Max, from the options listed out by you, the CBR 1000 RR seems to be the most viable option for you. Like someone mentioned, that bike handles brilliantly and it would be most effortless from the three options listed by you.
The R1 from what i have heard and read is more of a track weapon than half a decent leisure commute through the city. The 2007-08 had a crap ventilaton system, which meant your bike would always be running hot at 05-6 degrees odd whenever in city. Yamaha may have improved this on the new gen R1, please try taking an etensive test ride of the new R1 while you are in the US instead of falling for the sexiest set of two wheels available in the country.
The Hayabusa, God knows I would love to own one someday, but I have listed out a bunch of cons against the Busa with respect to your choice of bike.
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In any country, being fastest is a trophy. |
Trophy (?), Lol. Having one of the fastest production motorcycles in the world is one thing, and riding it to its ideal (and not extreme) potential another.
To me it only certifies that the owner has bucket loads of moolah to afford a trick machine, little taste, and just about nothing else.
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Originally Posted by insaneroller So see the reviews of 14R vs Busa 09. 14R is quicker to take off & better cornering. Busa is not as badly restricted as the stock 14R, so it takes over in a straight line past 260kmph. Thats is when both are stock.
Now read the reviews of when both are fully opened up with the works. Busa had no chance to catch it. Thats the fact mate. Not because I own the 14R, but just check the reviews first before concluding |
The above is a never ending war, its been around since forever on most forums.
Tojo, I've been smitten by the Kwacker bug since a really long time, makes me smile whenever I see one. I probably have even spent more time on Ninja forums than many Kawasaki owners may have. But, the Hayabusa is about authority, speed, power and beyond.
The Hayabusa with its wierdly designed front end and low stance is probably the only motorycle that sold rolling units inspite of not being good looking, and yet does the sales with not much change from its basic avatar from a decade ago.
The Zx-14 may be a fraction faster or whatever than the Hayabusa, but then that was the aim Kawasaki had after they couldn't get onto the act with the Zx-12 inspite of much consant effort they put in through the years. The Hayabusa instead was a fresh approach, and made with the sole aim of being the most imposing motorcycle around, for its power and oodles of character.
And, the Suzuki management did wonders, they struck and how.
The comparo between the Hayabusa and the Zx-14 is very similar to comparing the Veyron and the Mclaren F1 GTR (barring the prices and no. of units ofcourse). The Veyron was made to beat the Mclaren which it did, and the GTR was made from something else. What you choose then is simply your choice.
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Originally Posted by insaneroller Even if I am not able to exploit 50% of a Busa's or 14R's potential, I would go for them. |
The title should have read like Busa or 14R, because CBR1000 and R1 are smaller in cc and a lot smaller in size. In my opinion, you should look for Busa or 14R. They are both HUUUUUUUUUUGE. They guarantee maximum attention on road which is a bonus. |
You do realise that you are suggesting a first big bike here, and not a second or third. The advantages you mention (size and volcano of power) are clearly the most immediate shortcomings for the fresh import rider.
A few rides on friends' or rented joy rides cannot make up for a few thousand miles of worthy ownership experience.
The Busa, irrespective how much I wanted to own one after the Thunderace is just not a first bike for anyone with a head on their shoulders.
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Originally Posted by insaneroller 14R is known for good cornering, thats where it takes the Busa. |
Takes it where, for a stroll? Heck, gone are the days when we had a superbike that did not handle in a coherent manner. Now, and since a few years from now, there have been bikes that handle well, and a few that handle exceptionally well.
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Originally Posted by insaneroller Personally, whichever 600's I've been with to lonavla have never been able to keep up with the 14R. |
Those must have been single pots with 600 cc graphics and probably a NOS decal. Or to be fair, probably some noobs on their first bunch of Sunday rides.
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Originally Posted by insaneroller Still, would love to show it to you, rather than chat about it. |
So what stakes are you guys at, winner takes all eh?
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Originally Posted by nitro.1000bhp Also I have heard of a scheme where NRIs can bring down there own vehicle when they come back to india for no duty costs at all. If the scheme is still applicable you can buy a litre bike there for almost half the price sold over here.. Warranty might be an issue though.. |
I can most definitely vouch that what you have heard is utter rubbish. There is no such scheme that exists, the only advantage a TR import provides is that you can import a motorcycle older than foure years if you have owned the same abroad for a minimum period of one year. Please get over it.
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Originally Posted by Dante But in some of the reviews i read the cbr is better than R1, i m not so sure. |
I am yet to read a review that does not indicate that the test rider is not in love with the new Blade. The 2008-09 fireblade is apparently pure awesomeness!
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Originally Posted by YC.BALENO.CHD Get the Zx-10R screw everything else . end of the story . |
Have you ridden a Zx-10R? A recent version?
From the reviews I have read over the years, the 2006-07 Zie ex ten did not have the neck breaking first gear, and lacked the superb top end of the 2004-05. Early reviews had suggested the 2008 10 was back, and almost as good as the first generation, but have heard nothing exceptional being carried on through this year.
Besides, the 2008 Zx-10 did not look the panache to stand against half a sexy looking bike.
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Originally Posted by YC.BALENO.CHD if you are not 6 foot+ you wont be able to sit on a busa properly . |
That is another misconception on this thread, from first hand experience, the Busa is a great bike for the short, well built rider who has reaonable past experience on a biggie!
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Originally Posted by YC.BALENO.CHD and plus for indian roads busa is the most impractical because of its size and weight . |
Could not have agreed more. My cousin who is almost 6 Feet and extremely broad built sometimes has issues chugging along his Busain daily traffic conditions. The Busa is what is has always been, a superb weekend touring motorcycle, or a lethal drag weapon.
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Originally Posted by YC.BALENO.CHD try riding the R1 for more than half an hour continuously in a little bit of traffic and then see what all joints in your body start paining . |
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For the first few 15-20 minutes on an R1 everyone begins to think how comfortable the R1 is, just about everything falls into place. A fewmore minutes and wrists start to ache, the forearm goes sore, and the R1 becomes one of the uncomfortable bike to be aboard. Don't even get me started on how hot the frame gets in traffic conditions, ask Straight6 and he could possible write a fully blown review about the heating characteristics of the R1.
manson.