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Old 21st September 2021, 18:11   #19096
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You don't have to go to other countries, most states outside KA have far fewer speed-breakers.
Big part of the reason is because here the locals in small towns basically put up their own speed breakers where they think it's required! All of us must have seen these sudden projections that in no way resemble properly designed or standard speed bumps here and there on our travels. All put up with the help of the local MLA after demands from the locals. No signage, no paint or indication, just put up there to prevent outside vehicles from going too fast there for the safety of the people living next to the road. Why houses are allowed so close to a highway, that is another question. Actually, after seeing barricades now on some national and state highways at the entrances and exits of each small town along the way, that require cars to and trucks to swerve and become traffic bottlenecks, I think I rather prefer the illegal speed bumps!

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Big part of the reason is because here the locals in small towns basically put up their own speed breakers where they think it's required! All of us must have seen these sudden projections that in no way resemble properly designed or standard speed bumps here and there on our travels. All put up with the help of the local MLA after demands from the locals.
Talking about small towns - these "illegal" speed breakers come up as a reaction to some incidents that might have happened in the past. This sequence plays in city limits also.

When a highway is constructed/widened cutting across a village, rural folks who are used to crossing the roads, begin to face onslaught of fast moving traffic. In rural areas farmers need to cross the roads to reach the farms, kids need to cross roads to attend schools, people cross road to get to the bus stops on other side etc...What happens is vehicles doing 100+ kmph in such areas will not be able to judge the braking distance resulting in accidents. People meet with accidents, families curse the drivers and the roads, approach the local politician - who will "help" his folks by dumping mounds of tar on road from one end to other.

If the drivers were careful, if they had followed "Village limits - 30 kmph" rule, bad things would not have happened. But then...

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Talking about small towns - these "illegal" speed breakers come up as a reaction to some incidents that might have happened in the past. This sequence plays in city limits also.
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There are a couple of speed breakers just outside my house because some 15-20 years ago some Andhra dignitary's son had a T-bone accident at the junction!!

Was a bullet proof Scorpio. The window glass was easily 4-5cm thick! (But I digress ...)
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If the drivers were careful, if they had followed "Village limits - 30 kmph" rule, bad things would not have happened. But then...
Fact is highways are planned away from villages. Larger towns have bye-pass roads.

However the moment a highway comes up, land prices around it go up manifold. And commercial establishments come up and then residential areas pop up.

Am not talking about the older 2 lane highways but the dual carriageways.
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Guys - does anyone know if Devatha Plaza shopping complex has visitor parking for 4 wheelers and how to access - from Residency road or Hayes road ? Need to visit one of the establishments in that building S R Gopal and sons (opticians).
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Guys - does anyone know if Devatha Plaza shopping complex has visitor parking for 4 wheelers and how to access - from Residency road or Hayes road ? Need to visit one of the establishments in that building S R Gopal and sons (opticians).
Better to use pay parking on Residency Road and walk it up, payment can be made via Namma Bengaluru smart app or the parking meter
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Guys - does anyone know if Devatha Plaza shopping complex has visitor parking for 4 wheelers and how to access
Very, very limited parking. Most of the 4-wheeler spots are filled up with the cars of the people that work in the building. With a bike you might have a better chance, but even then chances are you'll end up parking outside behind the building.
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Big part of the reason is because here the locals in small towns basically put up their own speed breakers where they think it's required!
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If the drivers were careful, if they had followed "Village limits - 30 kmph" rule, bad things would not have happened. But then...
While I don't agree that speed-breakers are the solution, my question was, what is the reason for the higher percentage of speed-breakers in KA when compared to other neighboring states? They should also be facing similar issues. Among all major cities, Bangalore probably has the highest number of speed-breakers even though the average speeds here might be one of the lowest, thanks to the "always working" BBMP.
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Guys - does anyone know if Devatha Plaza shopping complex has visitor parking for 4 wheelers and how to access - from Residency road or Hayes road ? Need to visit one of the establishments in that building S R Gopal and sons (opticians).
Parking options are extremely limited and police enforcement is strict. Stay on left side of Residency Road and look for paid smart parking, if no joy, you need to drive on and take a left onto St Marks Road and find parking there. There is limited parking opposite Devatha Plaza if you are lucky. If you are passing near Garuda Mall. Park there, take an Uber and when you finish, cross road and take a Volvo bus to Garuda
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While I don't agree that speed-breakers are the solution, my question was, what is the reason for the higher percentage of speed-breakers in KA when compared to other neighboring states? ----- speeds here might be one of the lowest, thanks to the "always working" BBMP.
Yes and though not a "highway" the infamous "jail road" is one such road that has more speed breakers than any other road I have ever seen in Bangalore
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While I don't agree that speed-breakers are the solution, my question was, what is the reason for the higher percentage of speed-breakers in KA when compared to other neighboring states?
With the new prosperity, Indian cities saw a high new car ownership numbers. These are light, powerful cars compared to padminis and amby's. Together with the high speed multi lane highways being introduced, they posed a steep learning curve for drivers. Darwin's laws would have ensured that it was a quick and short learning experience, but in Karnataka's case the attrition rate must have been so high that those in power decided to over compensate on the safety measures! The end result: we are forced to crawl, even though the cars and the roads are capable of better speeds.

This sudden exposure to new technology resulting in high casualties isn't an uncommon situation. Please watch Russian Road Fails on YouTube to see how they are exposed to shockingly dangerous driving conditions without being protected by over designed safety measures. It's learn or burn, over there!


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Yesterday I drove on Surajandas Rd (connecting HAL Old Airport Rd to OMR), and was shocked to see very big, ungainly-designed axle-breaker kind speedbreakers being built in front of some defence establishment (I forget which). It's a surefire recipe for disaster! If they had to build a speedbreaker, they could have simply built the *hump* kinds. That road is a 4-lane divided road and generally sees high speeds especially in that stretch. Suddenly coming across a speedbreaker and that too the axle-breaker kinds, is going to cause some fatal accidents besides also majorly wrecking the vehicle axle and suspension system! It'll cause more damage that it's designed to prevent!
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Yesterday I drove on Surajandas Rd (connecting HAL Old Airport Rd to OMR), and was shocked to see very big, ungainly-designed axle-breaker kind speedbreakers being built...
It'll cause more damage that it's designed to prevent!
Speedbreakers are actually a statement of power. Those who have clout in the area put up speedbreakers in front of their houses or establishments. They will also put speed breakers on highways rather than on a minor road connecting the highway, because they believe that others should stop. Of course, the bigger the ego, the bigger the breaker.
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Yesterday I drove on Surajandas Rd (connecting HAL Old Airport Rd to OMR), and was shocked to see very big, ungainly-designed axle-breaker kind speedbreakers being built in front of some defence establishment (I forget which).
ADE I guess? The one next to the right turn that leads to Bagmane Tech Park. They have vehicles coming in and out of their gate and used to have those blinking 'cat's eyes' on the road before to get other vehicles to slow down. Also, I remember a couple of years ago a car rammed in to their wall late at night. So probably an (over) reaction to those things. They should ideally co-ordinate with the BBMP and get a proper speed bump installed, but I guess they have enough clout and funds to do whatever they want to!
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Yesterday I drove on Surajandas Rd (connecting HAL Old Airport Rd to OMR), and was shocked to see very big, ungainly-designed axle-breaker kind speedbreakers being built in front of some defence establishment (I forget which). It's a surefire recipe for disaster! If they had to build a speedbreaker, they could have simply built the *hump* kinds. That road is a 4-lane divided road and generally sees high speeds especially in that stretch. Suddenly coming across a speedbreaker and that too the axle-breaker kinds, is going to cause some fatal accidents besides also majorly wrecking the vehicle axle and suspension system! It'll cause more damage that it's designed to prevent!
Many thanks for the heads-up! I travel frequently on this road and this helps immensely. Will watch out for these speed-breakers.

I guess the DRDO lab you are referring to is Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE). I visit this lab often for official work, in fact, I will be going there later today as well. Will definitely be on the watch for sudden slowing down of fast-moving vehicles

I saw them cordoning off this section of the road on Monday morning (27th Sep) and traffic was diverted through DRDO township and made to join Suranjandas Road near HAL Engine Division. I thought they were patching up some potholes which had formed near ADE entrance. I guess it was for making these humps
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