Run In : Really?

humyum · 14th December 2007, 20:20

We should always take the delivery from the stock yard and get all the RTO stuff sorted out with us driving.
Doing this to our brand new cars is just not done

wolfinstein · 14th December 2007, 20:35

Never sent the XETA to the RTO, and the only time after the CNG install which is mandatory-Driven by my dad.

viper · 14th December 2007, 20:41

Hi,

Maybe a bit OT but how many of you guys actually believe the Odometer reading of your new car. Most dealers remove the Speedo cable/speed sensor till before PDI and give you the car showing xyz kms. This is a common practice amongst most dealers.

Viper

CrAzY dRiVeR · 14th December 2007, 20:51

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Originally Posted by viper

Most dealers remove the Speedo cable/speed sensor till before PDI and give you the car showing xyz kms.

Most of them even give customer cars for TDs!

I recently got to drive i10. TD car was away, so they have us one from the new batch they got, which was to be delivered later!

Shan2nu · 14th December 2007, 21:04

It's common. Before we picked up the Innova, i test drove the Hyundai Tucson which still had those white stickers they use to prevent scrathes on new cars.

That car, was supposed to be delivered to some guy in Hubli the next day, and it had just travelled 410kms from Blore. I casually asked the driver how the roads were.

He told me the roads were bad but he still managed to get it in around 4hrs....which adds up to an average speed of 102kmph!!! You have to drive like an absolute maniac to cover 410kms in 4hrs, especially on that stretch of the NH4.

The best i've done is 5hrs 15mins on the Vtec. LOL

Shan2nu

PatienceWins · 14th December 2007, 21:14

These dealer guys do not understand the feelings someone has for a new car. I am going to take my next car to the RTO.

wolfinstein · 14th December 2007, 21:20

Picked mine while it was being unloaded from the Just arrived Trailer...So had a Dusty, Brand New car being made ready in front of me.

The Orignal Alloted car, had a dent + scratch also 13 KM on it already....So I din't take that....!

pjbiju · 14th December 2007, 22:09

I was not that careful with the delivery of my car. I infact had the sales person drive the car down to my home. All this because I was not very comfortable at that point in driving through Pune's traffic. But I am sure, they could not have ripped my car, because of Pune traffic and roads.

BUSA · 14th December 2007, 23:37

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Maybe a bit OT but how many of you guys actually believe the Odometer reading of your new car. Most dealers remove the Speedo cable/speed sensor till before PDI and give you the car showing xyz kms. This is a common practice amongst most dealers.

Totally agree with Viper here, many dealers do this and its a common practise. Some companies like Skoda, Toyota, GM, Maruti do allocate specific TD cars with stickers, however sometimes the TD car is not available either because its on a TD or else its been used by the manager of the dealership and thats when such things happen.

Quote:

A Pete'd Swift can totally smoke a stock petrol?

With ease, infact i never went above 2800RPM

jerish666 · 15th December 2007, 00:03

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Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

this is a common thing nowadays.some people insist on getting deliveries too soon that the formalities of regn should be complete in half the time and things go like what busa told.a humble request to all those who love cars is that do not presurise the dealer to get the vehicle for delivery too soon.give them the time for the formalities and that can solve some of the problem.request to dealer -keep enough drivers so that a driver has to do multiple trips to the rto for the regn.
ram

That means if we pressurise the dealer they will spoil our car.Is that the way a dealer should do?Even they have the pressure no need to push to the rev limit.

phamilyman · 15th December 2007, 01:29

Good morning!

i've heard the same about BAL engines, even maruti me thinks.

brand new engine, filled with engine oil, redlined, held for a minute, and then oil drained, particles removed via magnets, and so on.

Your engines are typically pre-runin.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 15th December 2007, 07:24

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Originally Posted by phamilyman

Your engines are typically pre-runin.

Really? But, with the huge volumes that they manage, how could Maruti possibly do that?

I thought this was done only by super-car makers!

khanak · 15th December 2007, 07:47

I believe some people like to pick up their cars from the stockyard, where the trucks carrying the cars come. I guess this is the best thing to do to prevent any damage to your car.

rr_zen · 15th December 2007, 08:57

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Originally Posted by phamilyman

Your engines are typically pre-runin.

If this were the case, why would the owner's manual insist on running-in the engine yet again and provide running-in instructions as well ?

Samurai · 15th December 2007, 09:21

I recently talked with my local M.A.S.S works manager and he told me several details. All new engines are run for couple of hours continously without any load to check for any problems. If no problems are detected, then they are plonked into the car. Then the car itself is test driven for few KMs in factory track to test the overall working of the car. If nothing is amiss, then they are sent out for delivery in trucks.

The reason why Maruti insists on oil change in the first 1000Kms is this. The engine still contains the very first oil which was used in the no-load test and later test drive. This will have all the metal shaving from the time when engine started working. Maruti doesn't change the oil just before delivery.

14th December 2007, 20:20	#16
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,752 Thanked: 5,427 Times	We should always take the delivery from the stock yard and get all the RTO stuff sorted out with us driving. Doing this to our brand new cars is just not done
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14th December 2007, 20:35	#17
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	Never sent the XETA to the RTO, and the only time after the CNG install which is mandatory-Driven by my dad.
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14th December 2007, 20:41	#18
viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 19 Times	Hi, Maybe a bit OT but how many of you guys actually believe the Odometer reading of your new car. Most dealers remove the Speedo cable/speed sensor till before PDI and give you the car showing xyz kms. This is a common practice amongst most dealers. Viper
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14th December 2007, 21:04	#20
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	It's common. Before we picked up the Innova, i test drove the Hyundai Tucson which still had those white stickers they use to prevent scrathes on new cars. That car, was supposed to be delivered to some guy in Hubli the next day, and it had just travelled 410kms from Blore. I casually asked the driver how the roads were. He told me the roads were bad but he still managed to get it in around 4hrs....which adds up to an average speed of 102kmph!!! You have to drive like an absolute maniac to cover 410kms in 4hrs, especially on that stretch of the NH4. The best i've done is 5hrs 15mins on the Vtec. LOL Shan2nu Last edited by Shan2nu : 14th December 2007 at 21:06.
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14th December 2007, 21:14	#21
PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,416 Thanked: 807 Times View My Garage	These dealer guys do not understand the feelings someone has for a new car. I am going to take my next car to the RTO.
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14th December 2007, 21:20	#22
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	Picked mine while it was being unloaded from the Just arrived Trailer...So had a Dusty, Brand New car being made ready in front of me. The Orignal Alloted car, had a dent + scratch also 13 KM on it already....So I din't take that....!
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14th December 2007, 22:09	#23
pjbiju Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,357 Thanked: 1,092 Times	I was not that careful with the delivery of my car. I infact had the sales person drive the car down to my home. All this because I was not very comfortable at that point in driving through Pune's traffic. But I am sure, they could not have ripped my car, because of Pune traffic and roads.
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15th December 2007, 01:29	#26
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Good morning! i've heard the same about BAL engines, even maruti me thinks. brand new engine, filled with engine oil, redlined, held for a minute, and then oil drained, particles removed via magnets, and so on. Your engines are typically pre-runin.
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15th December 2007, 07:47	#28
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	I believe some people like to pick up their cars from the stockyard, where the trucks carrying the cars come. I guess this is the best thing to do to prevent any damage to your car.
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15th December 2007, 09:21	#30
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,547 Times View My Garage	I recently talked with my local M.A.S.S works manager and he told me several details. All new engines are run for couple of hours continously without any load to check for any problems. If no problems are detected, then they are plonked into the car. Then the car itself is test driven for few KMs in factory track to test the overall working of the car. If nothing is amiss, then they are sent out for delivery in trucks. The reason why Maruti insists on oil change in the first 1000Kms is this. The engine still contains the very first oil which was used in the no-load test and later test drive. This will have all the metal shaving from the time when engine started working. Maruti doesn't change the oil just before delivery.
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