Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India!

Turbo Head · 10th February 2015, 01:30

With this pricing strategy I can only pray the guy was on dope or there must be some miscommunication regarding the speculative price announcement.
(Infact I considered Goldwing was sensibly priced)
As on this pricing, July or Dec, CKD or CBU, or even it is Made in India, Honda has already lost the game.

killjoy · 10th February 2015, 08:00

Guys, while I may or may not the like the pricing, just think for a second. What's the cheapest fully faired in-line 4 available in India? Now compare that price against the CBR650F and you have a winner. There will be lots of people buying the Honda!

Mashblue · 10th February 2015, 10:40

That sweet sound an inline 4 makes may be worth the 8 lakhs for many. Realistically Honda should be pricing this around 6 lakhs to entice ninja 650 buyers.

shan_ned · 10th February 2015, 10:55

Leaving aside the engine configuration, everything is going to be more or less same between N650 and CBR650F. Be it the riding comfort (though 650F has slightly more aggressive seating), performance, handling dynamics, etc.. So the main differentiating factor from the user experience perspective is the exhaust sound. I am just thinking whether anyone will be ready to pay an extra 1.9L just for that exhaust sound. I have no answer for that though. I wish Honda puts up a more sensible pricing and keep other competitors on toes. Followed by Kawasaki and Triumph, Honda introducing a middle weight is itself an encouraging news for all motorcycle enthusiasts. Hope others like Yamaha and Suzuki join the game as soon as possible.

payeng · 10th February 2015, 16:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by killjoy

Guys, while I may or may not the like the pricing, just think for a second. What's the cheapest fully faired in-line 4 available in India?

Now compare that price against the CBR650F and you have a winner. There will be lots of people buying the Honda!

Although the price hasn't been announced yet..

.. but most likely the cheapest inline 4 would be the DSK-Benelli BN600i... but of course it's not a Full Faired one

killjoy · 10th February 2015, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by payeng

Although the price hasn't been announced yet..

.. but most likely the cheapest inline 4 would be the DSK-Benelli BN600i... but of course it's not a Full Faired one

Maybe...but the current cheapest fully faired in line 4 is somewhere upwards of 16 lakhs or so and this is half the price of that, I am sure there will be many takers.

Ricci · 10th February 2015, 21:05

Among other friends ( not on Team BHP ), I had predicted on-road pricing will be around the 9 lac price and looks like I am right.

Even so, it looks very VFM compared to the choices we have save for the Z800. The Z800 offers better kit for similar or less, only lacks fairing which lot of people do want.

As for the N650 - it's tremendous VFM but it's built to a cost and it shows, somewhat. Spartan frame and suspension, brakes. The Honda isn't offering top-spec either, but it does mask the built-to-a-price feel/look much better.

I am one of those, for whom sound was also an important criteria. I never liked the Ninja 650's sound, but the weak brake and headlamp also compounded the choice. The Ceeber 650F is the bike I'd most likely plump for, had I been in the market, though the Benelli 600GT is a strong contender.

For anyone buying - hear the bike. Feel the bike. Quality wise, the price diff is a bit too high, yes, especially after seeing the Thai prices for reference, between the N650 , Z800 and CBR650F.

djay99 · 11th February 2015, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by shan_ned

I am just thinking whether anyone will be ready to pay an extra 1.9L just for that exhaust sound. I have no answer for that though.

I guess its not just about money. Feel of I4 sound is entirely different. Checked out N650 and Z800 back to back and i felt extra money is worth spending.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricci

As for the N650 - it's tremendous VFM but it's built to a cost and it shows, somewhat. Spartan frame and suspension, brakes. The Honda isn't offering top-spec either, but it does mask the built-to-a-price feel/look much better.

Very well summed up Ricci. N650 makes a wonderful proposition but exhaust, weak brakes put me off. I would have bought it if it had an extra cylinder.

Though 8L looks more when compared to N650, honestly i would have bought it as there is no other faired motorcycle in this price bracket. I guess next faired motorcycle is your's

but that's all together a different machine with hell lot of character

loki · 20th April 2015, 19:49

Folks - Any news on the launch? and the price?

Import data on zauba shows that Honda have imported parts from thailand for the CKD assembly on 2 dates - Feb 25th and March 2nd.
https://www.zauba.com/import-cbr650-hs-code.html

Interestingly, the parts seem to be in multiples of 11. Does that mean only 11 bikes initially?

Dear Honda, launch this at ~6 lakhs.

Rachit.K.Dogra · 20th April 2015, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by loki

Folks - Any news on the launch? and the price?

Import data on zauba shows that Honda have imported parts from thailand for the CKD assembly on 2 dates - Feb 25th and March 2nd.
https://www.zauba.com/import-cbr650-hs-code.html

Interestingly, the parts seem to be in multiples of 11. Does that mean only 11 bikes initially?

Dear Honda, launch this at ~6 lakhs.

Hi,

I have not seen any other concrete news after the update that it should be available by July and at nearly 8 lakhs.

Have been waiting myself too for an update, but no new news yet.

Till then, Happy Waiting!!

Regards
Rachit

Urban_Nomad · 20th April 2015, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rachit.K.Dogra

Happy || Waiting

The biggest oxymoron for the Indian motorcycle buyer ever

v12 · 21st April 2015, 21:49

8 lakhs is just too much for a CBR650F. And considering we have Benelli in the market, 8 lakhs is just way too much. 8 lakhs would have been a fair price if the CBR650F had a lot of other features from the RR range - USD Forks, ABS, engine tuned for more power etc.

Service cost wise too - I dont think the CBR would be cheap. The service intervals would be same as all other superbikes sold in India. And going by the discussion on various international forums - the first service cost is in the range of $100-120 - which is roughly around 6500-7500 INR.

http://cbr650forums.com

Aditya · 6th May 2015, 16:04

Honda has revealed that will start assembly of the CBR 650F motorcycle at its plant in Manesar, Haryana in the next two months. The bike will have 95% imported content and in the initial stages, two bikes will be assembled per day. Localisation is likely to be increased in the future.

The CBR 650F will be positioned in the premium motorcycle segment. It will be will be sold and serviced through a new Shop-In-Shop distribution format in 20 cities in India.

Link to Team-BHP News Article

v12 · 6th May 2015, 18:51

Great news Aditya! And not so great news too considering that it will be priced too high - I believe it will just touch the 10 L OTR
- only 5% local content
- premium segment

Honda needs to get the pricing right for it to be the market leader in this segment. If its launched at 6-6.5L ex showroom, it will be a goodbye to all the sub 10L superbikes.

loki · 6th May 2015, 19:18

Anybody knows the level of localization which Kawaski have achieved for the Ninja 650?

In thailand, both bikes are priced almost the same (around 300k baht) - with the Honda being slightly more expensive.

Now why shouldn't we have similar pricing difference here also?

Boo to Honda!

10th February 2015, 01:30	#76
Turbo Head BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New Delhi Posts: 322 Thanked: 215 Times	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! With this pricing strategy I can only pray the guy was on dope or there must be some miscommunication regarding the speculative price announcement. (Infact I considered Goldwing was sensibly priced) As on this pricing, July or Dec, CKD or CBU, or even it is Made in India, Honda has already lost the game.
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10th February 2015, 08:00	#77
killjoy BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 753 Thanked: 317 Times View My Garage	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! Guys, while I may or may not the like the pricing, just think for a second. What's the cheapest fully faired in-line 4 available in India? Now compare that price against the CBR650F and you have a winner. There will be lots of people buying the Honda!
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10th February 2015, 10:40	#78
Mashblue BHPian Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 157 Thanked: 292 Times	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! That sweet sound an inline 4 makes may be worth the 8 lakhs for many. Realistically Honda should be pricing this around 6 lakhs to entice ninja 650 buyers.
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10th February 2015, 10:55	#79
shan_ned BHPian Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Bangalore Posts: 296 Thanked: 428 Times	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! Leaving aside the engine configuration, everything is going to be more or less same between N650 and CBR650F. Be it the riding comfort (though 650F has slightly more aggressive seating), performance, handling dynamics, etc.. So the main differentiating factor from the user experience perspective is the exhaust sound. I am just thinking whether anyone will be ready to pay an extra 1.9L just for that exhaust sound. I have no answer for that though. I wish Honda puts up a more sensible pricing and keep other competitors on toes. Followed by Kawasaki and Triumph, Honda introducing a middle weight is itself an encouraging news for all motorcycle enthusiasts. Hope others like Yamaha and Suzuki join the game as soon as possible.
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10th February 2015, 21:05	#82
Ricci BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pune Posts: 809 Thanked: 1,177 Times	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! Among other friends ( not on Team BHP ), I had predicted on-road pricing will be around the 9 lac price and looks like I am right. Even so, it looks very VFM compared to the choices we have save for the Z800. The Z800 offers better kit for similar or less, only lacks fairing which lot of people do want. As for the N650 - it's tremendous VFM but it's built to a cost and it shows, somewhat. Spartan frame and suspension, brakes. The Honda isn't offering top-spec either, but it does mask the built-to-a-price feel/look much better. I am one of those, for whom sound was also an important criteria. I never liked the Ninja 650's sound, but the weak brake and headlamp also compounded the choice. The Ceeber 650F is the bike I'd most likely plump for, had I been in the market, though the Benelli 600GT is a strong contender. For anyone buying - hear the bike. Feel the bike. Quality wise, the price diff is a bit too high, yes, especially after seeing the Thai prices for reference, between the N650 , Z800 and CBR650F.
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20th April 2015, 19:49	#84
loki BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 305 Thanked: 802 Times	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! Folks - Any news on the launch? and the price? Import data on zauba shows that Honda have imported parts from thailand for the CKD assembly on 2 dates - Feb 25th and March 2nd. https://www.zauba.com/import-cbr650-hs-code.html Interestingly, the parts seem to be in multiples of 11. Does that mean only 11 bikes initially? Dear Honda, launch this at ~6 lakhs.
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21st April 2015, 21:49	#87
v12 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,739 Thanked: 7,213 Times View My Garage	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! 8 lakhs is just too much for a CBR650F. And considering we have Benelli in the market, 8 lakhs is just way too much. 8 lakhs would have been a fair price if the CBR650F had a lot of other features from the RR range - USD Forks, ABS, engine tuned for more power etc. Service cost wise too - I dont think the CBR would be cheap. The service intervals would be same as all other superbikes sold in India. And going by the discussion on various international forums - the first service cost is in the range of $100-120 - which is roughly around 6500-7500 INR. http://cbr650forums.com
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6th May 2015, 16:04	#88
Aditya Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17,835 Thanked: 77,043 Times View My Garage	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! Honda has revealed that will start assembly of the CBR 650F motorcycle at its plant in Manesar, Haryana in the next two months. The bike will have 95% imported content and in the initial stages, two bikes will be assembled per day. Localisation is likely to be increased in the future. The CBR 650F will be positioned in the premium motorcycle segment. It will be will be sold and serviced through a new Shop-In-Shop distribution format in 20 cities in India. Link to Team-BHP News Article Last edited by Aditya : 6th May 2015 at 18:33.
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6th May 2015, 18:51	#89
v12 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,739 Thanked: 7,213 Times View My Garage	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! Great news Aditya! And not so great news too considering that it will be priced too high - I believe it will just touch the 10 L OTR - only 5% local content - premium segment Honda needs to get the pricing right for it to be the market leader in this segment. If its launched at 6-6.5L ex showroom, it will be a goodbye to all the sub 10L superbikes.
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6th May 2015, 19:18	#90
loki BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 305 Thanked: 802 Times	re: Honda to assemble CBR 650 in India! Anybody knows the level of localization which Kawaski have achieved for the Ninja 650? In thailand, both bikes are priced almost the same (around 300k baht) - with the Honda being slightly more expensive. Now why shouldn't we have similar pricing difference here also? Boo to Honda! Last edited by loki : 6th May 2015 at 19:30.
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