Yamaha to bring R1, MT-01 superbikes: Edit: Now launched at 10.5 lakhs

SohailPistawala · 19th June 2007, 10:48

We can get more news from Tectrac, since he is from the actual Yamaha Tuner Company. What say guys??? can anybody contact him...

veyron1 · 19th June 2007, 19:14

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Originally Posted by BunnyPunia

which means a landing price of almost 10Lacs here,

Unlikely. Yamaha would be smart to not go the CBU route and bring in the bikes as SKD's at least; which would attract 25% duty (per kit) as opposed to 156% for CBU.

Wait & watch.

hondadude · 19th June 2007, 21:41

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Originally Posted by veyron1

Unlikely. Yamaha would be smart to not go the CBU route and bring in the bikes as SKD's at least; which would attract 25% duty (per kit) as opposed to 156% for CBU.

Wait & watch.

Would the bikes need to be homologated if Yamaha is bringing them as SKD? For some reason I thought that homologation is applicable only to CBUs.

v1p3r · 20th June 2007, 00:24

Good question on the homologation, though someone has said they're already testing the R1 in India.

veyron1 · 21st June 2007, 17:55

All cars/bikes have to undergo homologation before official launch. The advantage in case of SKD's are that only a batch of the intended sales/prod model have to go through ARAI testing. If the test mules pass homologation, the manufacturer can sell the bikes on a regular basis...individual testing not required...

Another plus is that the R1 could come in significantly cheaper...it retails for about 11K USD OTR, which means cheaper than 6L, if Yamaha plays its card right; else, the company wouldn't have anything additional to offer from our usual importers besides warranty...and loyalty is a big factor in this niche market...

dudeball2002 · 21st June 2007, 19:47

i heard that they were charging harley davidson around 60% duty..and with sum special tax the total amount of tax and duty comes to 100%..so i reckon its the same for yamaha..so the bike should be otr for around 11 with dealer backup

sammyboy · 22nd June 2007, 01:41

I hope not man , 11 l is atleast 4 times what I can afford .

hondadude · 22nd June 2007, 11:17

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Originally Posted by veyron1

All cars/bikes have to undergo homologation before official launch. The advantage in case of SKD's are that only a batch of the intended sales/prod model have to go through ARAI testing. If the test mules pass homologation, the manufacturer can sell the bikes on a regular basis...individual testing not required...

That's good input. Thanks for sharing that.

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Another plus is that the R1 could come in significantly cheaper...it retails for about 11K USD OTR, which means cheaper than 6L, if Yamaha plays its card right; else, the company wouldn't have anything additional to offer from our usual importers besides warranty...and loyalty is a big factor in this niche market...

I sincerely hope that they bring R1 in as SKD as opposed to CBU. Even if they bring it in as CBU, I see the following Pros of buying it from company as opposed to importers

- Peace of mind. You know you are getting a brand new bike and nobody is cheating you
- Warranty
- Ability to get repairs done from company

I would think that the above advantages are significant enough to buy it from company as opposed to importers but then I have never ventured in this arena (of owning a superbike) so I don't really know how things work there.

SohailPistawala · 22nd June 2007, 11:36

Hondadude: your right on with the points, but i guess that would only matter firstly if it is priced right. If your getting your bike cheaper from the importer than the company say a difference of about a 50k or 75k or even a Lakh, then one still be buying form the company.

new bike : Uh, that point is true, cos the so called importers or dealers in our country would surely look to make money and try to sell you a little used bike as a new bike, but yeah there are differences in dealers too. Some would want customer satisfaction rather than only filling pockets.

A.S.S.: we have good mechanics by whom our superbikes swear by.(Example Johnny Uncle), who can give us a good service.

I think everything will fall in place only if Yamaha Puts the Right Sale price for their Bikes. What say?

Correct me if i am wrong PLEASE

iraghava · 22nd June 2007, 11:37

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Originally Posted by hondadude

- Ability to get repairs done from company

Don't count on it, for proof ask anyone who bought an Aquila/Comet from Kinetic thinking they'll get good service & easy spares. They got none

There will be very few Mechanics/Service Centres trained to deal in such bikes & they'll have very few spares in stock, most of the stuff will have to be ordered on demand. Atleast that's what has happened till now, maybe Yamaha can change this trend but it's an unlikely scenario.

IronWolf · 24th June 2007, 16:31

Even the 600cc R6 from Yamaha is all I have been asking for.

The pricing should be under 3L if they want to have any decent sales... however thats not going to happen... Its gonna be about 6-6.5L for sure .

Any confirmed reports what the R1 would be priced at?

As for service, that should be least of your worries... for those of you going to put over 5L on a bike... just go to your local > Joes Garage >> Uncle Johnnies >> or pathindhars...

Meaning every big city has a good garage which can take care of these superbikes, they even have contacts in bangkok to get spares for reasonable rates.

Superbikers am I right?

mobike008 · 24th June 2007, 19:36

This is really an awesome news. The iconic R1 to be launched in india to resurrect yahama's image. Any news on when it start selling and for how much as we all can only guess it sounds hard that it will be available for anything less than 6L

IronWolf · 25th June 2007, 00:47

Keep an eye out for the Yamaha ad with the red and white R1 and the Black MT-01.... They even started advertising.. so could be within 6 months..

If anyone of you saw my intro into t-bhp.. you would have seen the R1 on the dream list and any 600+ bike on the Wanted list...

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/introd...bie-alert.html

Time to start saving for the R1 boys.

Rtech · 25th June 2007, 09:32

I heard something which I hope, really hope, is not true. The official litre class bikes will sell for a price close to 14 lakhs!

....bah!

kurmist · 25th June 2007, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Rtech

I heard something which I hope, really hope, is not true. The official litre class bikes will sell for a price close to 14 lakhs!

....bah!

If this is indeed true (and like Rtech, I pray that it isn't) then the Funduro (F650) episode will most likely repeat itself......lacklustre sales.

Ideally, as a potential buyer, if an R1 were to cost me Rs. 8 - 9 lakhs in the "imports" (grey) market (dont forget, that there is a sizeable mark-up or premium there too), then I should not mind paying a premium of max. 15 - 20% over that price.....for the peace of mind related to papers, *** and availability of finance / spares.

19th June 2007, 10:48	#16
SohailPistawala BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 434 Thanked: 25 Times	We can get more news from Tectrac, since he is from the actual Yamaha Tuner Company. What say guys??? can anybody contact him...
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20th June 2007, 00:24	#19
v1p3r Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: BLR / DXB / LON Posts: 5,334 Thanked: 6,896 Times View My Garage	Good question on the homologation, though someone has said they're already testing the R1 in India.
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21st June 2007, 17:55	#20
veyron1 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,424 Thanked: 52 Times View My Garage	All cars/bikes have to undergo homologation before official launch. The advantage in case of SKD's are that only a batch of the intended sales/prod model have to go through ARAI testing. If the test mules pass homologation, the manufacturer can sell the bikes on a regular basis...individual testing not required... Another plus is that the R1 could come in significantly cheaper...it retails for about 11K USD OTR, which means cheaper than 6L, if Yamaha plays its card right; else, the company wouldn't have anything additional to offer from our usual importers besides warranty...and loyalty is a big factor in this niche market...
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21st June 2007, 19:47	#21
dudeball2002 Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Times	i heard that they were charging harley davidson around 60% duty..and with sum special tax the total amount of tax and duty comes to 100%..so i reckon its the same for yamaha..so the bike should be otr for around 11 with dealer backup
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22nd June 2007, 01:41	#22
sammyboy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ggn/Dehradun Posts: 1,842 Thanked: 521 Times View My Garage	I hope not man , 11 l is atleast 4 times what I can afford .
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22nd June 2007, 11:36	#24
SohailPistawala BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 434 Thanked: 25 Times	Hondadude: your right on with the points, but i guess that would only matter firstly if it is priced right. If your getting your bike cheaper from the importer than the company say a difference of about a 50k or 75k or even a Lakh, then one still be buying form the company. new bike : Uh, that point is true, cos the so called importers or dealers in our country would surely look to make money and try to sell you a little used bike as a new bike, but yeah there are differences in dealers too. Some would want customer satisfaction rather than only filling pockets. A.S.S.: we have good mechanics by whom our superbikes swear by.(Example Johnny Uncle), who can give us a good service. I think everything will fall in place only if Yamaha Puts the Right Sale price for their Bikes. What say? Correct me if i am wrong PLEASE
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24th June 2007, 16:31	#26
IronWolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Benga-loo-ru Posts: 1,569 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage	Even the 600cc R6 from Yamaha is all I have been asking for. The pricing should be under 3L if they want to have any decent sales... however thats not going to happen... Its gonna be about 6-6.5L for sure . Any confirmed reports what the R1 would be priced at? As for service, that should be least of your worries... for those of you going to put over 5L on a bike... just go to your local > Joes Garage >> Uncle Johnnies >> or pathindhars... Meaning every big city has a good garage which can take care of these superbikes, they even have contacts in bangkok to get spares for reasonable rates. Superbikers am I right?
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24th June 2007, 19:36	#27
mobike008 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 11,694 Thanked: 14,783 Times View My Garage	This is really an awesome news. The iconic R1 to be launched in india to resurrect yahama's image. Any news on when it start selling and for how much as we all can only guess it sounds hard that it will be available for anything less than 6L
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25th June 2007, 00:47	#28
IronWolf Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Benga-loo-ru Posts: 1,569 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage	Keep an eye out for the Yamaha ad with the red and white R1 and the Black MT-01.... They even started advertising.. so could be within 6 months.. If anyone of you saw my intro into t-bhp.. you would have seen the R1 on the dream list and any 600+ bike on the Wanted list... http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/introd...bie-alert.html Time to start saving for the R1 boys.
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25th June 2007, 09:32	#29
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	I heard something which I hope, really hope, is not true. The official litre class bikes will sell for a price close to 14 lakhs! ....bah!
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