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Well Pavan, why am I not surprised ? There are feelings, then there are opinions, and then there are bare numbers. Easiest to express and understand are always the numbers. Tangible, measureable details. Opinions do help a little, but even these have to be based on numbers. Feelings are just that - feelings. To give an (possibly over-simplified) example : Person A (driving a car) : I think I am going very fast. Person B (also in the car) : How do you say that ? A : I can feel it !! B : Are you sure ? How fast are you going ? A : I feel I am going very very fast. Along comes another car and wooshes past, soon to become just a speck on the road ahead. Of course Mr A was going fast. But the other car was much faster. If we had all measured the speeds, then Mr A may have been doing 80kph. But the other guy was possibly a Lambo @ 200kph. Numbers, Pavan, numbers -easiest to convey actual details. We all know how you feel about your Safari. And no one is going to say anything about that .. you're a true petrol head with the love for your Safari. But if you want us to benefit from your experiences, we can do better with something that's more tangible to us. Hope you get the drift. |
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But, although your last statement holds true in almost all cases, in the case of the Safari, it does not, because of the reputation it has, for being unreliable and high on maintenance. Some other examples: Premier 118NE, Contessa Classic, Yezdi, Uno, Matiz...... None of these have held up their resale prices over the years as well as, for example, CJs, MMs, REs etc. although the former set is also scarcely available. Looks like I am trying to state facts (as I know them, and have been made aware of them from multiple sources), without stirring up a hornet's nest. I just WISH, that Tata makes Safari into a vehicle that can give an owner 5 tension-free years of service. They should/could have done this long back. I have suffered in the past and so have many of my friends, but still I'd love to buy another one someday if it gets improved. | |
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From what I have read in this forum, upto 50K kilometers there is hardly any major maintenance issue, barring cases like bent chassis and deliberately under lubricated engine. What is pertinent is getting a good piece, and that is where the rub comes, as you may land up buying a grossly neglected vehicle, which has been spruced up for sale. In my opinion getting a new vehicle is a better option as most of the niggles as well as major maintenance are taken care of by the normal/extended warranty. As you want a vehicle with ABS and other safety features, your seller pool is much smaller. | |
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Good that you have chosen the Car you want. Its even better that you have chosen the variant you want. In used car search these two are very important. Used car hunt and in particular finding pre-worshipped one is difficult. So now onwards you should keep track of the Sunday Classified, TBHP and Carwale classifieds. Keep watching the prices even for the variants that you dont intend to buy. If any seller is close by, go drive the car and check the condition of the car. This will help when your model with right price comes up. Once a while you do get GX, VX variants with low mileage coming up. So keep hunting. One last bit of advice: Be Patient. | |
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| ![]() @RS_DEL: IMO, you would do well to keep a look out for on sale VX variants too, since that has been around right from the time the 2.2 was introduced. Methinks that a 2.5 - 3 year old VX could be bought for the same price as that of a 1.5 year old GX. If it's been well maintained and has a clean service history, it could be a good bet. |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() RS Del Why go for the lower GX go for a preowned VX today itself - why wait You can get a 2 year old VX 2.2 dicore version for about 6-7L with 2 years of warranty still remaining. It is the best deal in SUV's It is the best choice among preowned SUV's. |
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| ![]() @Mods: Kindly rectify the query/post location if it is not appropriate. The intended vehicle is a Safari. Versions I am looking at Vx/Gx depending on availability/budget. My query stems from my lack of knowledge about need/desirability for 4 X 4. Given that my intended usage is [1] primarily in the nature of a highway cruiser, [2] to a lesser extent on inclined/hilly roads and finally [3] very seldom if ever off the beaten track on country roads, is 4X4 a must have/desirable/superfluous feature. Will appreciate inputs from those who have real world experience with 4X4 and non 4X4 versions. Thanks for any inputs. |
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Going by your intended usage, a 4x4 is not a must-have for you. Morever, it is very difficult to come by a well-maintained used 4x4 Safari. My advice - if you do come across one and if your budget permits, pick it up. However, if you come across a good/well-maintained 2WD example, do not let it go for the want of a 4x4. |
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But, go for the 4x4 if you can and if it is well within your vehicle budget. If not, you never know when you will find yourself wishing you had gone for a 4x4. | |
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| ![]() Today I and my son went to see a 2007 Vx 4X4.Very very perfunctory/casual look at the vehicle. More in the nature of testng the waters, than taking the plunge. Vehicle used by a kid i.e. a young man ( should tell you how dated I am!). General description - () Tyres with a decent amount of tread on them, () Spare wheel cover cracked, () Leather seats in pretty deplorable condition ( cracks/cuts(?) )on them. Service record is available. 45K odd on the Odo. Have asked the dealer to enquire if the owner is willing to provide insurance claim history. Stock ICE setup. No pre-sale jazzing up visible, to me atleast. Paint shows visible signs of big city use i.e. several minor/almost miniscule scratch marks. Asking price 6.75 lacs. Question that I want to find an answer to is - Which service center is best used to have the vehicle inspected. Else where on the forum I have read about incompetence of service center staff esp WRT 4X4 issues. I obviously do not want an inspection by such inept jokers. 4X4 vehicles to my mind ( I am open to correction here) would need a higher level of competence than a non 4X4. Look forward to inputs from NCR based Bhpians using Safari 4X4. Last edited by RS_DEL : 19th November 2010 at 22:58. |
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| ![]() Hello members I and parents are now looking for a bigger vehicle. Currently we own a Alto K10 Vxi (please note i am the proud owner of first K10 on T-bhp!!). My family is now expanding, new baby is going to come and along with that i am also about to get engaged. At present we are family of 5 adult and 1 kid of 4 year. In soon time it will be family of 6 adults and 2 kids. Yesterday i checked out one used safari 2.2 VTT. The exterior was fair, though needed some proper fittings of bumper and all. The interior was not clean, although the dealer promised me to get all the things proper if the deal is finalised. Some points i want to discuss in here and also seek gurus advice. Some things that i noted were as follows : The middle door on the left side needs some muscle power to close it, can this problem be easily solved ? I guess there is sort of AC vent under the seat in the last cabin. On the right seat it seemed like broken. Can it be repaired ? The hub cap in the front wheel was cracked. Does it need replacement ? This safari dicor is a 2006 EX variant and has clocked 70000 kms. Taking into considerations is it worth a buy ? I am a bit tempted at the cosmetic appearance since it has been well maintained. Need your advice guys. Also would like to add that the dealer has promised full servicing before delivering me the vehicle. |
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I would recomend that you go in for end 2008- start 2009 2.2 Dicore with 1-2 years of extended warranty still remaning for about 6-7L in EX, GX or VX trim. Also for a Family of 6+ 2 kids Safari will NOT be comfortable as it can at max take 5 adults + 2 kids and for you config a Grande Mark II or a Xylo or a Scorpio with front facing seats would be better. Last edited by ACM : 26th April 2011 at 13:17. | |
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