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Ducati unveiled a major update to their sports tourer today - with the SuperSport 950.



Styling sees a massive change with inspiration taken from the Panigale V4.





Powered by an Euro 5 compliant 937 cm3 Testastretta 11° engine producing 110 hp at 9,000 rpm and 93 Nm at 6,500 rpm.

The twin-cylinder Ducati Testastretta 11° engine develops a full and full-bodied torque curve over the entire range of use, for an always prompt response to any touch of the throttle, a fundamental feature for a motorcycle with a mainly road use.

At 3,500 rpm, 80% of maximum torque is already available, and as the rpm increases the torque value grows decisively and linearly, reaching a peak of 93 Nm at 6,500 rpm. After this threshold, the torque curve gradually decreases, remaining at a value above 90% up to 9,000 rpm, the speed at which the maximum power of 110 hp is delivered.

The electronic package of the SuperSport 950 consists of:

• ABS Cornering Bosch
• Ducati Traction Control (DTC) EVO
• Ducati Quick Shift (DQS) up/down EVO
• Ducati Wheelie Control (DWC) EVO, standard on all versions

The instrumentation of the SuperSport 950 family includes a 4.3'' full-TFT display. The TFT dashboard is designed to display information from the Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) which, after connecting your smartphone to the bike via Bluetooth technology, allows you to manage certain functions by means of buttons on the handlebar.

The new SuperSport 950 is equipped with a trellis frame that uses the engine as a structural element of the chassis, having a curb weight of 210 kg, 1 kg. less than the first SuperSport.





The front is equipped with a 43 mm diameter Marzocchi fork, fully adjustable in hydraulics and preload. The rear has a Sachs shock absorber, fixed to the vertical cylinder on one side and to the single arm on the other, with adjustment of spring preload and hydraulic brake in extension.

The SuperSport 950 S is equipped with refined, multi-adjustable Öhlins suspension. At the front there is a fork with 48 mm diameter stanchions, with TiN treatment for maximum smoothness, and at the rear an Öhlins monoshock, fully adjustable, with integrated gas tank.

The chassis equipment of both versions can be completed with an adjustable Öhlins steering damper. The rims fit the 120/70 ZR 17 Pirelli Diablo Rosso® III at the front and 180/55 ZR 17 at the rear. At the front there are Brembo M4-32 monobloc radial calipers that act on two 320 mm diameter discs, driven by a Brembo self-bleeding radial pump with separate tank and adjustable lever.

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The previous generation of the SuperSport and the SuperSport S was available on sale in India at Rs. 12.08 lakh and Rs. 13.39 lakh (ex-showroom, India) respectively.

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Ducati supersport 950 incoming as per Ducati India instagram reel.
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Date - 09/09/2021

[AtheK]

Now Launched at 13,49, 000 for Supersport 950 and 15,49,000 for Supersport S.

The more premium model, which benefits from fully-adjustable Ohlins suspension setup and a passenger seat cover, has been priced at Rs 15.49 lakh. The base model, on the other hand, is available at Rs 13.49 lakh (both ex-showroom, India). Unlike the S variant, the standard Supersport 950 uses 43mm USD Marzocchi front forks and a Sachs mono-shock at the back.

The mechanical specifications on both variants include a BS6-compliant 937cc, L-twin cylinder, liquid-cooled engine that produces 108.6bhp of power at 9,000rpm and 93Nm of peak torque at 6,500rpm. The motor is linked to a six-speed gearbox.

Standard features on both variants include an LED headlight, a 4.3-inch full-TFT display, a single-sided swingarm, raised handlebars, revised seat, three-spoke 'Y' aluminium wheels, and the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3 tyres. The styling cues on the BS6 model include an updated headlight design, a sportier fairing, a muscular fuel tank, a tall windscreen, rear-view mirror integrated front turn indicators, a step-up saddle, and a twin-pod exhaust outlet.

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[Nilesh5417]

INR18.5k / bhp - is this the slowest almost litre class (super) sports or what? Not sure what is so super besides the price. Makes Honda seem VFM.

[GoBlue]

Originally Posted by Nilesh5417

INR18.5k / bhp - is this the slowest almost litre class (super) sports or what? Not sure what is so super besides the price. Makes Honda seem VFM.

Ducati pricing has always been eccentric to say the least. Even the current Panigale V2 is ridiculously priced (for what it offers vs the competition).

The only Ducatis that are sensibly priced IMO, are the Multistrada 950S and Multistrada V4 base variant.

[no_fear]

Originally Posted by Nilesh5417

INR18.5k / bhp - is this the slowest almost litre class (super) sports or what? Not sure what is so super besides the price. Makes Honda seem VFM.

Can I ask why is Honda VFM. The offerings by Honda are also quite ridiculous price wise. All of it's 1000cc bikes are priced above 13 lacs. The only VFM I see is Kawasaki Ninja 1000 at 11 lacs for 140hp.

[Nilesh5417]

Originally Posted by no_fear

Can I ask why is Honda VFM. The offerings by Honda are also quite ridiculous price wise. All of it's 1000cc bikes are priced above 13 lacs. The only VFM I see is Kawasaki Ninja 1000 at 11 lacs for 140hp.

The CBR1000RR is 17ish ex I think and makes 175+bhp . That's what came to my mind when I saw 15.5 ex.

Kawa still remains VFM. The new ZX10R is 50grand cheaper ex and makes more than the CBR?

Prices are really hitting the ridiculous territory with each new launch.

[quickdraw]

Originally Posted by Nilesh5417

INR18.5k / bhp - is this the slowest almost litre class (super) sports or what? Not sure what is so super besides the price. Makes Honda seem VFM.

This is not a litre class track weapon. It’s a sports bike for the road. Measuring cost per bhp is not how we should be judging motorcycles.

[bf1983]

Originally Posted by Nilesh5417

The CBR1000RR is 17ish ex I think and makes 175+bhp . That's what came to my mind when I saw 15.5 ex.

Kawa still remains VFM. The new ZX10R is 50grand cheaper ex and makes more than the CBR?

Prices are really hitting the ridiculous territory with each new launch.

The Honda CBR1000RR isn't available in India anymore. Only the 1000RR-R at a mouth watering price.

The Ducati is expensive but compared to the Aprilia RS660 it seems downright VFM.

The Zx10r is a track monster and the new BS6 version has even more commited ergonomics than its predecessors. The Super Sport being a sports tourer has far more relaxed ergonomics and is well suited for long rides on well paved highways.

The real competition to the Zx10r is the Panigale v2 at 17.5 lakhs ex showroom. The Panigale is down on power but it's a track bike like the Zx10r.

[Nilesh5417]

Originally Posted by bf1983

The Ducati is expensive but compared to the Aprilia RS660 it seems downright VFM.

The real competition to the Zx10r is the Panigale v2 at 17.5 lakhs ex showroom. The Panigale is down on power but it's a track bike like the Zx10r.

Thanks - didn't remember the V2 but now I don't need to quote any other brand. Ducati themselves are making the price of the supersport look ridiculous. My Monster seems like a steal now!

But seriously, this pricing is ADV territory and Ducati probably already knows the supersport is going to be niche.

And as for the Aprilia, we won't be spotting many anyway.

[neil.jericho]

The real world competition for the Ducati Supersport 950 is the excellent Kawasaki Ninja 1000. Both bikes are versatile sports-tourers that adopt different strategies to satisfy the balance between sport and touring.

The ex-showroom price for the Ninja 1000 is Rs 11.40 lakhs. The base Ducati is a good Rs 2 L more, just on the ex-showroom price.

The Supersport 950 will be a very tough sell in the Indian market.

[GoBlue]

Originally Posted by bf1983

The real competition to the Zx10r is the Panigale v2 at 17.5 lakhs ex showroom. The Panigale is down on power but it's a track bike like the Zx10r.

The aesthetics/design of the Panigale V2 is definitely far better than the ZX-10R. There will be buyers who could have individual perspectives where value of the Ducati brand name/Panigale V2 design language may justify this 17.5l ex-showroom / 22.5l OTR (MH) sticker price.

Personally, I find the Panigale V2’s price-point totally ridiculous.

With a budget of 22-25l OTR, there are many competent products to chose from which are far more aspirational than the Panigale V2, like the ZX-10R, Hayabusa, Speed Triple 1200 RS, S1000RR and the Ducati Streetfighter V4.

We in MH are so far away from any decent track (either down south or up north) that buying a bike purely for track use is not worth the expense. It will be ridden primarily on the street, with an occasional track day when schedule/time permits.

The Panigale V2 is not a complete product. It’s clattery unrefined engine, ridiculous heating characteristics, sketchy slow speed behaviour and expensive valve clearance services together signify shoddy engineering (if we choose fairly to call a spade a spade). This is sometimes also referred to as “character”, a term coined by smart Ducati marketers.

The Supersport shares these attributes of the Panigale V2.

In all fairness, we can certainly criticise the new ZX-10R for its substandard aesthetics, yes Kawasaki did a terrible job when it came to putting out a pleasing design. But it excels in every other department when one starts riding, which is far more important (atleast for me).

To put that into perspective, a Ducati Supersport costing MORE THAN a ZX-10R indicates that Ducati is an illusion that there are folks willing to pay this kind of money purely for the brand name, ignoring competent alternatives (like the Ninja 1000). Not a smart strategy, to say the least.

[no_fear]

I think a lot of the forum members are comparing apples to oranges. Neil hit the nail on the head stating correctly that the Supersport is a sports tourer. It is based on the Hypermotard chassis, uses the detuned V twin engine and is not a sports bike in any way.

The 1000cc sports tourer offerings in India are fairly limited and except for the Ninja 1000, I do not see many alternatives.

@ GoBlue - while I agree with the pricing absurdity of Ducati, I will differ on build quality and engineering. Ducati's sketchy build quality in the 80s and 90s are history. Their current product offerings are rock solid and they can take the abuse and hurdles thrown by any rider.

The V2 and Supersport are two very different bikes. The latter is for the road, the former is a track weapon. Unfortunately, the pricing is absurd for both. If the Supersport pricing was lowered by 2 lacs, it would be an interesting proposition. The V2 is in no man's land.

[GoBlue]

Originally Posted by no_fear

@ GoBlue - while I agree with the pricing absurdity of Ducati, I will differ on build quality and engineering. Ducati's sketchy build quality in the 80s and 90s are history. Their current product offerings are rock solid and they can take the abuse and hurdles thrown by any rider.

Hello, no_fear.

I was speaking only about attributes that are relevant to the riding experience (lack of refinement, abnormal heating, low speed juddering), not commenting on reliability/longevity.

Having ridden the BS4 Supersport prior, it did not feel like the "gourmet experience" that one expects after having (over?) paid a substantial asking price. For example, if Ducati plans on charging 20l OTR for the 2021 Supersport S, wonder if it's really a scale or two better than the ZX-10R/Speed Triple 1200 RS/Hayabusa (similar price points).

From what I recollect, there was nothing noteworthy or exceptional about that engine/ride experience, atleast with the BS4 Supersport model.

The ZX-10R & Speed Triple 1200 RS may not be valid comparisons with the Supersport S from a use-case perspective, however the Hayabusa is. Having said that, all of these bikes are relevant comparisons simply due to the price-point of the Ducati Supersport S (20L OTR in MH). All of the other bikes offer exceptional/superior engines (without even going into comparisons of power output) with a scale or two higher refinement/aspiration quotient.

Originally Posted by no_fear

The V2 and Supersport are two very different bikes....
The V2 is in no man's land.

In MH, the OTR of 2021 Ninja 1000 is LESS THAN the ex-showroom of 2021 Supersport (base model).
It seems like the 2021 Supersport/S is in no man's land too, something that it has in common with the Panigale V2.

[AtheK]

Ducati pricing has always been in no man land, nothing new with this one too. While I am not a huge fan of supersport myself, ducati knows what they are doing. It is eventually an aspirational brand, and pricing reflects the same, I am sure they are not even considering a number game here.

For every 10 Ninja 1000 (the only right bike to compare this with) you will have just one supersport sold, and the customer who buys it knows very well about the Ninja 1000 in the market, just that he probably wants more exclusivity and obviously smitten by the brand.

As no_fear said that no point in comparing oranges and apples, if you are looking for a more desirable bike you will buy a supersport and if you are looking for a more bang for your buck you will buy supersport.