[shabih]

Originally Posted by BrainyLad

This is the thread i was talking about - GreaseMonkey (BHP Handle) had got risers and adjusted the shocks:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/super...e-edition.html (Review: My Triumph Street Twin Gold Line Edition)

Hey man, I went through the thread and didnt find any mention of risers that this particular gentleman has installed. I spoke to Marsh Auto guys, their preload adjusters did wonders to my Interceptor. I was happy to hear that the same could be installed on the Street Twin as well but it needs handlebar risers and cable rerouting which is weird and something I do not want to do. I will check for a spring change and oil change in the near future.

[Satshan]

Would like to update my experience with Triumph dealer in Pune.

I visited Triumph dealer in Pune last week as I was looking to upgrade to a Trident 660. The dealership said that they all of the bikes out of stock but they have a Trident Tiger Sport 660 Test bike available for sale. The dealership was offering a flat discount of 2 lacs on the On-road price. (11.42 lacs OTR). They offered me a Test Ride of the Test bike. The bike felt very smooth to ride, suspension was plush, brakes were nice and power delivery was excellent. Ride and Handling was similar to a new bike.

Further, I inspected the bike thoroughly and it looked perfect. Tyres were in great condition (Michelin Road 5), Headlights and Tail-lights looked fine, fairing and Engine area did not show any scratches or bruises. The salesperson said test bikes are maintained by the service team and already serviced once. The ODO reading showed 6723 kms clocked. I confirmed the Manufacturing date of the bike, it was Oct 2023 manufactured. Checked the VIN number. The salesperson said the bike is still unregistered, and I will be the 1st Owner if I buy it. The Insurance and warranty period will be applicable from the date of registration as per the dealer. Before the delivery, the dealer agreed to completely service the bike, examine the Brake pads and chain sprockets. They will ensure ceramic coating is done too before handover. Overall, it looked a tempting deal. Left the showroom and kept thinking over few days whether I can go ahead with the purchase or drop the idea. The bike has been more than a year (around 14 months) with the dealership and the ODO reading seemed pretty alright considering the tenure.

Then, I visited the showroom today again to check out the best discounts that the dealership can offer. To my surprise, I could negotiate further by 42k (almost took 1 hour for this) and final Onroad price they agreed was 9 lacs. After lot of thinking, calculations and discussions with my better half, finally booked the bike by paying 50k booking amount. I am now skeptical whether I made the right decision mainly since the Manfacturing date is in Oct 2023 and Registration date will be March 2025. (big gap which can impact the sale of the bike in the future).

Here are some close-up pics of the bike:

[JayPrashanth]

Originally Posted by Satshan

The bike has been more than a year (around 14 months) with the dealership and the ODO reading seemed pretty alright considering the tenure.

Then, I visited the showroom today again to check out the best discounts that the dealership can offer. To my surprise, I could negotiate further by 42k (almost took 1 hour for this) and final Onroad price they agreed was 9 lacs. After lot of thinking, calculations and discussions with my better half, finally booked the bike by paying 50k booking amount. I am now skeptical whether I made the right decision mainly since the Manfacturing date is in Oct 2023 and Registration date will be March 2025. (big gap which can impact the sale of the bike in the future).

Here are some close-up pics of the bike:

Very strong, reliable motor. If maintained well, it can last really long. Test bikes are usually abused. Can't really help that. That's one downside I can see. Second is the price. For a test bike, it's steep. It should be at least 1 to 1.5 lakh cheaper (8-8.5) considering the fact that it's a test bike. Don't forget to get extended warranty. Worth the peace of mind.

Should you want a metal sump guard, contact Raw Performance of Mumbai. They make it for the Trident and Tiger 660. I used to have it on my Trident.

Cheers,

Jay

[Satshan]

Originally Posted by JayPrashanth

Very strong, reliable motor. If maintained well, it can last really long. Test bikes are usually abused. Can't really help that. That's one downside I can see. Second is the price. For a test bike, it's steep. It should be at least 1 to 1.5 lakh cheaper (8-8.5) considering the fact that it's a test bike. Don't forget to get extended warranty. Worth the peace of mind.

Should you want a metal sump guard, contact Raw Performance of Mumbai. They make it for the Trident and Tiger 660. I used to have it on my Trident.

Cheers,

Jay

Thank you Jay. Yes, even I felt 8.5 lacs could have been a better price since it was a test bike. I spent a lot of time negotiating to arrive at 9 lacs, however they did not want to go down any further.

I am getting the Sump Guard kit and Radiator Guard Kit for 7.5k each straight from the dealership. I am looking for other accessories like Frame sliders, Fork protectors, Tail Rack mount, etc from aftermarket shops. Will check Raw Performance from Mumbai regarding the accessories.

[doga]

Originally Posted by Satshan

The salesperson said the bike is still unregistered, and I will be the 1st Owner if I buy it.

I am now skeptical whether I made the right decision mainly since the Manfacturing date is in Oct 2023 and Registration date will be March 2025. (big gap which can impact the sale of the bike in the future).

What I find odd is that the bike is unregistered. Is this legal? Can dealerships insure bikes without registering them? If yes, how? If not, then how are they able to provide test rides? What happens if someone crashes, and some third party gets hurt? Is this even legal?

Regarding your purchase, approach this from a perspective of having a wholesome experience with the bike and not think of being able to sell or not sell the bike right now. Do dealerships really give long extended rides and most being within the city what kind of speeds test riders are capable of on our roads anyway? Only potential 'damage' could be due to overrev/revv-bombing or burnt clutches, the latter is easily reparable and IMO the former shouldn't be a low probability.

I sometimes think, with the advent of electric bikes, one of the biggest positives for a buyer is that this worry about the condition of the engine and what could've happened to it in the past goes away. You simply check the battery cell health and complete the purchase!

Btw, do you know if any street triples were on offer? Demo/display whatever? If yes, please pass on the contact of the salesperson!

[rajeevsulu]

Every new bike,even the ones that are sold and registered, is insured with the bike"s status as new. When the insurance is renewed, the owners name is entered. There is no issue with that.

Cheers

[doga]

I was of the impression that test ride bikes have to be registered given they'd be plying on public roads. Typically insurance companies would require registration before insuring.
Of course, dealerships can insure bikes without registering, but then it''s some kind of general insurance and not specifically two wheeler insurance?

[tanayr]

Originally Posted by doga

I was of the impression that test ride bikes have to be registered given they'd be plying on public roads. Typically insurance companies would require registration before insuring.
Of course, dealerships can insure bikes without registering, but then it''s some kind of general insurance and not specifically two wheeler insurance?

Here's (Explained: How to read temporary and trade number plates) how it works (basically either temporary registration or trade certificate, both are allowed to be insured specific to 2/4 wheelers.

[100Kmphormore]

Not just examine, have them replace the brake pads and sprocket, this effectively brings your buying price to around 8.5L on road and you will have a fresh start. Replace the brake fluid to DOT 5.1 and the fork fluids as well as its been 14 months old, leaky fork seals is a big deal on USD fork setup apart from regular service which includes fresh engine oil. Get the extended warranty without fail and have them give it in writing that there have been no insurance claims or part replacements for being a test ride bike, I feel they should offer you stock manafacturer warranty too. Check the date on the tyres.

[Otto]

There's no end to this. You risk losing the deal to someone else. Get a trusted mechanic to check out the bike for you and take a look at his comments and whether they're practical. Or negotiate a deal with them saying they'll cover failure of these wear and tear parts and consumables for a certain time period based on an agreed amount of kms run.

Oh, and verify that the blessed side stand has been changed. There's an open recall on it. Otherwise the bike is a spectacular and reliable machine and you will be very happy.

[Satshan]

Originally Posted by 100Kmphormore

Not just examine, have them replace the brake pads and sprocket, this effectively brings your buying price to around 8.5L on road and you will have a fresh start. Replace the brake fluid to DOT 5.1 and the fork fluids as well as its been 14 months old, leaky fork seals is a big deal on USD fork setup apart from regular service which includes fresh engine oil. Get the extended warranty without fail and have them give it in writing that there have been no insurance claims or part replacements for being a test ride bike, I feel they should offer you stock manafacturer warranty too. Check the date on the tyres.

I examined the bike completely again, few days ago along with Triumph service Head Technician who handles their service Team. Pointed out every small detail on the bike as follows:

• Chain sprockets are in good condition, no wear observed

• Chain had minor rusting developed over it, and they agreed to clean the rust and and lubricate it during the General service.

• Checked the Radiator, it was in perfect condition.

• Examined the Tread of both Tyres, they have 2023 manufacturing and still have a good 10k kms life span left.

• Examined the Front Brake pads, removed them and found they could last upto 1500-2000 kms. They agreed to change to new ones. Rear brake pads looked in good shape.

• Battery condition was fine.

• The underbelly exhaust, pipes and Oil sump looked in perfect condition. No damage whatsoever.

• Clutch operation was working correctly. No issues found.

• As per the service technician, Brake Fluid will be topped up during the service and Fork fluid is not needed to be replaced unless any specific issues.

Dealer is already providing standard warranty of 2 years and I will surely go ahead with extended warranty as well.

Originally Posted by Otto

Get a trusted mechanic to check out the bike for you and take a look at his comments and whether they're practical. Or negotiate a deal with them saying they'll cover failure of these wear and tear parts and consumables for a certain time period based on an agreed amount of kms run.

Oh, and verify that the blessed side stand has been changed. There's an open recall on it. Otherwise the bike is a spectacular and reliable machine and you will be very happy.

Yes, I will certainly show the bike to a trusted mechanic just to get his observations. As per the dealer, they have given the discount of 2.40 lacs based on the as-is condition of the bike. My observations mentioned above will be taken care by their service Team and a complete service is promised before delivery of the bike. Also, wear and tear parts will be covered as per owner manual and standard warranty terms and conditions (similar to a new bike).

[raja_ys]

Point to point reply marked in “ “.:-

I visited Triumph dealer in Pune last week as I was looking to upgrade to a Trident 660. The dealership said that they all of the bikes out of stock but they have a Trident Tiger Sport 660 Test bike available for sale.

“If a bike is out of stock it means either there is going to be a facelift launch or the bike is to be discontinued. In this case you would have got a good discount of maybe Rs 50-75k on a new bike itself before the stock clearance. Also keep in mind that for older generation model or to be discounted model the resale will get badly affected in case of this Triumph 660 version.”


The dealership was offering a flat discount of 2 lacs on the On-road price. (11.42 lacs OTR).

“Bikes like the Triumph 660 would anyways be down by 20% in the premium used market for an 1-5-2 year old model, and it would be better than taking a risk on a test ride bike. You would sure get well maintained bikes too.”


They offered me a Test Ride of the Test bike. Ride and Handling was similar to new bike.

“Personally would never look purchasing a test ride bike without getting it checked by an expert technician or a friendly experienced rider unless I am competent enough to judge a bike in just one ride”

I am now skeptical whether I made the right decision mainly since the Manfacturing date is in Oct 2023 and Registration date will be March 2025. (big gap which can impact the sale of the bike in the future).

“Nothing much can be done now since you have already put in an advance unless you are willing to forgo the advance and back out or maybe the dealer can adjust this advance on a new bike. If you like the bike get it checked by some expert before you take the final plunge as it would be better at this stage to get out with less damage. Irrespective of what price you bought the bike, the resale will be down as per the model year of 2023. Only some specific bikes like the Hayabusa, ZX6R at one time, and most Honda’s retain good resale value. Plus Triumph is not known for excellent service. For total peace of mind would suggest considering a shift towards Honda CBR650R. If no option go ahead and enjoy riding and ride safe.”