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Originally Posted by argchoff It would be interesting to see the brakes being upgraded as well as new colours.....And then.....it would be great to have a street750 vs Bonnie comparo thread to help potential buyers make the choice. The pune HD dealer gives a test ride only in the amanora shopping centre internal road which is by no means helpful to buyers as regards the ride quality and power of the bike etc. |
Which cruiser for two-up riding?
I ride an ER6n for my solo rides and am looking for a bike that would be good for two-up riding, an entry-level cruiser in the 6 to 8 lakh bracket. These are my observations, and I hope someone can help me peg it correctly. Am sure many of you out there are asking the same questions, so here's an attempt to compare three bikes: The Triumph Bonneville SE, Harley Street 750, and the Kawasaki Vulcan S 650, which is rumored to be launched soon in India.
Harley Street 750
The Harley is the cheapest of the lot, and with better brakes and better mirrors, it can be a real value for money bike. It is customizable to the T, you can get the seat made at a local seatmaker's, drop the expensive Harley backrest for a top box, which costs only about 5-6 K. You can always change to better tyres, probably Michelin, because everybody has been complaining about the brakes and blaming the MRFs for the poor braking. In all fairness to MRF, this revzilla review of a 750 shod with Michelin also mentions that the braking is real bad.
Things that go in favor of the Harley are:
- Ground clearance of 145 mm. (Ninja 650 has 130 mm, Bonneville has 110 mm, and Kawasaki Vulcan S has 130 mm) A huge plus, this.
- Great suspension: check the revzilla review to see how good the suspension is
- Price: about 2 lakhs cheaper than the Bonnie, and if the Vulcan is launched at 6 lakhs ex-showroom, that too is going to cost north of 7 lakhs OTR in Bangalore
- Engine: peppy, quick...the one I rode had some problem with idling, but am sure that's not a common problem.
- Comfort for pillion (customize the seat at Rao's, and you have a plush ride for the pillion)
Things that should have improved:
- Mirrors (replace with Avenger ones, but probably those don't fit)
- Brakes (err, t-bhp is testing the upgraded bikes now)
- Reliability? Being made in India, with exposed wires and crude welds showing, also with a recent recall for a faulty fuel pump, and a one-off case of someone blowing the engine in six months...that's a niggle at the back of your mind. Do you want another Enfield in your hands when you were thinking it is an upgrade to relative peace of mind?
Now, the
Bonnie. Everybody loves it. It is ergonomically better than the T-100 (This review will clear all your doubts about why you should not dump the base Bonnie for the shiny T 100:
https://rideapart.com/articles/a-tal...wo-bonnevilles).
It is beautiful. You can't find faults with it. People who ride with a pillion find the ground clearance suspect. It is only about 110 mm (you can't find anything mentioned on their website), and you need to walk over the badly made bumps on most Indian roads. The Bonnie has been around for quite some time, is hugely customizable, and with the Paioli suspension borrowed from the Royal Enfield Continental GT, can handle better and also not scrape the bumps on the road. It is priced about 2 lakhs higher than the HD Street 750, but if you are spending 5.5L, you don't mind shelling out 7.5L for better fit and finish than the baby Harley. The braking, despite not having any ABS, is superb. Gosh, I think I am in love with the Bonnie. You should, however, wait for the new Bonnie models, christened Newchurch, with delectable paint schemes. Hoping they will be launched soon:
http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/imag...-gallery_5.jpg
Another question that makes you toss and turn at night is, how long is the 865 cc parallel twin engine of the Bonnie gonna be made? The new Bonnie that's planned is an 1100 cc parallel twin outputting around 90 bhp, and if that comes to India...okay, let's not go there.
Kawasaki Vulcan S
This is a beautiful bike, but not customizable. It already comes in three ergo fits, so that short people, middle-heighted people, and tall people can ride it without any issues by adjusting the footpegs and handlebar. It has a separate pillion seat and also a backrest, which is frightfully expensive, according to the Kawasaki website. The suspension is stiff, the braking is superb, the ground clearance is 130 mm, and the engine, according to the reviews, is the best of the lot. I ride a Kwacker, and can tell you how amazing the 650 cc twin engine is. The top end for the Vulcan will be sacrificed for some low-end grunt and better torque figures, but this engine can make you fall in love with it. This is an okay review from a Harley rider:
, but if you see this midsize cruiser shootout, you will get a better idea about what the Vulcan S has to offer:
I am eagerly waiting team-bhp's review of the latest and upgraded Harley Street 750, because that is the most affordable and VFM option. It is also a lot of fun to ride. The new blue color on offer is, very fetching indeed:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attach...-street750.jpg.
So, which entry-level cruiser for two-up riding? The questions keep piling up, and the decision making becomes all that harder. Meanwhile, all we can do is keep reading team-bhp and toss and turn in our sleep.