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Originally Posted by rippergeo SB- I think you over corrected during your initial lane change maneuver.... |
I think so too and the speed added to the problem.
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Originally Posted by DriverR SB, glad to hear that you came out of this safe and wiser. I was surprised to hear you narate this as I have found you to be one of the sane and stable people on this forum. |
Thanks. I do try to be a sane person (if not always, atleast most of the time). But then, "To err is human", ain't it ?
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Originally Posted by DriverR (Guys, just my two cents, but SB made a mistake and has emerged out of it wiser and more mature. No use berating him for his mistake. It serves no purpose) |
I have no issues with people who point out my error. As some of them said, they have had cases where they lost loved ones in similar situations. So I can understand where they are coming from. And frankly, I have been on the forum long enough to expect what kind of reactions to expect while posting this here.
My issue is only with people thinking that this is about glorifying hi-speed driving on city roads. It is not - my post is pretty clear on that. I just pointed out something which happened to me that I was not expecting. It could even happen at much lesser speeds too and if someone sees the implications and it helps them, the thread would have served its purpose.
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AWARENESS / COMMON SENSE is a rare commodity here. What we need is an education system where they teach us stuff like .... "Why should i brake and pass when i can swerve and flick?", ........ Sorry, i've given up on this country.
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Seems like the fallout of this thread is seen in other threads. Did not want to go OT on that thread, so posting it here.
Agree that in my case, a brake-and-pass would have been the best move, while the swerve-and-flick turned out to be a wrong decision. But, given the kind of roads we have, have we never done sudden swerve-and-flick in normal city driving ? Say you are driving at the normal city speeds and out-of-the-blue, you see a pothole big enough to cause damage. Would you still brake or swerve ? I am sure many of us would swerve - its instinctive. And if there is a biker riding alongside you, you could end up swiping him.
I swerved once to avoid a pothole in my M800 resulting in a brief buckling of the car - nowhere near what I experienced on Friday, but still a bit unsettling. Was doing about 50kmph only.
I am sure there would be guys who would still say that they would brake in such situations. Fine. But what about the guy behind you, who is not expecting you to brake unexpectedly and rear-ends you. Happened to me a few months ago.
I am on Sterling Road (relatively good road in Chennai), morning rush hour traffic, speeds being 30kmph or so and suddenly the 3rd car ahead of me brakes due to a pothole that appeared overnight. The Palio behind it brakes in time and so does the Esteem behind. I also brake inches away from the Esteem. I hear a sudden thud behind me - an M800 has rammed into my rear and a biker has rammed into it.
I ask the driver of the M800 (a lady) why she did not brake. She shrugs and asks me, "Why did that guy brake all of a sudden ?" I am like, "He could have braked for whatever reason, but why were you not able to do the same, when 3 of us behind him could ? " She has no answer. A swerve in this case could have saved me a broken bumper. At the same time, it could have even resulted in hitting some innocent riding in the side lane.
Driving is about a lot of things - the car, the driver, the road, other drivers, lighting, road rules etc etc. And the challenge is to take the best decision, while keeping all these factors into consideration. And sometimes the decision you take could end up being the wrong one. Happened to me and I am sure it can happen to anyone, even in normal circumstances.
Just isolating the speed of the vehicle as a culprit is not right. The bikers you see flitting in-and-out of traffic might be doing less than 40kmph (and legally within the speed limit), but would be the rashest due to the other rules they break. On the other hand a car guy doing a steady 60kmph on the fast lane in the city, is breaking the speed limit, but could be driving sanely and in control. Just to point out that you could speed without being rash, just as much as you could be rash without speeding.