Fake registration saga continues! Now a Lamborghini Gallardo seized in Bengaluru

james · 1st August 2020, 20:29

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Originally Posted by GTO

he's getting it repaired at a roadside place

They haven't mentioned it was being repaired at a roadside garage, GTO. It could have been parked outside one of the well known exotic car garages in Bangalore awaiting its turn to go in.

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Originally Posted by GTO

A minute's search on Vahan reveals this:
Attachment 2036565

The thing with Vahan site\App is it doesn't always throw up results. Some of my vehicles that were showing up on the vahaan site late last year aren't now. But if i get a B-Extract, all the details populate and are accurate.

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Originally Posted by DusterBoy

Why would people buy these cars in India ?

Come on, you have to be joking. Its an exotic car- One that enthusiasts dream day and night of having. it gets our heart pumping faster and puts a grin on our face. Its a decision made with the heart and not the mind. Noone needs one but everyone wants one!

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Originally Posted by turbo

Then why are records for MH02BM 8999 and MH02BM 9001 easily available?

Its possible that the car was de-registered and transferred to another state like PY? I know someone who did this- He bought a used car and then re-registered it in PY because he wanted a particular number and also wanted to show it as a 'New' car.

Cheers!

turbo · 1st August 2020, 20:49

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Originally Posted by james

Its possible that the car was de-registered and transferred to another state like PY? I know someone who did this- He bought a used car and then re-registered it in PY because he wanted a particular number and also wanted to show it as a 'New' car.

Then it should be running the new number, no?

I think it is already clear that this car was initially DL registered. What happened after that is the mystery.

silverado · 3rd August 2020, 16:34

The fact that its been seized tells us that its fake.
Look at the police in picture, the smile tells me they really enjoyed catching this one.
The Police didnt seize because it was missing on Vahan, its just not registered properly it seems. If it was it wouldn't be lying with police and become news. What i fail to understand is how someone can be so audacious to drive with a fake number!

Was he trying to hide behind the fact that no one would dare stop such an expensive car?
And if the guy really was getting it repainted on road side shop, he might as well have fitted a CNG kit to his lambo

And why do these cars rot away to death, police should find some system to sell them back.

james · 3rd August 2020, 19:40

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Originally Posted by turbo

Then it should be running the new number, no?

Bangalore RTO keeps having drives against out of state registered cars. In the recent past, they have been going after PY reg cars in particular with a vengeance.
Crazy thought but i wont be surprised if someone puts on their old MH/DL//HR plates instead of their PY plates.

funkykar · 4th August 2020, 09:37

I wonder if car was in hands of any agent dealing high end cars. May be was looking for a new buyer who could buy as is or buy and pay road tax and reregister.

Often high end cars visit known good FNG's for body work like paint job, mainly to leave no trace. Trust me, some of these FNG's could be more expensive than in showroom and also better workmanship. They do this to not dent the valuation of their vehicle. There is one next to my office on Ulsoor road. He is popular since decades and I have seen 100s of luxury cars come here for body work in last 12 yrs, for what may appear to look like a shady place. His work is so good, unless its ma super trained guy, they cant even make out it was tinkered with. ITs not a cover up work he does, but a real good work.

So his customers get a good job and also not leave a trace.

SNA411 · 1st March 2022, 00:32

Well, the MH02 9000 Gallardo lives on.

Spotted in this video, seemingly shot in October 2021.

https://youtu.be/Ln0hq_WZ098?t=221

tanmay1904 · 1st March 2022, 00:56

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Originally Posted by SNA411

Well, the MH02 9000 Gallardo lives on.

Spotted in this video, seemingly shot in October 2021.

This car has been restored to its former glory by its new owner and currently resides in Pune. it arrived here in Diwali 2021. For more details about the car, you can check out my post on another thread.
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shift...ml#post5228778 (Team-BHP Stickers are here! Post sightings & pics of them on your car)
Here is a video made by its owner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSDL13Cp7Mg

The owner is a nice person to talk to whenever we bump into each other. He also owns the infamous "69" Toyota Supra (now tuned to produce ~1000hp) as well as a ~600hp tuned Mitsubishi Evolution IX.

//M · 1st March 2022, 08:28

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Originally Posted by tanmay1904

The owner is a nice person to talk to whenever we bump into each other. He also owns the infamous "69" Toyota Supra (now tuned to produce ~1000hp) as well as a ~600hp tuned Mitsubishi Evolution IX.

TenHut replaced his Supra with the Gallardo. However I guess his Mitsubishi is not a legit Evo IX, it is probably a Cedia convert.

tanmay1904 · 1st March 2022, 08:57

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Originally Posted by //M

TenHut replaced his Supra with the Gallardo. However I guess his Mitsubishi is not a legit Evo IX, it is probably a Cedia convert.

The Gallardo replaced a MY2015 Nissan GT-R. The Supra is still with him and has gone for repairs as the car had broken its driveshaft. The Evo IX is a legitimate car, not a convert. It is just registered as a Cedia as is the case with some other privately imported genuine Evo's in the country

v1p3r · 1st March 2022, 20:44

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Originally Posted by tanmay1904

The Gallardo replaced a MY2015 Nissan GT-R. The Supra is still with him and has gone for repairs as the car had broken its driveshaft. The Evo IX is a legitimate car, not a convert. It is just registered as a Cedia as is the case with some other privately imported genuine Evo's in the country

So then it's illegally registered?

tanmay1904 · 1st March 2022, 22:09

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

So then it's illegally registered?

It is definitely not an illegally registered import. From what I understand, the RTO registered the car to its closest sub-category which was the Cedia at that time as the RTO systems may not have had an option to register the car as an Evo. But the taxes were to be paid on the full imported value of the car. This may have been the case more than decade and a half ago when the RTO systems weren't as modern as today's, not sure about this though. A look at the imports gathering dust thread on Team Bhp may help. One can find some posts regarding the registration of some of the cars mentioned there which might prove the point. Looking at your profile, you also seem to own an Evo 6. What is it registered as? (Is it in India?)

v1p3r · 2nd March 2022, 00:21

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Originally Posted by tanmay1904

From what I understand, the RTO registered the car to its closest sub-category which was the Cedia at that time as the RTO systems may not have had an option to register the car as an Evo. But the taxes were to be paid on the full imported value of the car. This may have been the case more than decade and a half ago when the RTO systems weren't as modern as today's, not sure about this though. A look at the imports gathering dust thread on Team Bhp may help. One can find some posts regarding the registration of some of the cars mentioned there which might prove the point. Looking at your profile, you also seem to own an Evo 6. What is it registered as? (Is it in India?)

Haha good answer.

By the way, the older RTO systems were far better - for example, you could register Ferraris even when they didn't sell in India. Now you cannot register a model / manufacturer that isn't sold domestically or isn't BS6. I've recently had the joy of going through this process. And nope, not in India.

KiloAlpha · 2nd March 2022, 09:15

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

By the way, the older RTO systems were far better - for example, you could register Ferraris even when they didn't sell in India. Now you cannot register a model / manufacturer that isn't sold domestically or isn't BS6. I've recently had the joy of going through this process...

Which means that if someone imports, for instance, an Alpine A110 on TR (totally legal), they cannot register it at all?
There has to be a work around. There were posts in this forum of Tesla cars imported, registered and being used in Mumbai. How was that done?

v1p3r · 2nd March 2022, 10:45

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Originally Posted by KiloAlpha

Which means that if someone imports, for instance, an Alpine A110 on TR (totally legal), they cannot register it at all?
There has to be a work around. There were posts in this forum of Tesla cars imported, registered and being used in Mumbai. How was that done?

Well, I cannot speak about MH RTO - maybe they use a different software setup. I've personally seen the KA software unable to accept a car without BS6 certification that is baked into the database. There is a very tedious workaround that involves multiple levels of administrative sign-offs and releases.

It's possible that the Teslas, being EVs, have no need for BS6 certification.

Anwesh · 7th March 2022, 22:53

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Originally Posted by GTO

Did they even need to do that? A minute's search on Vahan reveals this:
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The number being searched reads as MH02 MB 9000 while the fake number being discussed is MH02BM 9000.

Regards,

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funkykar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 2,635 Thanked: 6,611 Times View My Garage	Re: Fake registration saga continues! Now a Lamborghini Gallardo seized in Bengaluru I wonder if car was in hands of any agent dealing high end cars. May be was looking for a new buyer who could buy as is or buy and pay road tax and reregister. Often high end cars visit known good FNG's for body work like paint job, mainly to leave no trace. Trust me, some of these FNG's could be more expensive than in showroom and also better workmanship. They do this to not dent the valuation of their vehicle. There is one next to my office on Ulsoor road. He is popular since decades and I have seen 100s of luxury cars come here for body work in last 12 yrs, for what may appear to look like a shady place. His work is so good, unless its ma super trained guy, they cant even make out it was tinkered with. ITs not a cover up work he does, but a real good work. So his customers get a good job and also not leave a trace.
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