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30th October 2021, 23:57 | #1 |
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| Mahindra XUV300: Should I go for the Option Pack or not? Hi everyone, First of all, thank you all for sharing your knowledge/experience on this forum. Without this forum and the contributions everyone has made, car buying would have been a very difficult process. So, thank you. I am in the market to get a safe, spacious 4 wheeler that would be within 15 lakhs. I think I have narrowed down my choices but I need just a little help get through that final dilemma. The car would be mostly for city ride and for occasional drive to nearby tourist places (not really off-road) and fewer than 300 km round trip. Need:
The dilemma I have is related to the options/features between the top 2 trims vs the price charged. OTR for W8(O) is 1.5L more than W8. Features that we get for that additional spend
I am in Bhubaneswar, Odisha and the SAs here gave me initial quote as below. In the initial conversations, no one is budging on price, citing high volume (which is sort of true). But given that this almost year end, do any of you know if there could be additional offers during Nov/Dec? I am guessing, if I book now, I am not going to get future offers. I am not in a hurry, so maybe I should wait till Dec 2 to find out? gives a little bit of time for the sales guys to hopefully give me a better offer Quote received for W8 Petrol MT (Oct 30) Ex show - 10,64,049 TCS - 10,640 Insurance - 42,076 (outside is 25k) Incidental charges - 4,720 (don't know if it is for all Mahindra dealers) Registration - 1,10,573 OTR - 12,26,037 I would really appreciate any inputs you can provide to help me make a thought through decision. |
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31st October 2021, 11:30 | #2 |
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Didn't you forget the sunroof ? IMO the only thing important are the airbags, 6 in total, they removed one airbag and the rear center seatbelt is downgraded to a lap belt, check our related threads. Now its your call on the model and IMO if you have the money get the W8(O) else the W8 is quite competent. A friend wanted the airbags(it was 7 then) and diamond cut alloys but not the sunroof. Neither could he stretch the budget anymore nor did it make sense to spend 1.5 lakhs on it so got the W8 and is quite happy. IMO the alloys are same in size and wouldn't matter when you're driving. Also see how the color combination looks with the available body colours and alloys. I have seen a white W8 and it looks good and assuming the Silver would match as well. No idea on the aftermarkets so will skip that. Ask them to match the insurance quote at the very least and pay attention to the IDV. But good choice on the car Last edited by shancz : 31st October 2021 at 11:34. Reason: ocl cc |
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| re: Mahindra XUV300: Should I go for the Option Pack or not? Quote:
And you are right, I did forgot the sunroof. that's a nice to have too. I don't mind the extra 1.5L, but if I am spending money, I sure want it to be worth that amount. Else, I am better of taking a vacation to Europe instead of spending 1.5L on the upgrade. The diamond cuts are sort of sexy looking. they sure wouldn't matter when I am driving, but so would everything else on the exterior - colour, body shape, style - but we do care about all of those. show off maybe or feel good factor. Mod Note : Please quote ONLY the relevant bits of a post. Quoting a full, long post inconveniences our mobile readers. Thanks! Last edited by Sheel : 31st October 2021 at 16:32. Reason: Mod note attached. | |
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| re: Mahindra XUV300: Should I go for the Option Pack or not? Quote:
Nexon and XUV have best in class rear room, and their 1800mm+ width is evident. Venue is nowhere close. Could it be that it felt cramped that way due to dark interior upholstery? BTW, XUV300 W8(O) comes only with white upholstery, and due to side/curtain airbags, you cannot put seat covers. Maintaining this in the Indian climate and conditions is a nightmare. Rear seat headroom is somewhat true, but liveable from experience. Front/Driver seat is height adjustable and it should not be a problem. | |
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| re: Mahindra XUV300: Should I go for the Option Pack or not? Quote:
But having already moved from 11L for Nexon to 12.8 (possibly 13.8) OTR with the XUV, I wonder if I should just bump up my budget another 2L and get the Creta MT instead. That's sort of towards the maximum I am willing to invest in a car for the next 3 years, or else would have picked up a DCT. My wife definitely is in favor of the Creta. So, in short, if I have to pick the W8(O), I might even switch gears and get the Creta. Have to go look and read the Creta forums now. | |
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| re: Mahindra XUV300: Should I go for the Option Pack or not? Quote:
The current side impact test used by Global NCAP is a relatively simple test, both in test configuration and assessment. It is simply a requirement for five stars for adult occupant protection that the car passes the UN ECE's Regulation 95 test - the bare minimum side impact regulation that a car must pass for a car to be homologated for sale in the EU. Global NCAP did say that the XUV300 had the best side impact performance they had seen at the time (in the description of the test video uploaded to YouTube), which indicates that the XUV300 might score reasonably well even if scored out of 16.00 with upper performance limits for body regions (as will be done starting next year) in the same test configuration, even without side airbags. It is possible, as has been observed for multiple Latin American cars with the same test configuration and assessment in the past. The point is, the side impact test used by Global NCAP is still among the easiest there is, at least that I know of. It uses a 50km/h speed and a 950kg barrier (with a flat face), which is significantly less stringent than that used by many other NCAPs. It's still not a bad test, and does guarantee a minimum regulatory level of side impact protection, but side torso airbags could be of great help at reducing injury in more severe real-world crashes. The more important part is that the test barrier is low and represents a perpendicular side crash with another small car. In most crashes with a tall SUV, or a tall object like a roadside pole or a tree, head-protecting curtain airbags (or combination torso-head airbags mounted in the seats) are very important for reducing severe head trauma and life-threatening brain injury resulting from the head making direct contact with the struck object. NCAPs normally assess the effectiveness of these systems using a lateral pole test - which they allow the manufacturer to sponsor only if side head protection equipment is fitted. Granted, the effectiveness of the XUV300's optional side head protection system has not been independently assessed yet, but without it it is very hard if not impossible to reduce life-threatening injuries in even relatively low-speed side impact crashes with a tall object. Here's a rather juvenile video uploaded by Global NCAP's partner programme, the Australasian NCAP (ANCAP), that qualitatively explains the importance of head-protecting curtain airbags. And here's a 6-second clip from a test visually showing the difference, though I cannot find the injury measures for this test anywhere. Another important safety system that the model's W8(O) trim level is equipped with, that the W8 trim level misses out on, at least based on what I could find, is ESC(Electronic Stability Control), the performance of which has been verified as compliant with the regulatory UN ECE GTR8 robotised sine-dwell test - an important factor that led to the XUV300 winning Global NCAP's coveted Safer Choice Award. This is a potentially life-saving system that has been known to greatly reduce the risk of crashes, primarily those resulting from the sudden steering manoeuvres associated with avoiding an obstacle like a boulder or a cow or buffalo* running out into the road. You can find the GTR8 test video for the XUV300's optional Electronic Stability Control system here (along with its GTR9 pedestrian protection test video): The one safety system that the XUV300 W8(O trim level is equipped with (now for the automated gearbox-variants only (Scoop: Mahindra silently removes driver knee airbag from XUV300 W8(O))), that has not shown to be of great importance is the driver's knee airbag. Here's an article by the IIHS that could be an interesting read. To conclude, the standard-specification XUV300 offers a generally high level of safety performance in Global NCAP tests that is better than most cars tested so far, but if you're looking for a car that offers a level of safety that is closer to that of cars sold in developed markets, I would highly recommend choosing the car with the Option Pack if you are willing to. *the usual example used for ESC tests is the moose in Scandinavian countries but for India I have used what I think is a more suitable example, although I believe they do not run out into the road in the same manner moose do. I have no statistical data to prove that the example I have used is suitable. Last edited by ron178 : 31st October 2021 at 22:00. Reason: Added link to article about knee airbags | |
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| Re: Mahindra XUV300: Should I go for the Option Pack or not? Thank you for taking the time to write down this detailed post. There were a lot of good information that took me some time to go through and analyze, and I think most of those were spot on. Quote:
Excerpt from the study: "Results: Car driver death risk in driver-side crashes was reduced by 37 percent for head protecting airbags and 26 percent for torso-only side airbags. Car driver death risk was reduced for older and younger drivers, males and females, and drivers of small and midsize cars, and when the striking vehicle was an SUV/pickup or a car/minivan. Death risk for drivers of SUVs was reduced by 52 percent with head protecting side airbags and by 30 percent with torso-only airbags" Quote:
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https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/iih...m-knee-airbags "In the analysis of real-world crashes, knee airbags reduced overall injury risk by half a percentage point, from 7.9 percent to 7.4 percent, but this result wasn’t statistically significant." Overall, you are right about the benefits of side airbags and ESC as useful safety features. Readers like me do not properly comprehend the importance, but looking at actual data and videos helps realize the importance better. Thank you again for that informative post. I am now leaning more towards spending the extra bucks and get the Optional trim. | |||
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11th November 2021, 14:12 | #9 | |
BHPian | Re: Mahindra XUV300: Should I go for the Option Pack or not? Quote:
We just took the delivery of W8(O) Diesel MT in Bangalore last week and I can share my thoughts on this (as we went through this debate). Let's first clear the cosmetic upgrades you get:
Now on to the more serious upgrades you get, things that made the W8(O) truly worth the stretch at least according to me.
When we considered the above points, we felt it was worth to do the additional stretch because our budget allowed us to. We are intending to keep the car long-term and hence the lack of features will pinch us more. So if you can stretch the 1.5L, I'd suggest to go for it. Also, please note the below revisions from the Oct'21 manufacturing onwards, that is any XUV3OO W8(O) with "M2K" chassis series:
Along with the above, the earlier modified features are as below:
Also, that insurance quote is JOKE. Seriously, a JOKE. Shake that SA well and he'll drop some coins that's hiding in the pocket. I paid 29.5K for W8(O) Diesel MT which has an ex-showroom of 12.64L (IDV of ~11.8). Took it from the dealership only with B2B nil-dep full cashless - this is Mahindra's own cover which is done through Edelweiss. Don't get any roadside assistance, engine cover and such. You'll get road side assistance package from Mahindra itself and get the shield extended warranty also. Engine protection is already there in basic B2B insurance (the additional engine cover that they usually sell is only in case of flooding AND when you start the car after flooding. If you tow the car after flooding, as per manufacturer recommendations, the basic B2B insurance covers the engine as well - so these are all marketing ploys to con people who don't question enough). All the best for your purchase! Last edited by krishnakumar : 11th November 2021 at 14:30. | |
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