[Parm]

Both vehicles are born out of the same platform from Thailand.

VFM is offered by Innova, thats why your brain keeps ticking the Innova.

why buy a T-Fort, when you wont be putting it to its potential usage...OFFROAD!

Dil To Pagal Hai....
Dil Hai Ki Manta Nahi....
Dil Ka Kya Kasoor...

the list of mistakes by the heart is endless, with brain you could never go wrong.

Innova is your natural winner if you consider your requirements and needs for a vehicle choice beteen Innova and T-Fort!

[BBR_SHR]

If you are the type who thinks a car is an extension of your own personality then buy the T-Fort (we all like to have that personality). I will be buying one, "without" a Test Drive.

If no, then buy Innova (reasons in abundance above).

[fuel_addict]

The Innova sounds like a much more VFM proposition than the T-Fort. Similar looking interiors with more or less similar cabin space. The T-Fort has a better road presence and a bigger engine but I think that isn't the priority based on your posts.

Throw in the long waiting period of the T-Fort and the Innova seems to be the better option. The V variant has all features of the T-Fort except the AWD. You also save close to 10L by choosing the Innova V over the T-Fort.

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by Parm

Both vehicles are born out of the same platform from Thailand.

VFM is offered by Innova, thats why your brain keeps ticking the Innova.

why buy a T-Fort, when you wont be putting it to its potential usage...OFFROAD!
Innova is your natural winner if you consider your requirements and needs for a vehicle choice beteen Innova and T-Fort!

Well said, Parm. I couldn't have summed it up better.
Just to add to it, taking a 20l vehicle off road will have you nervous at the wheel fearing the damage it might cause to itself.

If you want to go offroad on weekends, buy a Gypsy/Jeep for 2 Lacs and throw it around as much as you want to.

[SILVERWOOD]

I would bet my money on Innova 2.5 V Diesel.A vehicle which will serve you obediently for 3+ lakh kms and you will not hear a rattle from the dashboard.

[Parm]

Originally Posted by n.devdath

Well said, Parm. I couldn't have summed it up better.
Just to add to it, taking a 20l vehicle off road will have you nervous at the wheel fearing the damage it might cause to itself.

If you want to go offroad on weekends, buy a Gypsy/Jeep for 2 Lacs and throw it around as much as you want to.

+1 to that. i support your comment about having a cheaper 2nd vehicle for OTR desires!

[nilanjanray]

@ Devnath, Parm: The 'use a normal vehicle and also use a cheaper 4WD for the weekend' doesn't suit everyone. For someone like me, an allrounder is better than two specialist vehicles. For many others, two specialist vehicles make sense.

What if you want to offroad 500kms away? Offroading could mean trail driving or reaching some beautiful - and sometimes the trail exists 300 km away e.g. somewhere in the Nilgiris if you are coming from Bangalore. What about someone who wants to do what Sudev does (as an example) - traveling many many kms and then offroading somewhere on the way or when he reaches the destination? And what if you want to take your family along to reach a place relatively far away - and then climb a hill or take a trail to reach a fantastic viewpoint or camping point? I don't want to take my family through the dust and heat of the highways for many hours to do that. And I would stop enjoying my frequent trips if I had to drive slowly on highways in less comfort to reach my destinations.

Not everyone offroads for the sake of offroading. And most people here refer to a certain type of offroading when they say 'offroading' - the sport/activity type, rather than travel or overlanding type. For the latter types, a Jeep or a Gypsy is not a very good idea if you do it often (one-off trip is a different matter).

IMO, for the OP, an Innova makes more practical sense. But whether he wants to take a practice decision or not is a different matter.

[n.devdath]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

For someone like me, an allrounder is better than two specialist vehicles. For many others, two specialist vehicles make sense.

Precisely my point Nilajanray. However, there is a very small proportion of people who actually put it to use as you have.
Also, most of our cars are much more capable than we assume them to be. For example, many people go to Leh in hatches, and come back successfully.

[shankar.balan]

most of these vehicles are only 7-8 seaters in name.
the last row is usually unusable except by very small children and/ or vertically challenged pygmies
the toyota innova is supremely comfy for a family of 5 + luggage. Fortuner is best for 4 persons max + luggage.
this is only my opinion.

[MAS]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

@ Devnath, Parm: The 'use a normal vehicle and also use a cheaper 4WD for the weekend' doesn't suit everyone. For someone like me, an allrounder is better than two specialist vehicles. For many others, two specialist vehicles make sense.

What if you want to offroad 500kms away? Offroading could mean trail driving or reaching some beautiful - and sometimes the trail exists 300 km away e.g. somewhere in the Nilgiris if you are coming from Bangalore. What about someone who wants to do what Sudev does (as an example) - traveling many many kms and then offroading somewhere on the way or when he reaches the destination? And what if you want to take your family along to reach a place relatively far away - and then climb a hill or take a trail to reach a fantastic viewpoint or camping point? I don't want to take my family through the dust and heat of the highways for many hours to do that. And I would stop enjoying my frequent trips if I had to drive slowly on highways in less comfort to reach my destinations.

Not everyone offroads for the sake of offroading. And most people here refer to a certain type of offroading when they say 'offroading' - the sport/activity type, rather than travel or overlanding type. For the latter types, a Jeep or a Gypsy is not a very good idea if you do it often (one-off trip is a different matter).

IMO, for the OP, an Innova makes more practical sense. But whether he wants to take a practice decision or not is a different matter.

You hit the nail on its head.

Guys, thank you very much for your opinion. All the points in favour of the Innova are strong, factual and true. Based on these points, I had a good, long, detailed look at the top end Innova (Did not drive it at that time). The Fortuner looked and felt sooooo much better.

Apart from the opinion from you gurus, I spoke to a very close friend who owns both the cars. He also said that the Innova has a better middle seat, but the Fortuner is not that bad.

The ultimate decision will be taken when i would test drive both the cars back to back with my parents and family. My wife and kids are already for the Fortuner. I just hope the Fortuner is able to convince my parents. Will keep this thread updated.

Last but not least, guys, i am a person who follows my heart and my gut feel. My heart "strongly" says Fortuner. I am convincing myself that if i buy an Innova, then i may 'repent/feel sorrow/regret" for not buying a Fortuner and would look at every Fortuner on the road with "envy".

If i am still undecided after the test drives, i think i would sell my Fusion and Santro and buy the Innova for the family and buy a Fortuner for myself.

[dkaile]

^
Precisely why I booked the Fortuner. You should buy a vehicle that you love and longed for a long time. Having kept the utilitarian Qualis for so many years, when the time came to upgrade I didn't give the Innova a second chance. Having kept utility for 9 years, its time for the heart now. Besides as mentioned many times otherwise with the Fortuner you get the following for the extra cash you pay over Innova -
1. 3.0 L Prado engine (same does duty in a vehicle twice the cost of Fortuner, worth at least a lac more)
2. 17" Gorgeous wheels (worth at least a lac extra)
3. XXL size body (add another 2 lacs over the Innova)
4. Brilliant all time 4 wheel drive system with the High/Low additional gear box (add another lac or so)
5. On road presence like nothing else (priceless)

Add On Suggestion: MMI in-dash 6.4" Touchscreen Navigation/DVD/BT System for 30K; That will take care of your feeling of interiors similar to Innova. Nothing else AFAICT needed.

Go with the heart on this one; you wont regret it.

[MAS]

Originally Posted by dkaile

^
Precisely why I booked the Fortuner. You should buy a vehicle that you love and longed for a long time. Having kept the utilitarian Qualis for so many years, when the time came to upgrade I didn't give the Innova a second chance. Having kept utility for 9 years, its time for the heart now. Besides as mentioned many times otherwise with the Fortuner you get the following for the extra cash you pay over Innova -
1. 3.0 L Prado engine (same does duty in a vehicle twice the cost of Fortuner, worth at least a lac more)
2. 17" Gorgeous wheels (worth at least a lac extra)
3. XXL size body (add another 2 lacs over the Innova)
4. Brilliant all time 4 wheel drive system with the High/Low additional gear box (add another lac or so)
5. On road presence like nothing else (priceless)

Add On Suggestion: MMI in-dash 6.4" Touchscreen Navigation/DVD/BT System for 30K; That will take care of your feeling of interiors similar to Innova. Nothing else AFAICT needed.

Go with the heart on this one; you wont regret it.

Thanks Man. That is a nicer way of looking at the Fortuner. Instead of comparing it with Innova, compare it with LC Prado

I was actually thinking of a CASKA unit after i get my Fortuner, but hey, I am counting chickens before they hatch....

[nilanjanray]

Oops, I hope I didn't influence another person to go for the Fortuner in some small way :-)

But now that you have decided, congratulations!!! You won't regret it if you can put up with a slight bumpy ride and adequate brakes.

I have been having a great time with my Fortuner...you can have a look at my, Manuuj's and Guderian's ownership threads. We have had it for a few thousands of kms now, no regrets or issues to report. It is one tough and reliable beast.

[MAS]

Originally Posted by nilanjanray

Oops, I hope I didn't influence another person to go for the Fortuner in some small way :-)

But now that you have decided, congratulations!!! You won't regret it if you can put up with a slight bumpy ride and adequate brakes.

I have been having a great time with my Fortuner...you can have a look at my, Manuuj's and Guderian's ownership threads. We have had it for a few thousands of kms now, no regrets or issues to report. It is one tough and reliable beast.

I have been dreaming about this car ever since I read GTO's 'super' review. I have been glued to Manuuj's, Guderian's and your ownership reports. You did your part in guiding me to a decision. Thanks a "fortune" for it!!!

Guess I need to wait a little longer as I need to stake up the extra moolah required. Still would keep the thread updated after the test drive.

[Parm]

dude you asked for a choice between TFort and Innova ( 20L vs 10L vehicles based on the same platform), we told you Innova.

now the comparison has started and its getting stretched....

please dont compare the TFort with Prado, there is no comparison! (because TFort is based on a Pickup.....Hilux, i drive one in Dubai!)

similary TFort and Innova, two different vehicles when it comes to their utility, 4WD vs MUV.

is it 20L vs 10L or 4WD vs MUV?

its your money, your choice.....dont blame it on your heart!