Tricks Puncture/Tyre shops play: "Beware of nails on roads" and other experiences

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR · 17th December 2007, 19:47

That nailed thingy is used by govt. agencies - police, revenue and state excise (in Kerala at least) to catch vehicles in event of a chase.
They learnt the technique from "bandh" mongers and criminals who used these to stop potential victim's vehicles. In Malayalam, they are called "allu". അള്ള്.

Nitin · 17th December 2007, 21:41

Another common practice is to use the twisted wire from regular barbed wires. The sharpened wire sits at a perfect angle,and rest assured any tire that goes over it gets punctured.

Nikhilb2008 · 17th December 2007, 23:38

Lovely post Ram !! Thanks for the info.

aah78 · 18th December 2007, 00:16

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Originally Posted by BaCkSeAtDrIVeR

That nailed thingy is used by govt. agencies - police, revenue and state excise (in Kerala at least) to catch vehicles in event of a chase.

It's much bigger than that. They're used internationally - by MI6.

Reference: GoldenEye

team suzuki · 18th December 2007, 11:53

the first picture reminds me of the movie james bond ,when the rear of the bmw opens and all the caltrops are dropped on the road to puncture the mercedez

PatienceWins · 2nd January 2008, 14:33

Hi,

I found that tyre pressure is less in a tyre and by morning the tyre was flat. I changed my punctured tyre, tube one, with the spare one and went to the puncture shop after the Domlur signal on the left hand side (in the compound of the closed IOC petrol pump) on the way to commando hospital. It is on the main road and he gets lot of business because of the excellent location.

Here goes my expereience. First he wanted to make my tubed tyre tubeless. It is just a makeshift shop with card board on the road side. I said NO.

After filling air, the guy claimed that there is no puncture and the tube is losing air slowly as the tube is faulty. I noticed that the tube is uneven and told him to replace the tube though I did not buy his theory that the tube does not have a puncture.

My tube size is 175/ 65 R14 and he wanted to use a R13 tube. I asked him the reason and he said that tube radius does not matter.

He did not have 175/ 65 R14 and told me he will get it from a shop which is 3 kms away. He collected 400 Rs from me and went running to the shop. He came back and told me that tube is not available and there is an expensive tube that costs 550 Rs.

I decided to go to the shop and check out the tube. He gave me false directions. After lot of searching and roaming around for 20 to 25 mins I found the shop which is 2 mins walk from his shop.The shop is Karnataka tyres in Domlur and the owner is a Sardarji who is a nice person. I learnt from the owner that the puncture guy wanted a tube costing 150 Rs which was unavailable. So he wanted to collect 550 Rs from me for Avon tube costing 350 bucks. Sardarji told me that the puncture guy takes all customers for a ride. The Sardarjis shop does puncture repairing 24 hrs and I decided to use his services next time.

I went back to the puncture shop and blasted the puncture guy. Just when I was leaving another guy working in the shop came and asked me whether I want to go tubeless. I just stared at him and said NO. The puncture guy whispered something to the other guy and he escaped.

The tube had a small puncture. I knew it, but replaced tube as the tube size was uneven. I was wondering what all tactics people play to make money.

Mods, I started a thread as I could not find a similar thread to share my experience. Please merge if a similar thread exists.

iraghava · 2nd January 2008, 14:42

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Originally Posted by PatienceWins

The tube had a small puncture. I knew it, but replaced tube as the tube size was uneven.

That is not a problem, when you take the tube out of the tyre and inflate it, most of them will have uneven surface with some areas bulging out. This is perfectly normal & you need not replace your tube for the same.

PatienceWins · 2nd January 2008, 14:45

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Originally Posted by iraghava

That is not a problem, when you take the tube out of the tyre and inflate it, most of them will have uneven surface with some areas bulging out. This is perfectly normal & you need not replace your tube for the same.

Thanks Ishaan. I was wondering if it was normal.

I have taken the tube with me to use as a spare one.
Is it advisable to carry a spare tube when travelling on highway? In case the tube is damaged and no shops available for getting a spare one.

bblost · 2nd January 2008, 15:08

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Originally Posted by PatienceWins

In case the tube is damaged and no shops available for getting a spare one.

thats when you use the stepney!

and then get the flat tyre, fixed as soon as you come to service center.
(Where you can also buy a replacement tube)

In India, I guess that would be within the next 100 kms max.

my reasoning is based on not being sure for how long a time an unfilled tube will last in the heat.

Jaggu · 2nd January 2008, 15:09

where exactly is this sardarji's shop in domlur, will be helpful for quite a few of us who live on this side of town.

PatienceWins · 2nd January 2008, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Jaggu

where exactly is this sardarji's shop in domlur, will be helpful for quite a few of us who live on this side of town.

Its on the on the first left road before Shanti Sagar hotel (opposite water tank) in Domlur when you go on the one way from Inner Ring Road to Domlur. Shanti Sagar Hotel is on the left side after Domlur Signal when you come from Airport.

I will post the address and mobile phone number of the shop. The bill must be at home. You need the mobile phone number to get his services after office hours. The puncture repair guy stays near the shop.

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 3rd January 2008, 13:14

Please note - TUBED AND TUBELESS TYRES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS. BOTH LOOK BLACK AND ROUND, OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING COMMON ABOUT THEM. PLEASE DO NOT - REPEAT - DO NOT EVER EVEN THINK OF MERGING THEM.

Obviously the puncturewallah wanted to pull a fast one. He is playing with lives of people and deserves severe reprimand.

Also, please use correct nominal diameter tubes only. Using a 13" tube in a 14" tyre will cause a sure blowout due to unengineered application.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

lambuhere1 · 3rd January 2008, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatienceWins

Its on the on the first left road before Shanti Sagar hotel (opposite water tank) in Domlur when you go on the one way from Inner Ring Road to Domlur. Shanti Sagar Hotel is on the left side after Domlur Signal when you come from Airport.

I will post the address and mobile phone number of the shop. The bill must be at home. You need the mobile phone number to get his services after office hours. The puncture repair guy stays near the shop.

If I remeber correctly, are you talking about the one adjacent to the Lalithas food joint ? On the same side, we have fruit juice center and In the same lane, vijaya bank also exist !

PatienceWins · 3rd January 2008, 17:02

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Originally Posted by lambuhere1

If I remeber correctly, are you talking about the one adjacent to the Lalithas food joint ? On the same side, we have fruit juice center and In the same lane, vijaya bank also exist !

The shop is next to Ganesh Fruit Juice Center. I have not seen Lalithas food joint and Vijaya Bank.
When I was searching for the shop, I was told that it is next to juice center and I noticed the shop.

lambuhere1 · 3rd January 2008, 17:26

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Originally Posted by PatienceWins

The shop is next to Ganesh Fruit Juice Center. I have not seen Lalithas food joint and Vijaya Bank.
When I was searching for the shop, I was told that it is next to juice center and I noticed the shop.

Yes, I believe I am on the right track. For those who dont know, when you enter 7th Cross, Domlur Layout, Its behind Shanti Sagar Rest. They are a old couple who have been there for long time. Lalithas and Vijaya Bank are on the same lane for the landmark. Its been years since I had come to my old residencial layout

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BaCkSeAtDrIVeR BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kochi Posts: 2,522 Thanked: 752 Times	That nailed thingy is used by govt. agencies - police, revenue and state excise (in Kerala at least) to catch vehicles in event of a chase. They learnt the technique from "bandh" mongers and criminals who used these to stop potential victim's vehicles. In Malayalam, they are called "allu". അള്ള്.
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17th December 2007, 21:41	#17
Nitin Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,294 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	Another common practice is to use the twisted wire from regular barbed wires. The sharpened wire sits at a perfect angle,and rest assured any tire that goes over it gets punctured.
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Nikhilb2008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,196 Thanked: 10,138 Times	Lovely post Ram !! Thanks for the info.
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team suzuki BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ***** Posts: 143 Thanked: Once	the first picture reminds me of the movie james bond ,when the rear of the bmw opens and all the caltrops are dropped on the road to puncture the mercedez
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2nd January 2008, 14:33	#21
PatienceWins Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,416 Thanked: 807 Times View My Garage	Experience at Puncture Repair Shop Hi, I found that tyre pressure is less in a tyre and by morning the tyre was flat. I changed my punctured tyre, tube one, with the spare one and went to the puncture shop after the Domlur signal on the left hand side (in the compound of the closed IOC petrol pump) on the way to commando hospital. It is on the main road and he gets lot of business because of the excellent location. Here goes my expereience. First he wanted to make my tubed tyre tubeless. It is just a makeshift shop with card board on the road side. I said NO. After filling air, the guy claimed that there is no puncture and the tube is losing air slowly as the tube is faulty. I noticed that the tube is uneven and told him to replace the tube though I did not buy his theory that the tube does not have a puncture. My tube size is 175/ 65 R14 and he wanted to use a R13 tube. I asked him the reason and he said that tube radius does not matter. He did not have 175/ 65 R14 and told me he will get it from a shop which is 3 kms away. He collected 400 Rs from me and went running to the shop. He came back and told me that tube is not available and there is an expensive tube that costs 550 Rs. I decided to go to the shop and check out the tube. He gave me false directions. After lot of searching and roaming around for 20 to 25 mins I found the shop which is 2 mins walk from his shop.The shop is Karnataka tyres in Domlur and the owner is a Sardarji who is a nice person. I learnt from the owner that the puncture guy wanted a tube costing 150 Rs which was unavailable. So he wanted to collect 550 Rs from me for Avon tube costing 350 bucks. Sardarji told me that the puncture guy takes all customers for a ride. The Sardarjis shop does puncture repairing 24 hrs and I decided to use his services next time. I went back to the puncture shop and blasted the puncture guy. Just when I was leaving another guy working in the shop came and asked me whether I want to go tubeless. I just stared at him and said NO. The puncture guy whispered something to the other guy and he escaped. The tube had a small puncture. I knew it, but replaced tube as the tube size was uneven. I was wondering what all tactics people play to make money. Mods, I started a thread as I could not find a similar thread to share my experience. Please merge if a similar thread exists. Last edited by PatienceWins : 2nd January 2008 at 14:36. Reason: spelling mistake
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Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	where exactly is this sardarji's shop in domlur, will be helpful for quite a few of us who live on this side of town.
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DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,353 Times	Please note - TUBED AND TUBELESS TYRES ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS. BOTH LOOK BLACK AND ROUND, OTHERWISE THERE IS NOTHING COMMON ABOUT THEM. PLEASE DO NOT - REPEAT - DO NOT EVER EVEN THINK OF MERGING THEM. Obviously the puncturewallah wanted to pull a fast one. He is playing with lives of people and deserves severe reprimand. Also, please use correct nominal diameter tubes only. Using a 13" tube in a 14" tyre will cause a sure blowout due to unengineered application. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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