ducati in india?

straight6 · 24th April 2008, 20:00

Not only are they expensive to buy, they are expensive to run as well with parts being extremely expensive. Besides, the Italian bikes are not even reliable after paying that much. Oh, and they are uncomfortable and I'm not really a fan of fast revving V-Twin engine sounds.

Nitin · 24th April 2008, 20:11

The only thing I like about Ducati bikes is that 'stealth-like' look. Sharp features,and an aggressive stance.

straight6 · 24th April 2008, 20:25

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Originally Posted by Nitin

The only thing I like about Ducati bikes is that 'stealth-like' look. Sharp features,and an aggressive stance.

No doubt that they are some of the prettiest bikes out there, but, that's it.

Nitin · 24th April 2008, 20:37

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Originally Posted by straight6

No doubt that they are some of the prettiest bikes out there, but, that's it.

Absolutely! The 998 is probably my all time favorite.
OT: From certain angles,I see the lines of some Ducati bikes on my SV650.

highwayblaze · 24th April 2008, 21:32

On the other hand I love em'

I love ducati's and aprilia's. I agree though that they're expensive to maintain and all but a lot of it has to do with the character and desirability i guess. i hope my next bike is a ducati monster or an aprilia tuono.

netchef · 25th April 2008, 10:53

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Originally Posted by Nitin

Absolutely! The 998 is probably my all time favorite.
OT: From certain angles,I see the lines of some Ducati bikes on my SV650.

Sir, I don't think you stray too far from the truth of the matter. IMO there's more to sheer serendipity in the traces of a Duke's DNA you see in your machine.
Then Hyosung went and cloned the clone so to speak, and their 'baby-Duke' Comet and the cruiser version (can't get the name) 250 V-twin sold in India is fruit of those aspirational loins.

straight6 · 25th April 2008, 11:43

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Originally Posted by netchef

Sir, I don't think you stray too far from the truth of the matter. IMO there's more to sheer serendipity in the traces of a Duke's DNA you see in your machine.
Then Hyosung went and cloned the clone so to speak, and their 'baby-Duke' Comet and the cruiser version (can't get the name) 250 V-twin sold in India is fruit of those aspirational loins.

The 250 cruiser was called 'Aquilla'.

netchef · 25th April 2008, 16:47

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Originally Posted by straight6

The 250 cruiser was called 'Aquilla'.

Ah, super. Thanks. You saved my bacon or something.
Darned memory needs reformatting.

Nitin · 25th April 2008, 20:22

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Originally Posted by netchef

Sir, I don't think you stray too far from the truth of the matter. IMO there's more to sheer serendipity in the traces of a Duke's DNA you see in your machine.
Then Hyosung went and cloned the clone so to speak, and their 'baby-Duke' Comet and the cruiser version (can't get the name) 250 V-twin sold in India is fruit of those aspirational loins.

Makes perfect sense,Rajeev. What goes around,comes around. Thats more like the policy these days,where Mr X comes up with something,and then Mr A, Mr G and Mr anywho comes up with similar designs & technical specs.
Evolution,if I may say so. Not huge leaps in technology,but small enough to make an impact in every segment. The Comet & Aquila are both good bikes,IMO.

VIPracing · 26th April 2008, 15:50

I do understand that you pay an import duty for vehicles not manufactured in India (personally I think it’s not correct because we do not pay so big duty for goods from India), but also the Jap they are imported? Or not?
So what the matter that Ducati is so expensive compare to Jap when in Europe the difference is not that big?

Here some price at the public for the bike:

Aprilia RSV 1000 R '06- (Kw) 105.24 -Cc 997.6 -
(€) 14.400,00
Benelli Tornado 1130- (Kw) 120 - Cc 1.130 - (€) 14.800,00
Bimota DB5 - (Kw) 67.7 - Cc 992 - (€) 21.000,00
BMW R 1200 S - (Kw) 90 - Cc 1.170 - (€) 13.291,00
Buell 1125 R - (Kw) 109 - (Kw) 109 - (€) 12.995,00
Ducati 1098 - (Kw) 119.3 - Cc 1.099 - (€) 17.000,00
Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R '08 - (Kw) 138.3 - Cc 998 -
(€) 13.700,00
MV Agusta F4 1000 S 1+1 - (Kw) 122 - Cc 998 -
(€) 19.380,00
Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K7 - (Kw) 136.1 - Cc 999 -
(€) 13.800,00
Yamaha R1 '07 - (Kw) 132.5 - Cc 998 - (€) 14.014,00
Ducati Monster S4R - (Kw) 83.4 - Cc 996 - (€) 12.500,00

netchef · 28th April 2008, 10:55

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Originally Posted by Nitin

Makes perfect sense,Rajeev. What goes around,comes around. Thats more like the policy these days,where Mr X comes up with something,and then Mr A, Mr G and Mr anywho comes up with similar designs & technical specs.
Evolution,if I may say so. Not huge leaps in technology,but small enough to make an impact in every segment. The Comet & Aquila are both good bikes,IMO.

Nitin: very true. Even the Japs were cloning Brit iron when they first started out. I suppose it's the safe route of a tried and tested formula till your own momemtum and expertise kicks in.

dipen · 28th April 2008, 11:09

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Originally Posted by VIPracing

Aprilia RSV 1000 R '06- (Kw) 105.24 -Cc 997.6 -
(€) 14.400,00
Benelli Tornado 1130- (Kw) 120 - Cc 1.130 - (€) 14.800,00
Bimota DB5 - (Kw) 67.7 - Cc 992 - (€) 21.000,00
BMW R 1200 S - (Kw) 90 - Cc 1.170 - (€) 13.291,00
Buell 1125 R - (Kw) 109 - (Kw) 109 - (€) 12.995,00
Ducati 1098 - (Kw) 119.3 - Cc 1.099 - (€) 17.000,00
Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R '08 - (Kw) 138.3 - Cc 998 -
(€) 13.700,00
MV Agusta F4 1000 S 1+1 - (Kw) 122 - Cc 998 -
(€) 19.380,00
Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K7 - (Kw) 136.1 - Cc 999 -
(€) 13.800,00
Yamaha R1 '07 - (Kw) 132.5 - Cc 998 - (€) 14.014,00
Ducati Monster S4R - (Kw) 83.4 - Cc 996 - (€) 12.500,00

one should always consider USD prices for bikes and cars from Japan. Pounds and euros should be considered for cars and bikes manufactured in European prices.

Scooby STi · 28th April 2008, 22:35

I thought i'll include my 2 cents worth in this discussion...
I've had a Ducati 749 for a bit, the reason I bought it is because its narrower than the Japanese 600s because of the L-twin which makes it nimbler. It is sharper too in the handling department with some amazing intrinsic balance that built into the bike. Its much less manic than a 600 as well because its makes peak power at 10000 RPM rather than a dizzy 16000 RPM. Both these factors contribute to making it a much more usable bike on the street, the healthy dollop of torque does'nt hurt either.

Again, for the above reasons i'd have to say its a more sensible (or maybe I should say a less insane/suicidal) bike in India. Pray where in India can you wring out a 600 to its 16000RPM red-line? That's why my bike is going to be on ship bound for Bangalore in the next two weeks.

No, the Monster is not more expensive than an R1, I know for a fact that the 2008 Monster 696 is $8500 while the 2008 Suzuki GSX 600R is $9400 because I have two friends who put down deposits for these bikes last week.

highwayblaze · 28th April 2008, 22:47

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Originally Posted by Scooby STi

Again, for the above reasons i'd have to say its a more sensible (or maybe I should say a less insane/suicidal) bike in India. Pray where in India can you wring out a 600 to its 16000RPM red-line? That's why my bike is going to be on ship bound for Bangalore in the next two weeks.

i totally buy this

the similar explanation I apply to a 1000cc 4cyl as compared to a 600cc 4cyl where sometimes I felt that my gixxer 1000 was better compared to a 600 in city traffic.

Btw are you ananth's friend?

tsxei · 29th April 2008, 01:17

I don't know guys. I used to think that 4cyl 600's lack torque for city driving. But after riding one for some 8 months, I don't believe that. I do pretty good in the city without having to downshift or rev the hell out of it. I mean you don't need to be where the bike produces its peak torque to move some 500 odd pounds of weight including the rider.

Having said that, I wouldn't mind to own a Ducati at all. The new 696 is definitely hot as hell.

24th April 2008, 20:00	#46
straight6 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,548 Thanked: 296 Times	Not only are they expensive to buy, they are expensive to run as well with parts being extremely expensive. Besides, the Italian bikes are not even reliable after paying that much. Oh, and they are uncomfortable and I'm not really a fan of fast revving V-Twin engine sounds. Last edited by straight6 : 24th April 2008 at 20:02.
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24th April 2008, 20:11	#47
Nitin Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,294 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	The only thing I like about Ducati bikes is that 'stealth-like' look. Sharp features,and an aggressive stance.
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24th April 2008, 21:32	#50
highwayblaze BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicago/Mumbai/Pune Posts: 771 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	On the other hand I love em' I love ducati's and aprilia's. I agree though that they're expensive to maintain and all but a lot of it has to do with the character and desirability i guess. i hope my next bike is a ducati monster or an aprilia tuono.
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26th April 2008, 15:50	#55
VIPracing Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rimini Posts: 4 Thanked: 0 Times	Bikes price I do understand that you pay an import duty for vehicles not manufactured in India (personally I think it’s not correct because we do not pay so big duty for goods from India), but also the Jap they are imported? Or not? So what the matter that Ducati is so expensive compare to Jap when in Europe the difference is not that big? Here some price at the public for the bike: Aprilia RSV 1000 R '06- (Kw) 105.24 -Cc 997.6 - (€) 14.400,00 Benelli Tornado 1130- (Kw) 120 - Cc 1.130 - (€) 14.800,00 Bimota DB5 - (Kw) 67.7 - Cc 992 - (€) 21.000,00 BMW R 1200 S - (Kw) 90 - Cc 1.170 - (€) 13.291,00 Buell 1125 R - (Kw) 109 - (Kw) 109 - (€) 12.995,00 Ducati 1098 - (Kw) 119.3 - Cc 1.099 - (€) 17.000,00 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R '08 - (Kw) 138.3 - Cc 998 - (€) 13.700,00 MV Agusta F4 1000 S 1+1 - (Kw) 122 - Cc 998 - (€) 19.380,00 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K7 - (Kw) 136.1 - Cc 999 - (€) 13.800,00 Yamaha R1 '07 - (Kw) 132.5 - Cc 998 - (€) 14.014,00 Ducati Monster S4R - (Kw) 83.4 - Cc 996 - (€) 12.500,00 Last edited by Rehaan : 26th April 2008 at 22:29. Reason: Formatting tags removed.
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28th April 2008, 22:35	#58
Scooby STi BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 74 Thanked: Once View My Garage	I thought i'll include my 2 cents worth in this discussion... I've had a Ducati 749 for a bit, the reason I bought it is because its narrower than the Japanese 600s because of the L-twin which makes it nimbler. It is sharper too in the handling department with some amazing intrinsic balance that built into the bike. Its much less manic than a 600 as well because its makes peak power at 10000 RPM rather than a dizzy 16000 RPM. Both these factors contribute to making it a much more usable bike on the street, the healthy dollop of torque does'nt hurt either. Again, for the above reasons i'd have to say its a more sensible (or maybe I should say a less insane/suicidal) bike in India. Pray where in India can you wring out a 600 to its 16000RPM red-line? That's why my bike is going to be on ship bound for Bangalore in the next two weeks. No, the Monster is not more expensive than an R1, I know for a fact that the 2008 Monster 696 is $8500 while the 2008 Suzuki GSX 600R is $9400 because I have two friends who put down deposits for these bikes last week.
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29th April 2008, 01:17	#60
tsxei BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 164 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	I don't know guys. I used to think that 4cyl 600's lack torque for city driving. But after riding one for some 8 months, I don't believe that. I do pretty good in the city without having to downshift or rev the hell out of it. I mean you don't need to be where the bike produces its peak torque to move some 500 odd pounds of weight including the rider. Having said that, I wouldn't mind to own a Ducati at all. The new 696 is definitely hot as hell. Last edited by tsxei : 29th April 2008 at 01:19.
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