[deehunk]

But speaking in Kannada makes no difference, our Bengaluru has imported criminals too like other professionals. There are small pockets of criminal areas on Sarjapur Road too, be cautious between Agara to Kaikondrahalli, Kodathi to Dommasandra, and Sompura to Sarjapura. The antisocial elements prefer to choose certain points depending on the availability of quick escape routes.

[audioholic]

Originally Posted by PreludeSH

Should be 'sorry guru' or 'sorry anna'. Dont think anyone translates sorry

Originally Posted by srvm

Kshamisi, I think

If you want to take a slightly aggressive stand compared to asking sorry straightaway, I use the kannada slang for "What do you think you are doing" by "Yaakeyyy?" Since that explains a lot of things to the other party, starting from the fact that they are talking to a localite, till the fact they they aren't going to get away with their usual antics and hence their initial momentum is reduced greatly after which you can have a regular Convo about bad roads, bad traffic and stuff.

Asking sorry straightaway isn't always workable and gives them a good vibe and upper hand. If it's a sensible party you can expect things to go well else they will use that as an advantage.

[shankar.balan]

Originally Posted by D4d-maniac

One pro point for me is that I can understand and speak kannada, as I have been living here since 3 years. People don’t expect me to understand Kannada as I have a Punjab registered car.

I think this whole expectation thing about speaking Kannada is basically wrong. This was never such a parochial and chauvinistic city as it seems to have now become. But discretion being the better part of valour, the advice is good.
Anywhere in the world its nice to know a little of the local language and to be respectful.
The problem here in Bangalore is the ever widening gap between the haves and have nots. And the fact that many of these miscreants hide behind this ‘local’ and “kannada” language chauvinism.
Yet it is also true that there are enough ‘imported’ miscreants too.
Investing in a good pepper spray is worth it I feel. To be used preventively.

[ValarMorghulis]

Originally Posted by Sebring

Good advice. What's the Kannada word for Sorry? Just curious

ChatGPT says "The word for "sorry" in Kannada is "ಮನ್ನಬಹುದು" (mannabahudu)."

[warrioraks]

Originally Posted by Sedate_Drive

1. Do not horn at anyone. Be patient and wait till the road widens for me to overtake. Have seen people getting irritated when someone behind them horns. I am talking about mild horn and not the harsh ones.
2. Avoid eye contact when someone starts honking or trying to talk to me. Just mind my business.
3. Ensure to lock the doors (my Grand i-10 does not lock by itself and I will have to do it manually) and windows down not more than 3 to 4 inches. Ensure that no one from outside can out their hands through it.
4. Avoid high beams. It irritates the bikes coming from opposite and I have experienced someone blocking me for it.
5. Next step out of the car and ask sorry in Kannada and walk away. Do not get into any argument.

Thanks for sharing these tips.
I would suggest being cautious with the last one.
Stepping out of the car even with noble intentions of apologizing could be a hit or a miss. It increases the exposure and physical proximity to the other party. In case of anti-social elements looking for trouble, it could lead to more altercations, phone-snatching, etc etc.

I am new to Bangalore (with a non-KA number plate) and was always led to believe it is a very safe city. Will need to be more careful based on the experiences shared over last few posts.

[Sedate_Drive]

Originally Posted by Sebring

Good advice. What's the Kannada word for Sorry? Just curious

Originally Posted by srvm

Kshamisi, I think

Originally Posted by PreludeSH

Should be 'sorry guru' or 'sorry anna'. Dont think anyone translates sorry

I just say "Sorry Guru" & "Aaithu hogu guru (please carry on in Kannada)" and try coming out the situation.
It has worked with me 2 times and hopeful to not get into that situation again.

[deehunk]

Originally Posted by ValarMorghulis

ChatGPT says "The word for "sorry" in Kannada is "ಮನ್ನಬಹುದು" (mannabahudu)."

These translators are more than enough to spoil our regional languages, please do not rely on them for understanding a language. There is no such word as Mannabahudu, Mannisi is a high-level word, and Kshamisi is enough for day-to-day purposes, while I am extremely sorry if you are learning these words to talk to a criminal in Bangalore. Just look at google maps, barring Telugu and Kannada, Tamil and Malayalam are getting their pronunciations better I would say among the Dravidian languages.

[Sedate_Drive]

Originally Posted by audioholic

If you want to take a slightly aggressive stand compared to asking sorry straightaway, I use the kannada slang for "What do you think you are doing" by "Yaakeyyy?" Since that explains a lot of things to the other party, starting from the fact that they are talking to a localite, till the fact they they aren't going to get away with their usual antics and hence their initial momentum is reduced greatly after which you can have a regular Convo about bad roads, bad traffic and stuff.

Asking sorry straightaway isn't always workable and gives them a good vibe and upper hand. If it's a sensible party you can expect things to go well else they will use that as an advantage.

Agree... 2 occasions were it worked, I believe were group of people from some MNC, who wanted to race home and hence it worked.
If it was a different group, the result would have been different.

[am1m]

Originally Posted by warrioraks

I am new to Bangalore (with a non-KA number plate) and was always led to believe it is a very safe city.

It is. Please don't get influenced unduly by the posts about needing to carry pepper spray, iron rods, hockey sticks, etc. There's absolutely no need. Just exercise the same common sense and caution you would in any big city.

Driving/riding in Bangalore is frustrating more than unsafe and as long as you don't unnecessarily escalate the situation, when some mishap happens, all should be fine. There's a great thread on dealing with road rage/de-escalation and that's of more use than carrying weapons or getting worried to the point of not being able to enjoy a normal drive/ride.

When I was younger, I was a bit of an idiot and wouldn't back down in any minor road issue, got in to several verbal tussles. Even then it never got physical, just threats and abuse from both sides for 10-15 mins. These days, I just wave things away and life is infinitely better.

[balenoed_]

Originally Posted by Sedate_Drive

5. Next step out of the car and ask sorry in Kannada and walk away…

Sorry, ask sorry for what?

[Sedate_Drive]

Originally Posted by balenoed_

Sorry, ask sorry for what?

I just try to get out of the situation and avoid arguments (when its late night and roads are deserted).
This way, I can avoid any confrontation and head home peacefully.

[ValarMorghulis]

Originally Posted by deehunk

These translators are more than enough to spoil our regional languages, please do not rely on them for understanding a language. There is no such word as Mannabahudu, Mannisi is a high-level word, and Kshamisi is enough for day-to-day purposes, while I am extremely sorry if you are learning these words to talk to a criminal in Bangalore. Just look at google maps, barring Telugu and Kannada, Tamil and Malayalam are getting their pronunciations better I would say among the Dravidian languages.

My apologies. I had no idea this wasn't true.

[deehunk]

Originally Posted by ValarMorghulis

My apologies. I had no idea this wasn't true.

No worries, the first time I used a translator was in France for a couple of blank taxi bills, the real intention was not understood by the driver and he kind of refused it as an unethical request.

[vamsi_k_b]

Originally Posted by ValarMorghulis

ChatGPT says "The word for "sorry" in Kannada is "ಮನ್ನಬಹುದು" (mannabahudu)."

My god. ChatGPT has got this completely wrong. I tried with the same prompt a few times and it was wrong all the times.


ChatGPT uses a type of AI called the transformer architecture to translate text from one language to another. It takes the source text, encodes it into a vector representation, and then uses a decoder to generate the target text based on what it has learned from large sets of parallel text in both languages. However, it still has limitations in accurately translating expressions that are unique to a specific culture or language.


ChatGPT in general is not a Translation tool ( in spite of what it may claim )

I have provided it with a better suggestion. It might update itself eventually ( I highly doubt this process is automated )

[itwasntme]

Please note!

Restricted vehicle movement for India Energy Week
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Will create mayhem on the rubbish 'peripheral' roads, but hugely help city traffic