[Insane Devil]

Hi everybody,

well, i am in a big fix and need ur advises.

I am currently driving a 2003 Scorpio Dx. its clocked 50,000 now, and i plan to buy a new SUV in September.

My choices i have narrowed down to
1. FORD ENDEAVOUR
2. HYUNDAI TUCSON

I simply loved both these vehicles for its own goods.

1. I love huge beasty vehicles, so yea, i luv the Endeavour for that, but am worried abt the mileage as i have lot of traveling now on.

2. I love the Tucson's CRDI Engine and its Fuel Efficiency (10+ in city as i heard)

Now guys, I need ur frank opinions and advises on this issue, and need some feedback regarding these questions...

1. Mileage of the cars, geniunely what users r getting now in CITY conditions, with AC on 24/7. (At the FORD Showroom here, they told me that the 2WD model will give an average of 9.5 to 10 in city, definately!, also they said me to go for the 4x2 model as the 4x4 will give even less mileage due to around 100kg of extra weight for the 4x4 system.)

2. Maintainence Costs: How much does the bill come up to for a regular servicing, and how frequent is the servicing (i.e every 5k or 10k kms)?

3. I will be keeping this vehicle for atleast 4 years for sure.so seeing that which is recommended

4. As TUCSON has jus come, How is the Maintainences on Ford Endeavour? regular faults keep coming up? because FORD is known for exorbitant spare part pricing...


Please do help me out guys, i luv both the vehicles, but can buy only one

thanx a lot!

asta lavista.


PS: The Ford Endeavour DOES NOT have DRIVER SEAT HEIGHT ADJUSTMENT in any of its models. I have clarified it with the dealer just yesterday.

[turbo_lover]

i went to the Hyundai showroom to check out the Tuscon ..

boy its one sweet ride ..i loved the styling the dual exhaust pipes low downstance wide look ..looks wicked ! ..interiors -centre console is tilted towards the driver, button positioning was within reach ,well spaced gear lever borrowed from the getz , a bit plasticky but it's all good i was really impressed with the overall look and feel of the car ..some how reminds me of the X3 ..

they didnt have a test car available then (i had to wait for an hour) ,so i cant say much about that ..however the eprformance figures look pretty satisfactory (0-100 13 secs)..and CRDi is a very FE engine... it is however a FWD when the 4wd mode is switched off.. TCS and 4wd are both standard options ...

Endeavour - is very outdated ..the model has been globally discontinued quite a while back..interiors not even worth mentioning .. it feels more like a truck ..i 'd never say it feels like an SUV ,( CR-V does )..there is no shift on the fly..old school shift lever ..dont expect more than 8kmpl in city from the endeavour 10 would be too optimistic ..

go test drive both ..i am sure you'll be impressed with the Tuscon

[deepakhon]

If you are waiting almost till the end of this year, why not wait for Toyota Fortuner?

[tsk1979]

This months bsmotoring carries the comparison. The sumup,
If you are a rich chicken farmer who lives on the farm and drives offroad most of the time go for the ford, otherwise go for the Tuscon

[GTO]

Between the two, I would recommend the Tucson any day. None of them are hard core off-roaders, so the Endavours slight advantage is negated.

But the Endeavour is really sluggish. Believe me, its a pain in daily bumper to bumper traffic conditions. And the ride quality is absolutely pathetic. I can tolerate that in my Jeep, but not in a million rupee SUV. I know of many potential buyers who have walked away from the Endeavour after experiencing the bone jarring ride in an initial test drive.

Tucson : Advantage engine. CRDi is to die for! I presume that the service quality will be way better and more cost-effective with the Tucson vis a vis the Ford.

GTO

[Samurai]

The latest issue of BS Motoring has a detailed road test comparing the two, check it out.

[Boom Shiva]

Endeavour looks huge, but its only looks. The engine is damn small and puny. That would definitely affect your FE, especially in the city, because you'll be straining the engine just to get the big lump moving. Also, it's a Ford, so you'll have lots of issues with parts, service and resale (Ford's don't have any).

Go for the Tucson or wait for the Fortuner.

[deepakhon]

I should have checked it before posting. In my previous post, I had asked you to wait for Fortuner. According to ACI, Fortuner is not expected till mid of 2006 as Toyota is currently tied up with Innova and they do not have enough capacity to start manufacturing Fortuner. I guess they are also looking at the option of importing the parts which might step up the cost.

Between Tuscon and Endeavour, I'd say Tuscon. Its CRDI is good and powerful enough and also fuel effecient as compared to the dated engine of Endeavour. If you are not really so particular about FE, then I guess Subaru Forester is also a good option if you can live with its looks and the fact that it is a petrol car/SUV/whatever.

[Insane Devil]

wow Wow wow!

so so so many praises for the Tucson, then it gotta be great

i just did a testdrive of it, and the endeavour too. The Tucson is real nice , i did feel the engine very silent and quick, and the sales guy says expected City Mileage with 100% AC is around 13kmpl!

Ford, well, just love the looks, it looks beasty, but 8kmpl mileage is too low for me, as i drive around 100km per day!

guys,
How are these both cars on highway? maintainence?
Regd. Maintainence, the ford ppl saying that as its a thai version, the spareparts are coming from thailand, so its very economically priced. now i wonder how far is it true that they are "economically priced". i had a very bad "un-economical" experience with them few yeras back with a ford escort!

in Hyderabad, none of these 2 vehicles are having any discounts, so its fixed prices.
OnRoad cost for Tucson: 16,12,000
OnRoad Cost for the Ford: 15,59,000

Lastly, about the Tucson's Tyres. they r very thin, i feel. 215/65/16.
what is the upgrade size i can put if i want something nice and broad? which make?

thanx for the replies, everybody! really appreciate it.

[Insane Devil]

Originally Posted by deepakhon

I should have checked it before posting. In my previous post, I had asked you to wait for Fortuner. According to ACI, Fortuner is not expected till mid of 2006 as Toyota is currently tied up with Innova and they do not have enough capacity to start manufacturing Fortuner. I guess they are also looking at the option of importing the parts which might step up the cost.

Between Tuscon and Endeavour, I'd say Tuscon. Its CRDI is good and powerful enough and also fuel effecient as compared to the dated engine of Endeavour. If you are not really so particular about FE, then I guess Subaru Forester is also a good option if you can live with its looks and the fact that it is a petrol car/SUV/whatever.

hi deepak, Thanx for the info on that. I also heard that the Toyota Fortuner will be priced a couple of lakhs more than the CRV which will then go beyond my budget. and i want to buy the vehicle in this month.

And yea, FE is most important as my running is around 100km per day! so no petrols for me

[Rtech]

Holy crap! almost 16 lakhs for the Ford, which is basically a truck! Talk about ripping of the public...

[turbo_lover]

Toyota Fortuner will be priced a couple of lakhs more than the CRV which will then go beyond my budget

fortuner is poised to enter at the higher segmented SUV such as the terracan

autocar tested the Endeavour to give 7.3kmpl in city conditions ..
fords are known for their high maitainence costs ... endeavour has been discontinued globally ,how long will the spares be available from thailand ?endeavour is old school even our safaris comes with a shift on the fly !

Tuscon - is a new car fresh looks comes fully loaded with features and currently are CBUs from korea ...CRDi's are very economical ,so i'd believe that the hyundai dude is not being too optimistic if he claims a 13 ...

its you call buddy .. make it a good one

cheers

[Steeroid]

Originally Posted by Insane Devil

Ford, well, just love the looks, it looks beasty, but 8kmpl mileage is too low for me, as i drive around 100km per day!

The 'Butch' look is the only point in favour of the Ford. This is fine if you spend most of your time outside the vehicle, staring at it. Sit inside and you'll get tossed around like you were in the rearmost seat of a state transport bus (the ones without shock absorbers since most of them are stolen and sold by the employees) on a C Grade panchayat road.

The engine is also inadequate for a vehicle of this size and weight.

At just Rs.60,000/- more the Tucson is a knockout winner. Dont even bother considering the explorer, which as Rtech rightly pointed out is a Ford Ranger pickup truck with a body. For comparison throw your mind back to the days when the Tatamobile came out and bodybuilders like Nicholas were busy building estate bodies around the pickup - the Explorer is a more glamourized and better built example of such work.

Hyundai service is better and spares are usually cheaper, too.

I thought the Explorer was much cheaper - I remember somebody mentioning 11 Lakhs when I inquired once...

[DCEite]

Well for the first time in my life, i would recommend a Hyundai over other brand...

Their is no competetion dude, i have test driven the Tucson my self, and it feels peppy for a vehicle of its size.. but the drawback being that their is no third row seating.. otherwise, it clearly outscores the truck called Endeavour..

[Beemer]

Hyundai tucson without a doubt but hang on i do suggest endeavour but only if you are having a digestion problem ...... All digestion problems will be well taken care of .

Dude to be honest i don't recommend endeavour even if it is the last vehicle left on the earth . I simply hate it , the worst vehicle i ve ever driven .