1959 Willys - Is Matador diesel suitable?

jenz · 8th April 2009, 15:41

hey guys - i have 3 willys jeeps and having trouble with the classic of them all - a 1959 model one whcih laid in my house unused for 8 years as I work abroad - I need to replace the engine (low cost ) and found one - Matador and a 4 speed gear box for 12,000.

Is this a sound option? My other 2 willys have peugeot. Any suggestions guys.

V-16 · 8th April 2009, 16:20

Firstly welcome to te Forum Jenz. Great to know you have 3 Jeeps. Could you post pics and info of your Jeeps please.
While you are at it may i suggest you go through the board rules to get yourself acquainted of the Forum's ways.

A diesel why why would you even consider that unless the Jeeps already missing the engine.

If you still are persistent to change the engine, i would be interested in the original petrol engine.

JayD · 8th April 2009, 16:23

Does it still have the original petrol engine? If so, any plans for sale?

V-16 · 8th April 2009, 16:27

Too late JayD: Beat you to it.

kkr2k2 · 8th April 2009, 18:00

Is the matador engine same as the one which came in the W123 240D?

If yes, will it perform better than the stock willy's engine.

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How about auctioning off your old engine

Raj.

jenz · 9th April 2009, 13:11

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Originally Posted by V-16

Firstly welcome to te Forum Jenz. Great to know you have 3 Jeeps. Could you post pics and info of your Jeeps please.
While you are at it may i suggest you go through the board rules to get yourself acquainted of the Forum's ways.

A diesel why why would you even consider that unless the Jeeps already missing the engine.

If you still are persistent to change the engine, i would be interested in the original petrol engine.

Hi guys - yeah - jeep engine is dead and rusted - water seeped inside - if you see the snaps i got from my cousin - it willbreak any jeep lovers heart.... its presently given in a garage to do full works --

I presonaly prefer a isuzu petrol engine but cant find any fast. Are you in mumbai ? Any chance you can source one from chor bazaare or any other place - my brotehr works in mumbai and can bring with him when he drives down to kerala.

How good is matador in a jeep ? I am not very good at tech stuf and most that i know are from this forum.

Will try to upload some pics of its present sad condition

jenz · 9th April 2009, 13:21

Ok guys - the heart breaking pics follow

jeepster · 21st May 2009, 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenz

hey guys - i have 3 willys jeeps and having trouble with the classic of them all - a 1959 model one whcih laid in my house unused for 8 years as I work abroad - I need to replace the engine (low cost ) and found one - Matador and a 4 speed gear box for 12,000.

Is this a sound option? My other 2 willys have peugeot. Any suggestions guys.

hello jenz,

do you want to keep 4x4 ?
if yes , then

look in 4x4 section of t-bhp.

or ask DHABHAR BEHRAM sir or U.B.Singh they will happily help you .

anjan_c2007 · 23rd May 2009, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jenz

hey guys - i have 3 willys jeeps and having trouble with the classic of them all - a 1959 model one whcih laid in my house unused for 8 years as I work abroad - I need to replace the engine (low cost ) and found one - Matador and a 4 speed gear box for 12,000.

Is this a sound option? My other 2 willys have peugeot. Any suggestions guys.

The Matador OM 616 diesel was fitted to many jeeps and even Ambassadors earlier. The Perkins P4 too was a perfect fit.The Mahindra MD 2350 is also quite OK. The problem with many of these diesels is that they intrude into the front passenger compartment at the centre before the gear lever. Hence body alteration may also be needed to slice off the body below the dash and allow the engine to intrude and then weld sheets to cover up. I am not aware as to whether you had to do such body alteration for the Peugeot diesels.

adrian · 3rd December 2009, 11:42

I have been off the net for a long time, but I think the matador engine is quiet harsh on your gear box.

MileCruncher · 6th December 2009, 00:27

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Originally Posted by adrian

I have been off the net for a long time, but I think the matador engine is quiet harsh on your gear box.

As much as I understood, he has sourced the entire drive train (engine + Transmission) of the Matador. Am a layman at this but wouldn't the transfer case also need to be changed as they would have gear ratios suitable to petrol engine. If the vehicle is not going to used regularly, I would think a decent petrol engine would be the way to go.

Also I know people here in Hyderabad having the Series 40 Toyota LC have fitted the Qualis 75 Bhp diesel engine

MileCruncher · 6th December 2009, 07:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrian

I have been off the net for a long time, but I think the matador engine is quiet harsh on your gear box.

As much as I understood, he has sourced the entire drive train (engine + Transmission) of the Matador. Am a layman at this but wouldn't the transfer case also need to be changed as they would have gear ratios suitable to petrol engine. If the vehicle is not going to used regularly, I would think a decent petrol engine would be the way to go.

Also I know people here in Hyderabad having the Series 40 Toyota LC have fitted the Qualis 75 Bhp diesel engine

8th April 2009, 15:41	#1
jenz Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	1959 Willys - Is Matador diesel suitable? hey guys - i have 3 willys jeeps and having trouble with the classic of them all - a 1959 model one whcih laid in my house unused for 8 years as I work abroad - I need to replace the engine (low cost ) and found one - Matador and a 4 speed gear box for 12,000. Is this a sound option? My other 2 willys have peugeot. Any suggestions guys.
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8th April 2009, 16:20	#2
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 950 Times View My Garage	Firstly welcome to te Forum Jenz. Great to know you have 3 Jeeps. Could you post pics and info of your Jeeps please. While you are at it may i suggest you go through the board rules to get yourself acquainted of the Forum's ways. A diesel why why would you even consider that unless the Jeeps already missing the engine. If you still are persistent to change the engine, i would be interested in the original petrol engine.
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JayD Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cochin! At last Posts: 3,236 Thanked: 2,568 Times View My Garage	Does it still have the original petrol engine? If so, any plans for sale?
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V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 950 Times View My Garage	Too late JayD: Beat you to it.
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kkr2k2 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Melbourne, Hyd Posts: 1,294 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	Is the matador engine same as the one which came in the W123 240D? If yes, will it perform better than the stock willy's engine. ---- How about auctioning off your old engine Raj.
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jenz Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	Ok guys - the heart breaking pics follow Attached Thumbnails
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adrian BHPian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 932 Thanked: 1,215 Times	I have been off the net for a long time, but I think the matador engine is quiet harsh on your gear box.
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