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Skoda Kushaq 83 18.32%
Hyundai Creta 35 7.73%
Kia Seltos 31 6.84%
Jeep Compass 122 26.93%
Tata Harrier 100 22.08%
MG Hector 5 1.10%
Mahindra XUV500 12 2.65%
Volkswagen T-Roc 42 9.27%
Other (please specify in your post) 23 5.08%
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Skoda Kushaq


What you'll like:

• A breath of fresh (European) air in a sea of Korean, Chinese & Indian SUVs
• Classy exterior & interior styling matched with solid European build quality
• Cabin has good legroom to offer, supportive seats, perfect ergonomics & lots of storage
• 148 BHP engine makes the Kushaq one of the most fun-to-drive crossovers in the segment
• Sporty 1.0L & 1.5L turbo-petrols are mated to slick 6-speed MTs & smooth ATs
• Sorted suspension offers a balanced ride & handling package
• Safety features include 6 airbags (sadly MT only), ESC (all variants), 3-point seatbelts for all, electronic differential lock, brake disc wiping, multi-collision brake and more
• 6-year extended warranty & 4-year all inclusive service packages available
• Features like active cylinder tech, ventilated seats, sunroof, wireless Android Auto and CarPlay, audio system with a punchy subwoofer, auto headlamps & wipers etc.

What you won't:

• No 1.5L diesel is a major disadvantage in a world where petrol costs over 100 bucks / litre
• DQ200 DSG transmission has a history of poor reliability & breakdowns in India
• Narrow width makes a 5th adult completely unwelcome. Best for 4 onboard
• Lovely 1.5L TSI is only available on the top variant
• At 385 litres, boot space is lesser than its direct rivals (Creta & Seltos = 433L)
• Sure lacks the street cred / presence offered by some competitors
• Skoda’s notorious dealerships & after-sales horror stories
• Missing some now expected features such as 6 airbags on the ATs, driving modes (sport), panoramic sunroof, 360-degree camera, electric driver's seat adjustment & regular USB ports
• Turbo-petrols are very sensitive to driving style. FE will drop drastically when you drive hard

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Hyundai Creta


What you'll like:

• A superbly engineered all-rounder that delivers a premium experience
• We find the Hyundai Creta to be well-priced for what it offers
• User-friendly interiors with sufficient space & good quality parts
• Loved the 1.4L turbo-petrol & 1.5L diesel. These are fantastic engines
• Smooth & competent automatic gearboxes available. With the useful "auto-hold" feature too
• Sorted road manners & handling for a Hyundai, including on the highway. You will be surprised!
• The Creta's safety package includes 6 airbags, ESP, all-wheel disc brakes, TPMS etc.
• Impressive kit (panoramic sunroof, paddle shifters, Bose sound system, cooled seats, cabin air purifier & loads more)
• Hyundai's competent after-sales service, fuss-free ownership & upto 5-years standard warranty

What you won't:

• Oddball love it or hate it styling. We find the Creta's exterior design to be too weird & futuristic
• Firmer suspension isn't as cushy as the 1st-gen Creta. It is more comfortable than the Seltos though
• Back seat's width makes it better for 2 adults and a kid, rather than 3 adults
• Some misses (no auto wipers, 360-degree camera, illuminated window buttons, full-size spare tyre on top trims)
• Dual-clutch ATs (like the Hyundai Creta Petrol DCT) have a history of poor reliability in India
• Diesel’s 113 BHP & 250 Nm – although adequate – are the lowest in the segment. Old 1.6L CRDi was superior
• No manual transmission available with the fast 1.4L Petrol (Seltos offers this combo)
• The stiffer Seltos has an edge in the handling department. IMHO, the Kia is better looking too
• You get bigger SUVs & Crossovers for the same money (e.g. Hector, Harrier, XUV500)

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Kia Seltos


What you'll like:

• A superbly engineered all-rounder that delivers a premium experience
• Handsome, contemporary styling. Looks very sharp
• We find the Seltos to be well-priced for what it offers
• Nice, user-friendly interiors with sufficient space & good quality
• Loved the 1.4L turbo-petrol & 1.5L diesel. They are BS6 compliant too
• Both the automatics - Diesel AT & Petrol DCT - are simply fantastic!
• Mature on-road behavior, including at highway speeds. A+ brakes as well
• Unusually wide variant offering. Seems there is something for everyone
• Safety kit includes 6 airbags, ESP, all-wheel disc brakes, blind spot monitor, TPMS etc.
• Impressive kit (360 degree camera, HUD, front parking sensors, Bose sound system, cooled seats, cabin air purifier & loads more)

What you won't:

• Barely managed 3-stars in the GNCAP crash tests (full discussion)
• Firm suspension. Liveable, but bad roads will bother you (especially on 17" wheel variants)
• Back seat's width makes it better for 2 adults and a kid, rather than 3 adults
• Niggles are being reported by owners (details here)
• Some misses (illuminated window buttons, thinner spare tyre on top trims, no dual-tone option on GTX+ / HTX+)
• Dual-clutch ATs (like the Petrol DCT) have a history of poor reliability in India
• Diesel’s 113 BHP & 250 Nm – although adequate – are the lowest in the segment.
• Extremely confusing & complicated variant spread. We still haven’t gotten the hang of it!
• Kia's after-sales service quality is an unknown. We await details in our ownership reports
• You get bigger SUVs & Crossovers for the same money (e.g. Hector, Harrier, XUV500)

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Jeep Compass


What you'll like:

• Handsome Cherokee-inspired styling & loads of character
• Solid build. Feels very robust, just as a Jeep should
• Powerful 2.0L diesel. Good driveability in the city, fast on the open road
• 1.4L turbo-petrol makes 161 BHP! Offers fast performance.
• Mature suspension setup, nicely-tuned EPS & rock-solid stability
• Capable AWD available (unlike some competitors)
• City-friendly: Compact size, higher seating, smooth gearshift, soft clutch & low NVH
• Topnotch safety: Strong all-disc brakes, a plethora of electronic aids & 6 airbags
• We think the Compass is well-priced for what it offers. The driving experience & overall package feel premium

What you won't:

• Small size for the price! A sentiment echoed by most people who saw it in person
• Suitable for 4 adults, not 5. Boot is small too
• Tiny dealership network. Plus, after-sales quality & long-term reliability are unknown factors
• AWD's premium is over 2 lakh rupees on-the-road
• Turning radius of 5.65m is wide. Also, 17Ί approach angle is too low
• Missing goodies (blanks on the steering, lumbar adjustment, reclinable rear seats)

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Tata Harrier


What you'll like:

• Smooth & competent 6-speed automatic transmission
• Stunning looks & strong road presence. Solid build too
• Classy, spacious cabin with comfortable seats & a chilling air-con
• Fantastic 9-speaker audio system. Sound quality & bass are enjoyable
• The Harrier's 2.0L diesel now gets 30 BHP more & offers good performance
• 205 mm of ground clearance + terrain response system. Latter will make monsoon driving safer
• Topnotch safety kit includes 6 airbags, ESP, break reminder, hill hold, brake disc wiping & more
• Features such as the panoramic sunroof, Eco & Sport modes, auto headlamps & wipers, cruise control…

What you won't:

• Heavy steering gets cumbersome at parking / u-turn / crawling speeds (<5 km/h)
• Harrier AT’s focus is on smoothness & comfort; gearbox is not the most responsive
• Concerns over niggles & long-term reliability associated with Tata cars
• Service visit every 6 months / 7,500 km (12-months is the norm today)
• Diesel engine does get loud at 3,500 rpm & its engine note is quite sad too
• No petrol option (almost all competitors offer it). No AWD for enthusiasts either
• Although improved, the Harrier's steering @ 120 km/h is still a level too sensitive
• Tata's after-sales service quality is a hit or miss. Remains a gamble

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MG Hector


What you'll like:

• Big size & lots of bling for the money! We find the Hector to be well-priced
• A spacious cabin that can easily seat 5 adults. Massive 587 litre boot too
• Fiat-sourced 2.0L diesel is simply fantastic
• Compliant ride quality. Suspension is tuned for comfort
• Lots of kit (panoramic sunroof, 360-degree camera, electric seats & tailgate etc.)
• ‘Connected’ Tablet ICE with an embedded SIM & lovely sound quality
• 5-year / unlimited km warranty with roadside assistance
• Top safety equipment includes 6 airbags, ESP, HSA, all-wheel disc brakes, TPMS & more

What you won't:

• Awkward styling on the side & rear profiles. Looks weird from some angles
• Sloppy high-speed handling, noticeable body roll & easy understeer
• The petrol engine is “adequate” at best. Its guzzling Automatic variant is unimpressive
• No Diesel AT (Creta, Seltos, XUV500, Hexa offer this combination, which we love)
• Some annoyances like the ~6 meter turning radius, strange rpm meter…
• Small after-sales network. Service quality & long-term reliability are big unknowns
• Waiting period runs into a couple of months
• Don’t get blinded by the British branding. This is a Chinese car

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Mahindra XUV500


What you’ll like:

• A well-engineered, contemporary SUV with a value-for-money price tag
• More mature styling. Front end no longer looks garish
• Acres of space on the 1st & 2nd seat rows
• Competent engine delivers fantastic urban driveability, as well as fast highway performance
• Balanced ride & handling package
• Safety kit includes 6 airbags, ESP with rollover mitigation, ABS + EBD and all-wheel disc brakes
• Expansive feature list (sunroof, touchscreen ICE, powered driver's seat, cruise control etc.)

What you won’t:

• Absolutely no luggage capacity with all the seats in place
• Cramped 3rd seat row is best suited to children only. A sliding middle row is sorely missed
• Interior quality, although better, still has a lot of scope for improvement
• Clutch is lighter now, but has a long travel range & high resting point. Gets cumbersome in traffic
• Niggles & issues, as reported by existing XUV500 owners
• Mahindra's inconsistent sales & service experiences

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1st choice Skoda Kushaq because it gives me a couple of my non-negotiables = loads of fun to drive (1.5L & 1.0L both), safety (here, I trust the VAG group not to goof up), clean styling, comfortable ride quality and sufficient space for 4 (not 5). However, I will wait until they get the AT variants with 6 airbags. Skoda knows it royally messed up and that was a DUMB move which will be corrected soon. I know the Kushaq will be troublesome to own in the long run and will give me at least 1 headache a year as it approaches the 4 - 5 year mark (post that, I expect 2 major problems a year). But I have become a full Euro-car convert and am willing to accept 5 days of pain a year for 360 days of pleasure.

2nd choice Kia Seltos. Loved the crossover when it was launched and love it today. That Diesel AT combo is an added bonus & would be my choice. Still looks good. But I would buy the Seltos only if I already had another car for high-speed highway runs. Its crash-test rating really rattled me. The GNCAP was unnerving.

Jeep Compass, but only if I was looking at an MT (which I don't anymore). The Compass ATs suck, both in petrol & diesel. Harrier is still not a fully baked product and I don't know when Tata will sort out all its issues. The guy in charge of production & quality control should be fired. Creta's ugly styling is a deal-breaker for me. The Hector is a fantastic + comfy family cruiser, but that boat-like handling is not what I'm looking at and again, its Petrol AT sucks. XUV500 is too old to buy now, instead wait for the XUV700.

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Kushaq any day

VAG cars now come with a seven year warranty extension, and in the recent times I have had quite a balanced experience with both VW and Skoda.

Additionally, as already mentioned by GTO - the design and safety aspect. I am quite sure that the VAG won't goof up on the safety aspect, and the design won't age as quickly as that of Creta/Seltos.

So, it has to be the Kushaq 1.5 TSi couple with either of the gearbox. I like the clutch calibration of the VAG cars too and if I have a clutch which gives me exact feel of engagement and disengagement, a strong anti-stall, and a responsive engine - I will be happier to drive the manual than the DSG.

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Since this comparison spans a very wide price range, I've voted based on overall desirability (the oomph factor). The Compass it is for me followed closely by the Harrier! The 2.0 diesel has character and both are very easy to drive cars with the Compass coming very close to the driving feel of my 1st gen. Fiesta.

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Here's a list of pros and cons of each car (according to me). My choice is written at the end.

Compass
+Looks wonderful
+ Drives solidly
+ Feature loaded

- Very expensive as compared to competition
- AT gearbox isn't the best.
- Doesn't feel VFM at all.

Kushaq -
+ Skoda's clean design does wonders for the Kushaq
+ Solidly built, not upto Skoda levels though
+ Front seats are very comfortable

- Cost cutting is highly evident
- Top variant AT doesn't get 6 Airbags
- Expensive for what it offers.

Creta/Seltos -
+ Feature loaded, the Korean twins have made us used to expecting features from a class above
+ Seltos looks good, can't say the same about Creta
+ Competent engines, there is everything for everyone

- Safety takes a big hit
- Price point clashes with bigger SUVs
- Marginally less usable boot space.

Hector -
+ Big and Imposing design and what a looker
+ yet again, has a lot of creature comforts to keep one happy
+ Rear seat has a lot of space

- Reliability is a big concern for me
- Doesn't feel solidly built
- A.S.S isn't flawless yet

Harrier -
+ I just love the design of it
+ Feels wonderful to drive
+ Rear seat again, is very spacious

- Niggles, niggles, niggles
- Isn't very feature loaded as compared to competition
- Heavyy steering wheel at low speeds.

XUV5OO -
+ Looks great
+ Despite being a decade old, it still is solidly built
+ Only one here with the last row of seats

- Despite looking great, you still can't hide the fact that the design is a decade old. It doesn't have the flamboyance and futuristic design of newer rivals.
- Creature comforts are that many as compared to others
- Doesn't get AWD anymore.

T-roc
+ Like other VAG cars, there's a built to last feel
+ Coupe like design may appeal to some
+ Has a lot of show value

- Exorbitant price
- Feels crossoverish in comparison to other SUVs mentioned here
- Backseat doesn't have that much space.

Conclusion
8. For me, I wouldn't consider T-roc
7. Creta - Don't like the design at all plus low safety
6. Seltos - I like the design, but again safety takes a hit
5. Hector - Too many concerns, I would want my car at home rather than at the workshop
4. XUV5OO - Its getting old and a replacement is due soon

3. Kushaq - Looks good but quality isn't Skoda levels
2. Compass - Pricey, but a very nice package
1. Harrier - Wins for me, looks good. If only Tata irons out the niggles.

Note - I would prefer the Safari to Harrier.
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Voted for T-Roc.

If budget isn't any bar, it's T-Roc for me. Being a CBU, safety is a given. It has got most bases covered with the exception of ground clearance. This is certainly the option if one intends to keep the car for 10 years or so. A big miss is the cruise control and no diesel option.

Next best option is Kushaq, a 5 star GNCAP is too much to ask for a car that's been made for India. Else it ticks most boxes except the price. Lack of diesel option is a sore point with both VW and Skoda.

The best option of the lot would've been the diesel AT of Seltos. At the cost of repeating myself, I would say what an amazing package it would've been if not for the botch up on 2.9 safety rating.

For buyers who has the risk appetite and can't compromise on safety and driving dynamics, it's the Compass. But at ~36 lakhs OTR for diesel 4*4 AT, it's not worth the penny for the space it provides.

Creta barring the looks is 80-90% Seltos with Kia pipping the Hyundai by a decent margin on the dynamics front.

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Harrier - I'll weigh it as an option after Tata fires their QC team and bring a new team. Niggles on a car always irks me. I always like my cars to be in top shape. Sorry Tata, just don't have the time to keep coming to your A.S.S to keep it buzzing.

Hector/Hector plus - The design, looks and it's lineage are good enough reasons to stay away. The first test drive of that car left a very bad impression with lousy steering and bad dynamics(in c suv terms) means MG has never been a contender in my book. And no diesel with AT.

XUV 500 - The next gen model is around the corner, and good discounts can be expected.

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I am looking for an exact opposite of a car to our Ecosport S TDCI. MG Hector seems a good one at that. (Softly sprung,Spacious, Smooth CVT, and a humongous boot= happy family cruiser).

When in mood for fun, can always drive the Ecosport, but stiff suspension, rattles my bones in the City, and Hector would definitely help in this regards.
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If budget isn't any bar, it's T-Roc for me. Being a CBU, safety is a given. It has got most bases covered with the exception of ground clearance. This is certainly the option if one intends to keep the car for 10 years or so. A big miss is the cruise control and no diesel option
One of the major drawback of T-roc will be the timely availability of parts. Being a CBU and VW-after sales, i found a big risk in purchasing it . The car is wonderful to drive but I have to let it go due to above concerns during my shopping in the same budget
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Before the Kushaq came out, my pick was the Seltos. But the GNCAP crash data totally changed that opinion as GTO mentioned.

I still do recommend the Kia to many but with a strong rider now that safety is a concern.

But personally it has to be the Skoda Kushaq now. To me it's the perfect upgrade for someone like me with an Ecosport.

When I got my Ecosport it was 9.5L ex showroom in 2013 for the 1.5L Diesel MT. The 1.0L Ecoboost Ecosport was 8.29L at launch and quickly went to 8.66L in 2 months of launch then to 9L 3 months after that. The top of the line Kushaq 1.0L Style MT is a logical comparison with the Ecosport 1.0L Ecoboost. The Ex showroom is 14.6L, roughly 6L more than the Ford when it was launched.

The Kushaq is a perfect upgrade for an Ecosport customer. Reasons:

1. Larger car than the Ford. Rear seat space as well as boot space as well as overall dimensions.
2. 6 speed transmission vs the 5 in Ecoboost.
3. Features like connected tech, LEd lights, ventilated seats
4. Price inflation from 2013 to 2021. The Ecoboost before getting discontinued was 11.9L ex showroom for the S mode that added some connected tech (SYNC3), sunroof, 6th gear and some other features.
5. Premium badge vs the Ford. No matter what people say, Skoda has a higher aspiration quotient than Ford or Kia or Hyundai.

Net net 3L more than Ecosport Ecoboost S gets you a Kushaq.

The AT's in Kushaq are much more expensive and lose 6 airbags which I am miffed about but according to me the Kushaq in 2021 is in essence doing what the Ecosport did 8 years back.

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Jeep Compass has its own territory, but only in the MT. If AT is must, then drop the Jeep and comes the Skoda Kushaq as a good contender. Keeping aside the thoughts of service and reliability of the gear box, their cars are much fun to drive and you get the feel of driving. Kia Seltos Diesel AT is for the family man, since it tries to balances all requirements of a compact family.
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It would be Skoda Kushaq for me!

Reasons for choosing it over other products is its better performance and handling plus manual gear shift and petrol engine .
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Voted for the Jeep Compass. It's rather pricey, but still the best looking car among this lot. It's fun to drive, with a nice diesel engine and importantly (for me), the only car here with all-wheel drive. It's robustly built and has a 5-star Euro NCAP rating. Besides, it's the only one in this list that I've wanted to own.

The Skoda Kushaq would probably be my second choice. Nice package overall.
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Voted for compass. There are a couple of errors regarding the info on compass. Firstly, picture has not been updated. Facelift model looks much more smart. Secondly, they do offer 6 airbags on limited and S versions. 6 airbags can be had with petrol auto, diesel auto and diesel manual. Thirdly, auto dimming IVRM and auto head lamps and wipers have been added as features along with ventilated seats etc in the facelift model. I personally think it has the best interiors of all the cars. They look super premium. Infotainment system is amazing. Solid built along with brilliant ride and handling makes it a joy. Looking it from the outside or sitting inside, always manages to put a smile on my face. Yes, the service network is limited but have been very satisfied with the center in Gurgaon.
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Here's how I look at this segment:

1. Creta/Seltos/Kushaq
I feel that these machines sit in a space that neither has the fun-to-drive benefits of a sedan, nor do they have a proper SUV feel. Personally, I love machines that are great at a few things, even compromising in other areas. Not a fan of jack-of-all-trades vehicles.

2. Jeep Compass
I had a chance to drive this on a 2-week trip to Spiti. I think it is a great package, but it feels closer to the Creta/Seltos duo rather than the Harrier/XUV. I think that's largely because of the space on offer. The rear seat and the boot aren't spacious enough for the price point.

3. XUV500
Great machine, but too old to be relevant anymore.

4. MG Hector/T-Roc
Can't comment as I haven't driven them. But they didn't appeal me enough to draw me in the showroom.

5. Tata Harrier
I have driven the Harrier on a couple of occasions. It is a handful in the city but out on the highway, the Harrier feels like it was built for our Indian roads. The ride and the robust build* gives a feeling that is very unique and has to be experienced. Tata does its best to scare away customers, which is why I'll always be on the fence. But as a machine, nothing comes closer to the Harrier for me.

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None of the above. I will stick with the tried and tested Maruti Suzuki Vitara Brezza. The low cost of ownership, easy availability of spare parts and high resale value are some of the points that pull the Brezza ahead of the other pseudo SUVs.

Creta and Seltos both seem overpriced for what they have to offer. Kushaq is the new kid on the block and hence I will be hesitant to buy before the product has aged by at least 6 to 12 months in the Indian market.
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