How to Buy and live with a Superbike in India

Rtech · 7th August 2007, 12:06

umm guys, there is a thread to discuss shoes. Lets not stray off here please.

Link: The Shoe thread

SohailPistawala · 7th August 2007, 14:48

Rtech: Yo maan sowie my mistake,

just read your post once again.... .

to go off topic about the shoe thingy

ram_hyundai · 6th November 2007, 15:23

when one is ignorant about a subject and has no one to help arround with it he leaves the subject to itself,and when he sees an article like this about the same subject he is rejuvanated and his pulse start racing .thanks a million on this r-tech.

raftaar · 6th November 2007, 23:23

my .50p! have had the pleasure of riding the R1. also been on it as a pillion. while riding a bike of this calibre...you'll not be able to go above 3rd very many times. you gotta get used to the initial accelaration or else... if you have a bad back...forget it...bad idea to own a bike like this.
as a pillion. you'll need guts. stay away from the guy who likes to show off. you'll be the first one to get hurt.

phamilyman · 12th November 2007, 11:07

Raftaar,

My friends who own the R1 and 10R in delhi, have done twisties like Mt Abu, doing 45 in 6th comfortably, owing to the high torque. So they said - is it just them, or am I missing something here?

Ofc, they also said that these beasts can do 100-120 in first gear itself, but that's another story (iirc that is).

and yes, as a pillion - your biceps get more workout in 20 mins than in an hour at the gym - self exp

Rtech · 12th November 2007, 11:15

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My friends who own the R1 and 10R in delhi, have done twisties like Mt Abu, doing 45 in 6th comfortably, owing to the high torque. So they said - is it just them, or am I missing something here?

well, modern liter bikes put out great torque/bhp figures at 5/6K rpm's, so yes, it would be possible (I don't know how twisty the roads there are though), but why would they do that unless they really wanted to take it easy and enjoy the view.

too low a speed/rpm and too high a gear creates a lot of driveline lash which is not good for anything.

prabhuav · 12th November 2007, 12:08

I seriously doubt the abitlity of an R1 to do 45 on 6th.. The RPM will almost bet be at idling. Maybe a high torque vtwin, but definitely not a high revving inline four

Rtech · 12th November 2007, 12:13

Maybe he meant 45mph!

prabhuav · 12th November 2007, 12:22

At 2k rpm my cb919, which has a tooth less on the front sprocket than stock does over that and is very very prone to lash.. On an R1 I would really doubt that..

raftaar · 13th November 2007, 19:26

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Originally Posted by phamilyman

Raftaar,

My friends who own the R1 and 10R in delhi, have done twisties like Mt Abu, doing 45 in 6th comfortably, owing to the high torque. So they said - is it just them, or am I missing something here?

Ofc, they also said that these beasts can do 100-120 in first gear itself, but that's another story (iirc that is).

and yes, as a pillion - your biceps get more workout in 20 mins than in an hour at the gym - self exp

i guess the previous posts have also borne out what i have practically felt.

ken cool · 13th November 2007, 20:33

I am probably the person that you guys are talking about. I had gone to Mt Abu on my R1 with my friend who was riding the 10R. We had done it to try out long distance riding on Sbks and at the same time practise some leaning with these bikes. This happened a year ago. Part of our run, till Jaipur actually was also telecast on CNN IBN.
As for High gear low speed runs, I was just trying to see how low I could go and then load the engine by accelerating without knocking. It turned out pretty ok at around 46-47 km/h on 6th, but I wouldnt be doing it on a regular basis.
And as for scenery is concerned, no, I was not riding slow for the scenery. It was at 2300 hours, not much scenery to talk about. I was trying to go as fast as I could, around 60-ish on 5th or so... couldnt go any faster coz I am not talented or gifted enough I guess.
Anyone want to read accounts of Sbk touring can visit here:
kencool

Rtech · 14th November 2007, 10:45

hey ken. Welcome to the forum. Hope to see you posting a bit more. Just browsed through your blog and its very nicely written. You guys up North have some wonderful riding roads! Deserts on one side, mountains on the other! Thats what I call spoilt for choice.

Do post up some more on your experiences with living with an R1.

prabhuav · 14th November 2007, 14:09

I have always wondered if such high octane levels are needed in bike engines. In the US the recommendation is only for 87.

Rtech · 14th November 2007, 14:26

True there Prabhu. though the newer bikes state a minimum of 91 - 93 octane usually. However, in India, the added benefit of running the higher octane would, theoretically/hopefully, mean that you get fuel which is of better quality and less likely to be tampered with.

However, we still don't have pure 97 octane here. only stuff that has been treated with octane boosters/cleaner to get it to around the 97 mark.

Personally, I run 91 IOC Premium with a mix of pure 93 IOC whenever I can find it. Bike has no issues except the valve gumming which i mentioned in my other thread. But that happens on any car/bike here no matter that fuel we use.

nitrous · 14th November 2007, 20:08

A while ago I noticed a sticker on a Repsol 1000RR which said "Use 95 octane and above only".

7th August 2007, 12:06	#91
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	umm guys, there is a thread to discuss shoes. Lets not stray off here please. Link: The Shoe thread
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7th August 2007, 14:48	#92
SohailPistawala BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 434 Thanked: 25 Times	Rtech: Yo maan sowie my mistake, just read your post once again.... . to go off topic about the shoe thingy
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6th November 2007, 15:23	#93
ram_hyundai Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calicut ,trisur Posts: 2,020 Thanked: 53 Times View My Garage	when one is ignorant about a subject and has no one to help arround with it he leaves the subject to itself,and when he sees an article like this about the same subject he is rejuvanated and his pulse start racing .thanks a million on this r-tech.
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6th November 2007, 23:23	#94
raftaar BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: bangalore Posts: 183 Thanked: 5 Times	my .50p! have had the pleasure of riding the R1. also been on it as a pillion. while riding a bike of this calibre...you'll not be able to go above 3rd very many times. you gotta get used to the initial accelaration or else... if you have a bad back...forget it...bad idea to own a bike like this. as a pillion. you'll need guts. stay away from the guy who likes to show off. you'll be the first one to get hurt.
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12th November 2007, 11:07	#95
phamilyman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 5,968 Thanked: 4,642 Times	Raftaar, My friends who own the R1 and 10R in delhi, have done twisties like Mt Abu, doing 45 in 6th comfortably, owing to the high torque. So they said - is it just them, or am I missing something here? Ofc, they also said that these beasts can do 100-120 in first gear itself, but that's another story (iirc that is). and yes, as a pillion - your biceps get more workout in 20 mins than in an hour at the gym - self exp
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12th November 2007, 12:08	#97
prabhuav BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 672 Thanked: 128 Times View My Garage	Low speed in High gear I seriously doubt the abitlity of an R1 to do 45 on 6th.. The RPM will almost bet be at idling. Maybe a high torque vtwin, but definitely not a high revving inline four
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12th November 2007, 12:13	#98
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	Maybe he meant 45mph!
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12th November 2007, 12:22	#99
prabhuav BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 672 Thanked: 128 Times View My Garage	Chances are low At 2k rpm my cb919, which has a tooth less on the front sprocket than stock does over that and is very very prone to lash.. On an R1 I would really doubt that..
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13th November 2007, 20:33	#101
ken cool Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2 Thanked: 0 Times	I am probably the person that you guys are talking about. I had gone to Mt Abu on my R1 with my friend who was riding the 10R. We had done it to try out long distance riding on Sbks and at the same time practise some leaning with these bikes. This happened a year ago. Part of our run, till Jaipur actually was also telecast on CNN IBN. As for High gear low speed runs, I was just trying to see how low I could go and then load the engine by accelerating without knocking. It turned out pretty ok at around 46-47 km/h on 6th, but I wouldnt be doing it on a regular basis. And as for scenery is concerned, no, I was not riding slow for the scenery. It was at 2300 hours, not much scenery to talk about. I was trying to go as fast as I could, around 60-ish on 5th or so... couldnt go any faster coz I am not talented or gifted enough I guess. Anyone want to read accounts of Sbk touring can visit here: kencool
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14th November 2007, 10:45	#102
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	hey ken. Welcome to the forum. Hope to see you posting a bit more. Just browsed through your blog and its very nicely written. You guys up North have some wonderful riding roads! Deserts on one side, mountains on the other! Thats what I call spoilt for choice. Do post up some more on your experiences with living with an R1.
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14th November 2007, 14:09	#103
prabhuav BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 672 Thanked: 128 Times View My Garage	Is 97 octane really needed? I have always wondered if such high octane levels are needed in bike engines. In the US the recommendation is only for 87.
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14th November 2007, 14:26	#104
Rtech Team-BHP Support Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,770 Thanked: 359 Times View My Garage	True there Prabhu. though the newer bikes state a minimum of 91 - 93 octane usually. However, in India, the added benefit of running the higher octane would, theoretically/hopefully, mean that you get fuel which is of better quality and less likely to be tampered with. However, we still don't have pure 97 octane here. only stuff that has been treated with octane boosters/cleaner to get it to around the 97 mark. Personally, I run 91 IOC Premium with a mix of pure 93 IOC whenever I can find it. Bike has no issues except the valve gumming which i mentioned in my other thread. But that happens on any car/bike here no matter that fuel we use.
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14th November 2007, 20:08	#105
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	A while ago I noticed a sticker on a Repsol 1000RR which said "Use 95 octane and above only".
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