originally Posted by BeantownThinker I am of the belief that from time to time examples need to be made in order to deter people from violating the rules.
Many here are of the opinion that the punishment does not fit the crime for a first time offence. How many of us can honestly say, hand on heart, that this was the first offence? This was probably the first offence of the person for which he was caught! What of all the times when rules were violated and the offender was not caught? Why is there no outrage from the offender for that?
BTP knows that it is pain to get anything done at the RTO offices most of the times and making you undergo that pain for a violation is their idea of punishing the offenders.
Some have called this action draconian. All I can say is that making you spend time and money is not draconian. Being locked up overnight at the station IS draconian, which the cops have NOT done.
Over 11,000 people have viewed this thread and I am sure many would think twice before parking in a "No Parking" zone.
Kudos to BTP for having taken this step. |
Mental torture is not draconian , but being locked up overnight in a jail is draconian? We are not thugs you know.
About making examples, You are just saying it because 'you were not that example'.
Lastly, Mumbai has one of the most well mannered traffic in the country, do we have such rules ?
Lastly, as we are being this strict with the drivers, are we being this strict with the bribe takers too?
Last edited by humyum : 11th December 2014 at 16:49.
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