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Old 7th September 2021, 23:21   #76
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Re: Nexon vs Sonet?

I was in your shoes just a couple of months back with same 2 car dilemma. We were getting a sweet deal on Nexon and ready delivery too but still I went with Sonet just because of primary reason of Torque Converter vs AMT. I have driven my friends Nexon Diesel AMT few times and it's quite good but not as smooth as a TC. So, if you seek pure driving pleasure I will suggest getting a Sonet. Nexon will be definitely better built and more safer. Do an extensive TD for both and then make up your mind.
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I was in your shoes just a couple of months back with same 2 car dilemma. We were getting a sweet deal on Nexon and ready delivery too but still I went with Sonet just because of primary reason of Torque Converter vs AMT. I have driven my friends Nexon Diesel AMT few times and it's quite good but not as smooth as a TC. So, if you seek pure driving pleasure I will suggest getting a Sonet. Nexon will be definitely better built and more safer. Do an extensive TD for both and then make up your mind.
How's the economy on the TC? And the sound quality and space at the back? Do you have ventilated seats and what's the feedback? The seats and TC are the only reasons I'm considering Sonet
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How's the economy on the TC? And the sound quality and space at the back? Do you have ventilated seats and what's the feedback? The seats and TC are the only reasons I'm considering Sonet
Mine will be delivered in couple of days so can only give the feedback later on. That's why I suggested to do an extensive TD as no matter what we all say, ultimately it's your own experience which will matter.
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Nexon - Built like a tank, 260 Nm available and ease of service and spares availability. 5*? I'm already drooling.
My requirements are few:
1. Should be a diesel AT.
2. Should be a safe vehicle.
3. Ease of availability of spares and service.
4. Should be comfortable to drive (highest drives ~ 150kms after a long day at work)
5. Raised stance and projectors.
6. Drool worthy music system.
Considering your requirement and the comparison, you seem to be already sold on the Nexon. I would suggest to take test drives of both the vehicles back to back along with your family to experience the engine and gearbox combinations as well the comfort of your family. That would give a fair idea of what you would be buying. Also the Nexon has an upper hand of being rated 5 star at GNCAP whereas the Sonet remains to be tested. All the best for your new car.
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Do you have ventilated seats and what's the feedback?
I love the ventilated seats. I wish if it can be configured to turn on automatically

I bought Sonet recently and Nexon wasn’t considered since my primary requirement was a proper automatic. Mine is a DCT, so I can’t talk about the TC.

The rear seat is comfortable for us, but I think comfort is something we can’t generalise (I’m comfortable in a regular Kerala RTC bus but not in a Volvo).

If I was okay with an AMT, I’d have chosen Nexon considering it’s time tested, the cost difference and the GNCAP rating.

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is the sunroof big enough to actually consider or will it just be a gimmick?
Not sure, but your kid will love a sunroof regardless of the size
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Re: Nexon vs Sonet?

Please do extensive test drives of both and particularly the Nexon AMT. There are some who don’t mind the jerky shifts of an AMT, I wouldn’t touch an AMT equipped vehicle with a barge pole. Burnt my fingers with a Maruti Ignis AMT, I thought I could live with it, couldn’t, sold it in a years time.

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Re: Nexon vs Sonet?

First off, with an annual usage of around 7k kms a year, I would not suggest buying a diesel. Secondly, if you are upgrading from the i10 for safety reasons, then the Sonet just won't cut it since the Seltos itself received a poor Global NCAP rating so doubt the Sonet would do any better.

I would suggest looking beyond the options you have listed since the Sonet is not safe enough and the Nexon's AMT will just leave you frustrated.
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Re: Which AT Compact SUV for me?

The way I see it, AMT and tricky service centers are the only dealbreaker. Beyond that, I think Nexon makes a better choice as in general Tata cars are very rugged, safe, and comfortable.

Between myself and my brother, we have owned Maruti, Tata (2), Ford(2), Fiat(2), Renault and a VW at various times. Haven't found too much between the service centers but for the additional 'salaam' and a coffee offered at Maruti.

Also, the Tata AMTs are better tuned than Maruti (I test drove an Ignis) with a less pronounced head nod.

Then you have the news of Hyundai/Kia compromising on the strength of the body shell.

Take both the cars on fairly long test drives on exactly the same route, decision making will be easier (of course the quality of your test car could be the decisive factor).
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I'm looking for a bigger vehicle (higher ground clearance for village roads plus higher stance against the stupid dipper drivers on the highway) which will probably be a diesel for the sheer torque on tap, which my i10 has been found lacking at times. It has to be an AT because I am pretty lazy to change gears by myself (having an i10 AT at home has always made me dislike my own car a little).
Dad drives a Nexon AMT. He got it 2 years ago and he has clocked 70K Kms already. He drives 200 Kms everyday and he's almost 70 years old. After initial glitches, he hasn't had any issues with it. I have driven it a few times, in the city and on our out of town trips. I am not a big fan of the AMT to be honest. There's a lag sometimes in the first gear when I am starting out, especially on inclines and that annoys me to no end. Since my dad drives it often, he just remembers to use handbrake before he starts moving. That's something you should check out when you are test driving. But I do love the Nexon's build quality. Dad has had minor bumps on the highway and the Nexon has taken it well. Hardly any dents on the car. It's Highway manners are pretty impressive too, it has good torque for those overtakes and stiff enough suspension that you don't feel the expansion joints and undulations.

Regardless of which one you are going to pick, I am sure you are going to love it. Good luck!
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As an owner of Nexon Diesel AMT for the last 3+
Years and 42K KMS ( thanks to Covid), I would recommend. The Nexon makes a compelling argument with the powerful engine and go anywhere ground clearance. The AMT is definitely felt, but once you get used to it, it’s not a deal breaker. Do take a test drive to be absolutely sure.
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Re: Which AT Compact SUV for me?

Nexon, primarily because it is a matured product and most of the niggles have been sorted.

Secondly, if niggles do come up, Tata listens, unlike the horrid Kia experience that many of our friends on the forum have shared.

Thirdly, safety. Better NCAP translate to peace of mind.
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Re: Nexon vs Sonet?

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My requirements are few:
1. Should be a diesel AT.
2. Should be a safe vehicle.
3. Ease of availability of spares and service.
4. Should be comfortable to drive (highest drives ~ 150kms after a long day at work)
5. Raised stance and projectors.
6. Drool worthy music system.
7. Being a public sector banker, won't mind sarkari attitude!
If that list is the actual order of priorities for your new car, then you might not be happy with my suggestion. My suggestion, between the Nexon and the Sonet is, the Nexon. Anyday, anytime.

Yes the Sonet is a fantastic car, the engine + transmission options are truly amazing and the features set is something that some cars that cost more than it, don't have. But the safety is questionable. I have driven the Sonet and the overall build and feel wasn't really 100% reassuring (read - it did NOT feel like a tank) and the seltos crash test disaster only managed to decrease my trust in the car further.

The reason I said my suggestion might not be something you hoped for is because, contrary to what you hear anywhere, an AMT can't be as smooth as a TC. An AMT might come close but it won't be smoother. But the safety of the car is so questionable that if I was the buyer, I am more than ready to sacrifice smoothness, for a much more safer car. If something from their lineup that costs about 2 million rupees managed to fail so badly, I can only imagine what's in store for a product that costs less than that.

Maybe my logic will be proved wrong by Kia themselves, maybe the Sonet will be crash tested in the near future and it might pass in flying colours compared to it's much more expensive brother, but are you ready to wait, with your current car, that you feel is not safe anymore, until then? "Then" can be in the coming days, coming months or maybe never.

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Re: Which AT Compact SUV for me?

Well if your primary reason for upgrading from i10 is that its a "0.5-star rated car", why are you even considering Sonet which would at max be 3 star rated looking at how its bigger sibling performed at crash tests.
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Re: Which AT Compact SUV for me?

I think what you missed out in your comparison is the engine capacity. Sonet, venue etc are all 1000 cc, which is even lower than Ritz!! What I would prefer in an SUV is heavy curb weight (for grip & stability) & higher engine capacity. This is provided only by Brezza & Nexon. AMT is not as great disadvantage as compared to lower engine power!!
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I'm currently the owner of a 8yo i10 which has clocked 52k+ kms as on date. The car has been pretty boring - starts on the first attempt, drives smoothly, does the job pretty well without any surprises, still gives 15-16kmpl with 100% AC with mixed city and highway runs. However, I got it when I was a hot blooded youngster fresh out of college and with the competition being MS Swift. Now I am a married person with a kid and suddenly a 0.5* rated car with a boaty ride doesn't excite me or my better half anymore.

I'm looking for a bigger vehicle (higher ground clearance for village roads plus higher stance against the stupid dipper drivers on the highway) which will probably be a diesel for the sheer torque on tap, which my i10 has been found lacking at times. It has to be an AT because I am pretty lazy to change gears by myself (having an i10 AT at home has always made me dislike my own car a little).

My choices are simple - Tata Nexon and Kia Sonet. No Ford's, no XUVs (my Activa has bigger boot space) and no Nissan's.

Here is a small for and against for each vehicle which I have been able to come up with

Nexon - Built like a tank, 260 Nm available and ease of service and spares availability. 5*? I'm already drooling.

Sonet - The famed 1.6 detuned to 1.5, gizmos, cooled seats (it's Punjab summers) and the torque converter (my other i10 has one too)

Against Nexon - No sunroof (for cooling a hot car) and no 10" system and ventilated seats

Against Sonet - no star rating as such (Seltos anyone?), spares and service may be a hit and a miss, cost of spares

My requirements are few:
1. Should be a diesel AT.
2. Should be a safe vehicle.
3. Ease of availability of spares and service.
4. Should be comfortable to drive (highest drives ~ 150kms after a long day at work)
5. Raised stance and projectors.
6. Drool worthy music system.
7. Being a public sector banker, won't mind sarkari attitude!

I would require your advice/suggestions/real life examples and feedbacks on which beast to tame before we all shift to EVs. Thanks in advance!
Hands down Kia Sonet. The only Proper Automatic Diesel Sub 4-Metre SUV is Sonet as it has Torque Converter Automatic Gearbox. It even got Ventilated Seats which literally is magical and practical to be used in Indian climate.
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