Re: Triumph Rocket, HD Rod or Ducati Diavel? Despite your details explanations of what you want the bike for, I am confused. People choose type of bike, engine configuration, brand, performance capabilities based on whatever emotional need they want to fulfill. The needs you seem to want to fulfill don't seem to fall into the types that various bikes fulfill.
You have selected cruisers. Straightaway there is a problem. Cruisers are typically large machines with long wheelbase and relaxed steering geometery that makes them slow and sluggish in handling terms. Its not a problem in the home of the cruiser, in the US, where big wide roads with sweeping curves, huge distances and thin orderly traffic minimize the handling handicap to a level acceptable to those not looking to ride around like their hair is on fire, while providing a stylish, cool, laid back experience of sitting astride an anachronistic engine that thrills not with power but with its characteristic rumbling feel and sound.
It fits into the american cultural paradigm of appeal of the open road, and lets people feel like they are tapping into the Rebel Without a Cause myth.
Coming to India, cruisers rapidly breakdown. We don't have The Open Road in the american style. We have densely populated chaos. The experience that one would have of a cruiser in the US is not really possible here. Their huge size and lazy handling mean that they are cumbersome in most indian conditions.
So what are we left with? Harley ads in India are always pushing the american national myth of the open road, freedom, rebellion. But what is a cheesy but still relevant exploitation of a national ethos in america becomes cynical marketing when transplanted to India. Oh, I've no doubt that it works to sell harleys here, but indian culture does not celebrate individualism, individual freedom, rebellion against the norms and values of the mainstream, the dream of the rebel heading out onto the open road to leave behind what he has left behind. In the US, most harley buyers aren't individualist rebels either. But enough are. And the rest get a chance to play the role of rebel by buying a harley. In India, with no instinctive grasp of the amerian ethos, we are left with little more than a pretence of macho flashy cool.
There is no other reason to buy a cruiser. Macho, flashy, cool.
But the thing is, cruisers are so cumbersome in INdian conditions, you have to be honest with yourself and consider whether their cumbersome nature will overwhelm their coolness. My dad's brother rides a Kawasaki Vulcan 2000LT and I've ridden it on the vast open roads of suburban washington, and I am mortified to think of riding that thing in India.
For all the driving I do on the highways, I've never seen a harley out on the open road. I see them parked in show off fashion in prestigious gathering places like Khan Market, and out on sunday morning group rides around the roads of lutyens delhi with Hayabusas and what not.
So my first statement in response to your question is this: Don't go about this with the dreamy diffuse thinking that have. Be clear about what you want and what you're going to get. Cruisers are large, sluggish handling, cumbersome bikes that will get you a lot of adoring attention, perhaps fill your own heart with joy and the sight and sound, but are not likely, in India, to produce the adventure and freedom that sells cruisers in the west.
I envsion myself riding back to delhi after a day's ride and I shudder in horror to think of riding a rocket III in delhi evening traffic from the kundli border to, say, defence colony or new friends colony. And I try to think of the roads where this bike could be enjoyed, apart from the heavily trafficked national highways, there aren't any roads around here where the rough surface wouldn't wreck the pleasure.
Still, if you are determined, my thoughts on these bikes:
1. Triumph Rocket III. I love this bike for its longitudnally placed inline triple engine. But I'd never buy it. Its far too heavy, far too large, far too long.
2. Ducati Diavel. Better handling than any cruiser, damn fast too. if you are determined to buy a cruiser, this one would be the least cumbersome.
3. HD Rod. Not sure which one you mean. The watercooled harley? That'll be somewhere between the diavel and rocket III in manageability.
I am making such sparse comments because the looks you can judge for yourself, the performance you don't care about, your brand preference I can't comment on, the handling doesn't matter much except so far as their manageability is concerned.
My own advice would be to forget about the cruisers and buy an AT instead. AT = Adventure Tourer. They are the type of bike best suited to Indian conditions for those more interested in the ride than the poser value. They are manageable in the worst conditions of traffic, they can handle almost any condition of road comfortably, they are comfortable for touring and adventure riding, and they handle well enough to be quite entertaining. They are the SUVs of bikes.
I wish BMW offered the F800GS in India, but it doesn't, so your choice is the R1200GS. If and when Triumph comes to India, you'll have the option of the Tiger 800XC. If those don't excite you, there is the multistrada. If the ATs don't do it for you, I recommend a Suzuki Bandit 1250 or a Ducati monster.
Any of these bikes will be more usable, more fun, more satisfying than the cruisers you have named. The only reason to buy a cruiser instead of these bikes is if you must have the style and image of the cruisers, whether for your own satisfaction or to impress other people. I am not saying that style and image are wrong reasons to buy a bike. You should buy whatever fits your reasons for buying. but you ought to be clear on what the reasons are. If looks, style, prestige, and posing values are not at the top of your list, don't buy a cruiser. If they are, buy a cruiser.
Last edited by Harbir : 20th November 2012 at 07:28.
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