[MT_Hyderabad]

Originally Posted by Turbanator

OP should sometime come to North, this is nothing. I will say this guy at least took his hand out and asked you to give him space. What if he had an actual emergency? I know, it's not right but what if?

You misunderstood the hand signal. It is other way of saying Abay Ruk!
It is not requesting for way or asking, it is forcing!

It is used widely in police cars who are escorting some VIPs here.

I was born in Delhi and am fully aware of the situation there, have driven 1 lakh kilometers there before coming to Hyderabad 13 years ago.

This incident would not have gone unpunished in Delhi and either this guy would not do it again or I will not intercept any such car again. But there will be settlement and realisation on one side at least. This is why I find drivers in Delhi more civilised with regard to lane change, as they never know who is on the other side and they can get into trouble or have got into trouble in the past. In Hyderabad, there is no concept of lanes. Traffic police has made no effort to educate commuters in this regards either. In Delhi, you will see signs depicting lane concept on the roads. None here.

Regarding emergency, this guy has many overspeeding tickets. I am worried for him now, as he gets into emergency quite often.

[three10]

Option 5:

Gift him another challan. Your dashcam footage has the location, date/time and the number of the offending car. Tweet out to Hyd traffic police with the video / screenshots and they’ll generate another one.

[YashOjha15]

Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad

I was involved with an incident with a driver who sped off after the near miss.

I had his number on my dashcam and did search for the owner on the e-challan website of Telangana. He already had a few challans to his name and not to my surprise, was challaned for overspeeding (at 147 km/hr) a few minutes after the incident with me.
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Slightly off topic
But how do you search for the owner on the e-challan website?

[MT_Hyderabad]

Originally Posted by YashOjha15

Slightly off topic
But how do you search for the owner on the e-challan website?

It's simple. Just type in the Registration number on the website and if you are lucky (car has some pending challans), you will find the owner details along with the Challan details. Please see the owner's name on the screenshot I shared in the first post.

@all

The purpose of the thread is not about this incident. I could have posted this on Near miss thread and discussed it there.

I would be happy to know how you tracked some offender if you did. Some screenshots, images of your search etc. will be interesting.

[YashOjha15]

Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad

It's simple. Just type in the Registration number on the website and if you are lucky (car has some pending challans), you will find the owner details along with the Challan details.

Telengana Police has but I guess Tamilnadu Police doesn't have this feature of searching the owner details.

[adwaith]

Originally Posted by YashOjha15

Telengana Police has but I guess Tamilnadu Police doesn't have this feature of searching the owner details.

There actually is. While the mParivahan app shows you only alternate letters of the names of vehicle owners, there are apps on the play store which show all details and purportedly challans too.

[m8002?]

This kind of behavior is quite common in most of the toll booths especially when they are crowded. Just that in this case, he still did it even though it was free and he gained a grand total of 2 seconds.

I have encountered cases where there will be a line of 10, 20 vehicles in the lane and this guy just drives to the front between the two lanes and then tries to force his way in at the front.

[ShortShifter]

Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad

I was involved with an incident with a driver who sped off after the near miss.

Welcome to Hyderabad, where 3 out of 5 car drivers, 4 out of 5 bike riders, 5 out of 5 Autowallahs/RTC bus drivers indulge in such rash driving, traffic violations with a false sense of achievement or pride every single day. No I am not exaggerating a bit.

Its a systemic breakdown, since majority of people barring the honest citizen for sure have never attended a driving test! Neither have they educated themselves about the traffic rules nor learnt to exhibit some patience/empathy towards fellow road users, just rev up the engines and off we go. Even the law can't catch up with them because the traffic cops are busy photographing stop line violations, free lefts or implement drunk & drive ignoring rest of the violations. This I feel is the reason why people in our city and across India continue to violate traffic norms with impunity.

[corvus corax]

If my understanding is correct the OP has exploited a design flaw in that website which was intended for motor users to look up their own penalities? If that is the case he has misused the TS e - challan website and posted someone's personal information here and I request mods to take those screen shots down.

[ritedhawan]

I would like to state that the incident which actuated the originator of the thread to bring it to our attention is not a one-off incident. I have seen my share of such incidents in which a reckless driver, his adrenaline pumping, when comes across toll plazas tries to jump the queue and tries to make his way before anyone else to the angst of the rest who watch him go past.

This may not be the cardinal sin he may have committed in my eyes--even though this statement requires qualification. According to me, the cardinal sin that he committed is 'Rash driving' , 'over-speeding' which he continued to exhibit not only before he reached the toll plaza but continues to exhibit the same once he is past the toll plaza.

It is the 'rash driving’, 'over-speeding', 'reckless driving' which are a threat not only to himself but to those around him. This is a fundamental point. Then the question arises: 'Whether he\she should be allowed to continue in the same manner?’. ‘Whether he\she should be allowed to be a threat to others?'

While we seek solace in our heart that someday this person will meet his end in an accident. I think by the time that person meets his end he\she would have caused more than one accident in which someone who may not have been part of 'rash driving', etc. would either been amputated or have lost a limb thanks to the authorities allowing the culprit to live another day.

The rate at which our highways are being transformed into six lanes or eight lanes. Providing enough road width and length for these people to satiate their adrenaline rush. The puny engines under the hood of many of cars which may or may not be turbo-charged carry enough punch to reach 100 miles per hour (160 km\hr) given time.

It's about time the authorities need to take a page out of the way the United States of America deals with such culprits:

(1) Set up a contingent that is trained to commandeer cruisers or customised vehicles which can actively chase, pursue the culprits, and pin them down before they live another day. If they want to live another day. Well, better behind bars than on open roads.
(2) Have such cruiser’s take overwatch positions in many of our highways waiting to for such culprits to show up and actively pursue them.
(3) The enforcement should not discriminate between people in the upper echelons of power and those at the other end of the scale. A culprit is a culprit irrespective of his position.
(4) The customized vehicles should be equipped or fortified in such a manner to act as battering rams if the need arises to take out the culprit vehicle.

I know bringing up the above points is going to be to the utter amazement of many of our fellow team-BHpians. They may scoff at it and wave it off as something that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future.
I understand the obstacles, reluctance that our authorities may exhibit and may even denigrate these points and many other such points as too harsh or draconian.

But then is it far from truth, that the rate at which the number of such culprits continue to rise! That they continue to exhibit such 'rash-driving', 'over-speeding' and know that they can get away with it. That they exhibit their exploits on platforms like YouTube for all and sundry to take inspiration from them.

Unless the authorities equate 'rash driving', 'reckless driving', 'over speeding' to a life-threatening crime. Unless they consider it a crime equivalent to attempt to murder. They will continue to underestimate it. By the time most of our highways would have changed to six or eight lanes and the proportionate increase in the number of such culprits, too many to bring them down. That would be a rude awakening to the authorities.

A video is in order: (innumerable ones are available on YouTube)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65WiYLJXhHI&t=820s

[MT_Hyderabad]

Originally Posted by corvus corax

If my understanding is correct the OP has exploited a design flaw in that website which was intended for motor users to look up their own penalities? If that is the case he has misused the TS e - challan website and posted someone's personal information here and I request mods to take those screen shots down.

Some prelude: I was of the opinion that we should not divulge defaulters details on public forum and I shared my opinion on this thread :
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/stree...nroofs-11.html (Dangerous Trend : Kids standing & sticking out of Sunroofs!)

Please see post 156 onwards. You will be surprised, I am still barred from accessing this thread as I was defending my opinion too much, which I agree

Your point of using a system flaw is incorrect. This is by design. Telangana Govt. publishes the challans on a common for all website. I can check any Telangana registered car's challan. Even the Chief Ministers car for that matter. TS police also shares dangerous driving, accident videos etc publicly. Just an hour back, they have published a video of an accident involving Thar and we are discussing the same in the Accidents in India thread.

[true_sedan]

Originally Posted by MT_Hyderabad

Question is, how do you track such hooligans? Or do you invest your time on tracking such hooligans?

This is quite a common feeling in India. But it’s near impossible to take any action or register a complaint without an accident happening first. Each policeman in our country have their own theory of what’s right and wrong and he or she decides to register an FIR based on that. And I would highly suggest you to not take any action without law enforcement support. It’s highly dangerous to approach these hooligans on your own without knowing anything about them. These guys may have nothing to loose but you on the other hand have lost mental peace already. So be at peace. Just imagine the guys in the car as illiterate morons. Makes life easier.

[neerajku]

Each according to his or her views or needs. Yes One part of the brain says, punish them, they must get punishment for the infraction. Our sense of justice and FairPlay and the need to see justice done. Another part says let is be. They won't learn, most such are recidivists. I would fall into the later. Too many of them for us to do anything.

[MT_Hyderabad]

Originally Posted by ritedhawan

By the time most of our highways would have changed to six or eight lanes and the proportionate increase in the number of such culprits

You had made the best point on this thread as per me. Although expressways like these have guarded exits, but a fleeing criminal (in any car) can wreck havoc on such roads as police themselves do not have the machinery to fight him off.
There is an urgent need to develop capability to intercept the extreme defaulters in the act rather than sending overspeeding tickets few hours later.

I think we are waiting for something big to happen after which such measures will be thought about.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by bhphog

While I do understand that the culture of 'value of my time > value of anyone else's time' is pathetic, but going as far as saying that someone should be jailed for something that OP mentioned is totally and completely unwarranted.

With no offence to anyone, if we start prosecuting for lane bullying, we would be left with almost to nil drivers on road.

Well said. As the saying goes "when you can't change the world around you, change yourself". Rash drivers are omnipresent on Indian roads & I think this is an over-reaction to a lane cutting manoeuvre. Practice meditation so such drivers don't get under your skin .

@ OP, chill, brother. Don't let a random stranger ruin your mood or waste your time (in tracking him and otherwise). There was anyway no contact, so just let it be.