2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India

nareshtrao · 10th July 2012, 13:09

Called KTM Bajaj showroom to confirm today. They have no such information.

narula123 · 11th July 2012, 09:35

Its a good thing that they are coming back into the market before (if) Triumph comes in. At this price point there is not much competition for the Ninja as of now. The GT650R continues to struggle thanks to various product and service issues.

Just hope that the 2012 model has actually sorted the handling and braking issues of the previous version (and not just on paper!). When u pay over Rs 5 lakhs for a motorcycle, you dont expect it to handle or brake like an obese Pulsar (based on feedback from some users).

narula123 · 13th July 2012, 20:44

BikeIndia website reports that bookings will indeed open from 15th July with deliveries to begin from 20th. Only 5 bikes per month per Probiking showroom. And a price increase of Rs 80,000 over the previous model. OUCH !!

They also call the changes on the 2012 model to be 'superficial' vis-a-vis 2011. That in my opinion is really not the case and all the international blogs n reviewers share the same point-of-view. Don't know who feeds the info to the fellows at Bike India?

black12rr · 14th July 2012, 12:33

One of the scary things on the outgoing model was pathetic brakes .For the bike of this size and power the brakes were a big let down . Hope they have improved or fixed the braking part .

lionell · 16th July 2012, 10:14

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Originally Posted by black12rr

One of the scary things on the outgoing model was pathetic brakes .For the bike of this size and power the brakes were a big let down . Hope they have improved or fixed the braking part .

I wouldn't say that the brakes were pathetic. Their response was surely spongy. A set of steel braided galfer lines did the trick for a lot of riders.

black12rr · 16th July 2012, 11:39

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Originally Posted by lionell

I wouldn't say that the brakes were pathetic. Their response was surely spongy. A set of steel braided galfer lines did the trick for a lot of riders.

And I know few of them who have replaced with galfer lines and still had the same issue .They were thinking of getting EBC stuff .

Speed-Freak · 20th July 2012, 10:45

The galfers did improve the feedback on the brakes however after the EBC its a different monster.

I have used the 650 for a little more than a year and approx 10k kms. The bike has been more than satisfactory, i never had a dull moment astride her. The bike is every penny worth it.

And to top it all world class customer service from Bajaj Probiking which was anyway the reason for me to upgrade to the 650 from the 250. Now am waiting for a 1000cc monster from the same stable to upgrade.

Da Vinchu · 20th July 2012, 11:23

Visited a probiking showroom in Indiranagar, Bangalore. They have confirmed that bookings will open by last week of July. Sad thing this they do not have any brochure of information about the 2012 model. They have asked me to leave my number and they will call me once they start thaking the bookings. Keeping fingers crossed..

sudhiryr · 21st July 2012, 15:21

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Originally Posted by @400Kph

I am not aware of the on road price of the current 650 R.Would somebody let me know ? Also i saw on the website section for 650R marked as " new " .Is that a 2011 model ? The above one looks nice and wouldnt mind trading it for my pulsar :-)

The price is approx. 5,85,230/- OTR, Bengaluru.

djay99 · 23rd July 2012, 00:16

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Originally Posted by sudhiryr

The price is approx. 5,85,230/- OTR, Bengaluru.

2010/11 650R model was costing some where around 5.4Lacs OTR BLR.

narula123 · 25th July 2012, 09:44

Update:

As per an Xbhp member, the bookings for the 2012 N650 have opened up at the Kanpur Probiking outlet.

Can someone kindly verify this?

narula123 · 25th July 2012, 17:51

Ok..so a friend of mine called the Kanpur Probiking showroom to inquire about the N650.

The dealer quoted an ex-showroom price of Rs 5.8 lakhs and an OTR of Rs. 6.5 Lakhs

Thats a full 2 lakhs more than the Hyosung Gt650N

Is Bajaj seriously over-estimating the market-value of its brand? Or is the dealer overcharging for early booking? coz none of the other probiking outlets have any info on the bookings as of now?

I hope its the latter otherwise its Hello Hyosung for me.

djay99 · 26th July 2012, 01:18

6.5OTR is expensive and one can buy a triumph street triple for that money if one can wait. IMO not worth spending on a ninja 650.

Shrek_924 · 27th July 2012, 13:09

A point to note on the pricing front is that the rupee has depreciated from Rs.44/USD a year back to Rs.56/USD. This alone would warrant an increase of ~27% in the ex-showroom price of the bike from Rs.4.7L to Rs.5.98L. This is excluding the USD300 price increase in the 2012 model.

And being a CKD model, the forex outgo on imports would have surely increased for Bajaj.
Only hope of buying this gem now rests on rupee going back to Rs.45-47 levels.

The only good point of waiting for rupee appreciation will be if you are strongly inclined on ABS as an option, which has been provided in the 2013 model.

Nilesh5417 · 27th July 2012, 13:43

After riding a Transalp 3 weeks ago for over 2000kms in alps, i'm sold on the ABS! I never would have believed that it could make so much difference in terms of safety for a 2 wheeler if not for actually using it.
No bike above 250cc (at least!) should be sold without ABS. The Ninja definitely needs it and for 6lacs, i'm pretty sad that it isn't equipped with it!
And OT but most of all, the REs being sold in India!

10th July 2012, 13:09	#16
nareshtrao BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 648 Thanked: 866 Times	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India Called KTM Bajaj showroom to confirm today. They have no such information.
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11th July 2012, 09:35	#17
narula123 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mumbai / D.dun Posts: 544 Thanked: 1,114 Times	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India Its a good thing that they are coming back into the market before (if) Triumph comes in. At this price point there is not much competition for the Ninja as of now. The GT650R continues to struggle thanks to various product and service issues. Just hope that the 2012 model has actually sorted the handling and braking issues of the previous version (and not just on paper!). When u pay over Rs 5 lakhs for a motorcycle, you dont expect it to handle or brake like an obese Pulsar (based on feedback from some users).
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13th July 2012, 20:44	#18
narula123 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mumbai / D.dun Posts: 544 Thanked: 1,114 Times	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India BikeIndia website reports that bookings will indeed open from 15th July with deliveries to begin from 20th. Only 5 bikes per month per Probiking showroom. And a price increase of Rs 80,000 over the previous model. OUCH !! They also call the changes on the 2012 model to be 'superficial' vis-a-vis 2011. That in my opinion is really not the case and all the international blogs n reviewers share the same point-of-view. Don't know who feeds the info to the fellows at Bike India?
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14th July 2012, 12:33	#19
black12rr Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ridin earth now Posts: 1,278 Thanked: 339 Times	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India One of the scary things on the outgoing model was pathetic brakes .For the bike of this size and power the brakes were a big let down . Hope they have improved or fixed the braking part .
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20th July 2012, 10:45	#22
Speed-Freak BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 145 Thanked: 77 Times View My Garage	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India The galfers did improve the feedback on the brakes however after the EBC its a different monster. I have used the 650 for a little more than a year and approx 10k kms. The bike has been more than satisfactory, i never had a dull moment astride her. The bike is every penny worth it. And to top it all world class customer service from Bajaj Probiking which was anyway the reason for me to upgrade to the 650 from the 250. Now am waiting for a 1000cc monster from the same stable to upgrade.
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20th July 2012, 11:23	#23
Da Vinchu Newbie Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Pune Posts: 5 Thanked: 4 Times	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India Visited a probiking showroom in Indiranagar, Bangalore. They have confirmed that bookings will open by last week of July. Sad thing this they do not have any brochure of information about the 2012 model. They have asked me to leave my number and they will call me once they start thaking the bookings. Keeping fingers crossed..
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25th July 2012, 09:44	#26
narula123 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mumbai / D.dun Posts: 544 Thanked: 1,114 Times	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India Update: As per an Xbhp member, the bookings for the 2012 N650 have opened up at the Kanpur Probiking outlet. Can someone kindly verify this?
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25th July 2012, 17:51	#27
narula123 BHPian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mumbai / D.dun Posts: 544 Thanked: 1,114 Times	Has Bajaj lost it? Ok..so a friend of mine called the Kanpur Probiking showroom to inquire about the N650. The dealer quoted an ex-showroom price of Rs 5.8 lakhs and an OTR of Rs. 6.5 Lakhs Thats a full 2 lakhs more than the Hyosung Gt650N Is Bajaj seriously over-estimating the market-value of its brand? Or is the dealer overcharging for early booking? coz none of the other probiking outlets have any info on the bookings as of now? I hope its the latter otherwise its Hello Hyosung for me.
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26th July 2012, 01:18	#28
djay99 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,475 Thanked: 544 Times View My Garage	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India 6.5OTR is expensive and one can buy a triumph street triple for that money if one can wait. IMO not worth spending on a ninja 650.
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27th July 2012, 13:09	#29
Shrek_924 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pune Posts: 60 Thanked: 21 Times	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India A point to note on the pricing front is that the rupee has depreciated from Rs.44/USD a year back to Rs.56/USD. This alone would warrant an increase of ~27% in the ex-showroom price of the bike from Rs.4.7L to Rs.5.98L. This is excluding the USD300 price increase in the 2012 model. And being a CKD model, the forex outgo on imports would have surely increased for Bajaj. Only hope of buying this gem now rests on rupee going back to Rs.45-47 levels. The only good point of waiting for rupee appreciation will be if you are strongly inclined on ABS as an option, which has been provided in the 2013 model.
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27th July 2012, 13:43	#30
Nilesh5417 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,807 Thanked: 2,596 Times	Re: 2012 Refreshed Ninja 650R heading to India After riding a Transalp 3 weeks ago for over 2000kms in alps, i'm sold on the ABS! I never would have believed that it could make so much difference in terms of safety for a 2 wheeler if not for actually using it. No bike above 250cc (at least!) should be sold without ABS. The Ninja definitely needs it and for 6lacs, i'm pretty sad that it isn't equipped with it! And OT but most of all, the REs being sold in India!
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