[sachinpk]

Originally Posted by chandrda

Someone is at least thinking to do something regarding the Traffic

The report is a bit vague when it comes to details. Only thing which sound believable was the part of Fire brigade and ambulances having GPS devices which helps them in getting a right of way. This plan was even reported earlier. Next is on the part of reorganising the police station jurisdiction. I feel it is neccessary. Take for example HSR Layout Traffic PS. This police station now has in its jurisdiction - the infamous EcoSpace building, Bellandur Jn, Agara lake on one end to the Varthur village on the other end. Newly developed villages like Harlur, Kaikondrahalli are also there as bonus. It is under the command of one Inspector. Think about it, 80% of the messy area in ORR and the South Eastern side falls under this chap and his men.

Part of the plan also seems to make some arterial roads one-ways. We need to see how this would materialise. And there is also no plan for a "bus corridor" or some thing similar.

Originally Posted by binand

During British rule, Bangalore was a major military garrison in Madras Presidency. .... In short, Bangalore has been historically a major job creator so calling it a "retiree's paradise" doesn't feel accurate.

I concur with your partially . Bangalore is still the biggest military garrison in South India. But did you notice one thing? Even with such a huge military base the military actually is not adding to the city chaos. We have the ASC centre, Parachute Regt. Centre, Corps of Military Police centre, Madras Engineering Group centre from the Army and a huge set of Air Force offices in Jalahalli side. But even this has not led to any traffic chaos, or over crowding. Because all these places were real compact units all being highly self dependent. And yes there are very many PSUs here, but the jobs they created annually were not very high (when compared to IT). I don't think these PSUs recruited people by the truck loads. So yes, inflow of people were there but not at this high volume.

Originally Posted by dark.knight

Today we have the afternoon shift, the night shift & the evening shift accompanying the usual morning shift.. the roads are flooded 24/7 as a result.

We must also notice that all the other heavy industries which was in Bangalore, also did not give the employees so much disposable income like what IT did. I know a few Keralites who landed up in Bangalore since they got a PSU job. It was very late into their careers (like say 17-20 years of service) that some of them managed to build a home for themselves and settle down. And it took them some more years to buy a four wheeler. IT really brought in a quick neo-rich class, and it was pretty much expected that they would go on high spending. And the city also allowed them (with enough and more avenues) to blast away the money. Bangalore in that way has been a very liberal city. Chennai etc. may be a bit more "orthodox" on this angle.

Originally Posted by ajayclicks

Have to go to office today. JP Nagar till RMZ Eckspace. Google maps shows red in the usual places! Is everyone going to office today!

Did not notice less traffic today. On the usual route I take, 80% of the traffic which I see every day were still there on the road. Sunday traffic is usually less than that. So looks like lots of folks are working today.

[TorqueyTechie]

Today I saw an incident which made me rant about it here risking myself getting flagged in team bhp!

Today being a festival for a particular community, many of the people from that community were on the roads celebrating. They were riding bikes in groups of 2's and 3's without any headgear. One of these groups were stopped by a policeman near wilson garden for not wearing helmet. The person who was riding immediately wore his headgear (not helmet). The policeman was surrounded by others and was being pressurized to let them go. Finally because of the pressure (and also guess probably intimidated) he let them go. I felt really bad for policeman as he was trying to do his duty. We always curse policeman for not handling traffic or turning a blind eye to all the violations but in cases like this I doubt if they can do anything at all.

I know that I should not generalize any person, religion or community but I have seen this incident happen every year, during every function. Yes there are many others who violate rules day in and day out but at-least I have seen them be wary of cops but this I see being done very blatantly.

P.S : Mods and others, I do not have anything against the community I have spoken about nor I am associated with any other religious association. This is just something which I have noticed from quite some time and just voicing out after seeing it again happen today. Please remove this post if its against the policy.

[silversteed]

Originally Posted by TorqueyTechie

We always curse policeman for not handling traffic or turning a blind eye to all the violations but in cases like this I doubt if they can do anything at all.

I know that I should not generalize any person, religion or community but I have seen this incident happen every year, during every function.

There's a festival in the northern states where another religious group plays havoc on the roads in the name of faith. Search Kavariyas in Team-BHP.

A church had come up near a river in my hometown (it was just a cross when I'd finished school in last decade, then it made way to a bigger one, then a small prayer-hall came up and then a church, now it has a villa-sized built-up area - leaving it to your imagination on how such development could happen right on the riverside), where the main road is somewhat parallel to the riverfront. During the annual festival, we got stuck in a procession, along with many other vehicles including an ambulance. The arrogance with which the organisers refused to let at least one lane of the road free for vehicular traffic, was nowhere close to what the religion preaches about dealing with fellow beings.

The bottom line is, such boorish behaviour sees no boundaries in terms of religion, caste, political affiliation, financial status, anything.

[werfish]

Originally Posted by TorqueyTechie

P.S : Mods and others, I do not have anything against the community I have spoken about nor I am associated with any other religious association. This is just something which I have noticed from quite some time and just voicing out after seeing it again happen today. Please remove this post if its against the policy.

You being a private person had to put up so much of disclaimer for fear of being labeled. You can only guess the choices the policeman had.

[TorqueyTechie]

Originally Posted by silversteed

A church had come up near a river in my hometown (it was just a cross when I'd finished school in last decade, then it made way to a bigger one, then a small prayer-hall came up and then a church, now it has a villa-sized built-up area - leaving it to your imagination on how such development could happen right on the riverside), where the main road is somewhat parallel to the riverfront. During the annual festival, we got stuck in a procession, along with many other vehicles including an ambulance. The arrogance with which the organisers refused to let at least one lane of the road free for vehicular traffic, was nowhere close to what the religion preaches about dealing with fellow beings.

The bottom line is, such boorish behaviour sees no boundaries in terms of religion, caste, political affiliation, financial status, anything.

I agree. But this behaviour is with all religions. I have seen a small stone turn into a big temple, a wall constructed in middle of playground and turned into prayer area and you have given example for one more. This is again not right but it is for a separate thread and bit different discussion. But yes your last point does put up the complete picture of what India is or rather how people in India are.

Originally Posted by werfish

You being a private person had to put up so much of disclaimer for fear of being labeled. You can only guess the choices the policeman had.

I agree. Thats why I mentioned that policeman would not have any choice at all. I think of all the preaching's that is done in the religious institutions, they should first mention about being good the law of the land. How can you be so brazen and go about trashing the law or bully out of something but cry hoarse when something happens to their near and dear ones because of the same law is something I cannot fathom!

[sachinpk]

Originally Posted by TorqueyTechie

The policeman was surrounded by others and was being pressurized to let them go. Finally because of the pressure (and also guess probably intimidated) he let them go.

. This is precisely the reason I was very cynical about the drive organised by the Bangalore City police against the biker gangs doing wheelies and the stunts on the roads. I know about one such drive which happened last week, but nothing after that.

There is a saying that "the law & order rests at the feet of a policeman's boots". It has a very large meaning. So if the police man's boot does not reach a place, or the boots have to turn back/walk back, that means the law and order does not exist there.

[Chetan_Rao]

Given how bad and under-equipped Bangalore's road network already is, it's time the administration stopped permitting blatant ad-hoc closing of roads for religious reasons. Any religion, any festival. Find a way to celebrate without causing widespread nuisance, or just stay home.

The common folk on the road are harassed enough already without needing to put up with boorish, brash and downright hooligan behavior every time a festival comes around, which is about every second day in India.

[ajayclicks]

Originally Posted by sachinpk

Did not notice less traffic today. On the usual route I take, 80% of the traffic which I see every day were still there on the road. Sunday traffic is usually less than that. So looks like lots of folks are working today.

True. I saved barely 5 mins. It was crawling as usual from Iblur till Ecospace.

[procrj]

Originally Posted by ajayclicks

True. I saved barely 5 mins. It was crawling as usual from Iblur till Ecospace.

Different story on the KR Puram & MG Road stretch. I usually take 65-70 minutes to reach office from yeshwantpur - ITPL main road via old airport road and today morning it took 50 minutes. Was expecting it to take the usual time i.e 70-80 minutes on my way back home via KR Puram but surprise surprise it took 50 minutes crossed KR Puram in 3 minutes - must be some sort of record!

[srishiva]

Originally Posted by TorqueyTechie

I agree. But this behaviour is with all religions. I have seen a small stone turn into a big temple, a wall constructed in middle of playground and turned into prayer area and you have given example for one more. This is again not right but it is for a separate thread and bit different discussion. But yes your last point does put up the complete picture of what India is or rather how people in India are.



I agree. Thats why I mentioned that policeman would not have any choice at all. I think of all the preaching's that is done in the religious institutions, they should first mention about being good the law of the land. How can you be so brazen and go about trashing the law or bully out of something but cry hoarse when something happens to their near and dear ones because of the same law is something I cannot fathom!

In U.S during Cinco de Mayo people blare horns and drive shouting in their cars and bikes driven rashly. (its accepted to a certain NEW limits on that day)

I think authorities should plan with people concerned so that they can make right arrangements with detours etc. Little bit of inconvenience should be fine

[glenmz]

Was a bad day in traffic for me today morning. was at Escospace at 10:30 AM and reached JP Nagar by 12:10. almost 45 mins to cross slikboard. And traffic was still bad on the ORR to BTM. I took the left at dominos / HDFC to lake road and it was smooth traffic after that.

[rohanak1]

Originally Posted by the_joker

Off-Topic : what app are you using to log that?

Its called SpeedView. Search on google playstore

[dark.knight]

Originally Posted by sachinpk

IT really brought in a quick neo-rich class, and it was pretty much expected that they would go on high spending. And the city also allowed them (with enough and more avenues) to blast away the money. Bangalore in that way has been a very liberal city. Chennai etc. may be a bit more "orthodox" on this angle.

I've assisted in the HR line briefly and have shuffled through enough resumes of people of every position from a fresher to middle level and then the heads. According to me the I.T industry specially lower down does not pay well at all, its a cleverly masked salary system. Instead of the nouveau-riche I'd just call them faux-riche, in that they spend heavily on clothes, dress accessories, fancy phones and gourmet restaurants and because of that their savings are next to nothing. I've known many who stay in 1-room "cabins" so to speak, on rent for years together. People who view them from outside would perceive them to be great earners but their bank balance would reflect quite the opposite.

That's because Bangalore is vulgarly expensive.. need an Uber cab? You need to shell out 100 bucks for 3-4 kms, autos are no different. Restaurants average about Rs.400-500 per couple barring the simple South-Indian ones, pubs run into 4 figures with ease and then they also buy their own cars & bikes 1 year into their jobs.. another financial planning disaster. Malls & movies will drain whatever little is left. This is where Bangalore as a city today specialises in blasting ones wallet open without he/she even realizing it. I'm not being a square by saying none of these are required, quite the contrary.. just that the people starting out today start by spending much more than they should. Also Chennai does seem to be conservative at first glace, while I may not know much about the city since I spent a total of 5-6 days there, I do know that they spend bags on money on gold, almost 6-digit figures on sarees for special occasions and then the property/rental values there are through the roof, much more higher than Bangalore. They just are better at concealing their spend.

Originally Posted by TorqueyTechie

Today I saw an incident which made me rant about it here risking myself getting flagged in team bhp!

How convenient, I saw another "young" motorist in Langford Town, not too far away from where you were. By young I mean no-license young, riding what seemed to be a superbike of sorts (my bike knowledge isn't great so I don't know the make) driving at easily 60-80 on a narrow lane bang into a parked car from the side.. fall down, pick up the bike again only to hit double speeds than before. He was helmetless as well. While I'm on the topic I'm just pointing out that he may have belonged to the same group that you saw.

My ONLY problem here is that there is a law which says one cannot ride without helmet and a license (I know that part because apparently the boy is a regular on that street and is aged about 14/15). Such people should not go unpunished as a motorbike in the hands of raging hormones is a loose-cannon, a rogue missile if you will.

[paragsachania]

We have ranted a lot when it came to sections/areas where Civic-Defence frictions have left a lot of projects in limbo or the roads never getting the attentions since more than a decade.

With this news coming out of a recent meeting between Govt. Officials and the Defence Ministry, let us hope that undone projects get completed soon and those extra chunks of defence land make way for additional Infra projects that will ease the traffic bottlenecks at vital locations:

Defence land boost for city road infrastructure

The Defence Ministry has agreed in principle to give 38 acres and 28 guntas of its land at 16 different locations in Bengaluru to improve road infrastructure.

The decision was taken at a high-level meeting chaired by Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar and attended by the defence and state government officials here on Thursday.

The Defence Ministry’s gesture is likely to speed up several projects, including:

• Building of a skywalk near Esteem Mall after the Hebbal flyover on Ballari Road
• Railway overbridge at Byappanahalli
• Widening of Victoria Road from Old Airport Road to D’Souza Circle
• Formation of a new inner ring road from Challaghatta to Koramangala

Some of these projects were pending for over five decades, Union Minister for Statistics and Programme Implementation D V Sadananda Gowda told reporters.

He said the matter would be discussed at the Central level in three or four days and tabled in the Cabinet meeting. Subsequently, work orders for the pending projects will be issued, he added.

Discussions were also held on the defence establishment taking over land within 500 yards of the testing range near Mandur. In return for the defence land, the state government will provide about 400 acres on the outskirts of Bengaluru, probably near Anekal, and elsewhere in the state.

The meeting was attended by BJP parliamentarian P C Mohan, Chief Secretary Arvind Jadhav, Major General K S Nijjar (General Officer Commanding of Karnataka and Kerala sub area) and BBMP Commissioner N Manjunatha Prasad

And here's a list of pending projects:

Pending projects

• Skywalk near Esteem Mall
• Railway overbridge at Maruthi Sevanagar in Banaswadi
• Widening of road from Trinity Circle to Domlur on Old Airport Road
• Widening of Victoria Road from Old Airport Road to D’Souza Circle
• Widening of Murphy Road from Kensington Road to Old Madras Road
• Widening of Halasuru Road from Dickenson Road to Kensington Road
• Permission for inner ring road from Challaghatta to Koramangala

Link to the Newspaper Article: Deccan Herald

[hemanth.anand]

For a change, this is not a rant!

Today I missed my company cab because I was too lazy to get up in this weather.
I started from home at 07:00 (my cab pick up time is 06:30 these days).
I always used to wonder why its called romantic weather-today I got it.

With wipers switched on at its slowest speed,
I was cruising on the empty and NICE road.
Droplets of rain running upwards on the front glass,
Trying hard to escape the wiper's lash.
Not many car's and mobikes to honk and irritate,
I reached office on time though I started late.
It was me and my car in the rain,
I fell in love again!