Xylo D2 vs E4 ? Is D2 variant a good buy ?

TheARUN · 6th February 2011, 17:23

Excellent write up Haria, enjoyed all your comments, they were very educative.

I've also been thinking about the XYLO a lot since my SAFARI is getting a bit long in the tooth

First things first - The E4 is for the personal vehicle market and the D2 is for the taxi market. Period

About the different characteristics of the engines, see at what RPM the torque is made, that's very important. I think the D2 makes it torque much lower than the E4 and that explains its easy driveability

Also prefer the side facing jump seats of the D2 than the full bench of the E4, because if you have to carry 6 people and luggage, then you can have luggage stacked up on one side and have the passenger on the other side, the INNOVA does this brilliantly but I found this pretty useful in the SAFARI. With the E4 its going to be either people or luggage.

The tyres of the D2 are inadequate and you could go for some good GEOLANDERS once the budget permits later on with some cool alloys

About driving in the city, its easier to drive a bigger vehicle since other road users respect you. In the XYLO and the GRANDE you sit hing up than even the SAFARI and that helps a lot. About reversing, I usually make a round of the vehicle taking into account the environment around and then use the mirrors to reverse out of gaps.

What I want to know is, are there any variants on the D2? Like, a stripped down version with no power-windows or AC and such? or is there only one version?

Keep going mate, you are doing the right things. The only time you get to use your brains is before the decision is made, once you sign up on the dotted line, then there is no use thinking about what could have been, so enjoy the tension

johnjojo08 · 6th February 2011, 23:51

One of my collegue recently baught D2 and he is very happy with it. He rode both E4 and D2. He was saying that D2 requires very gear changes(due to LET) , so it is very easy to ride in traffic. He is getting mileage of 14 - 15 KM/Ltr in highway. I things it will improve after 5k kilometers. He was earlier inclined towards Bolero, but after test riding Xylo he changed his decision. Due to budget constraint and mileage he opted D2. It cost him around 6.9 Lac on road with side steps. He got 2011 version, the side steps were removed from 2011 version due to cost cutting by Mahindra. 2011 version is known as BS IV/V. The 2010 version was knows as BS IV/III. I don't know why?.

haria · 7th February 2011, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnjojo08

Due to budget constraint and mileage he opted D2. It cost him around 6.9 Lac on road with side steps. He got 2011 version

ooooh!! the onroad cost @ bangalore is 8.07 L without sidesteps!! Is the tax difference so much between states ??

has your colleageue taken D2 yellow board ? I believe that is around 7.2L in bangalore .

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheArun

What I want to know is, are there any variants on the D2? Like, a stripped down version with no power-windows or AC and such? or is there only one version?

Nope. Not to my knowledge. There are no sub-variants of D2. I believe there was an E2 in the initial days, but that has been discontinued now.

recker_us · 9th February 2011, 12:13

Does it help buying a yellow board for personal use if that comes so cheap in bangalore? I might be missing any information hidden in *** which probabaly makes yellow board cheaper in blore.

johnjojo08 · 9th February 2011, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by haria

ooooh!! the onroad cost @ bangalore is 8.07 L without sidesteps!! Is the tax difference so much between states ??

has your colleageue taken D2 yellow board ? I believe that is around 7.2L in bangalore .
.

Sorry that was a typo.. It was 7.9 Lac on road.

ACM · 10th February 2011, 14:36

My suggestion for you in order of what I believe will suite you best.

1) Pre owned Safari EX- Save money for any issues later- about 6L with 2 years warranty remaining imposing and sits 5 most comfy + can take 7 when required.

2) New Safari LX - about 9L OTR - with advantages as above.

Safari would compared to the options considered by you give the most owning pride, but there are likely to be minor niggles.

3) Grande Mark II - Seats 7 comfy, good engine, Spacious, imposing.

4) Xylo E4 - not D2 - If you drive yourself better engine is required. Also better tyres will imply better stability which is something that Xylo missing out on - 60K plus is worth it.

5) Preowned Innova - This after the first 2 months or so could give as much pleasure to own as any of the above. Spares are expensive, but not much is expected to go wrong. Better product than the Xylos.

haria · 10th February 2011, 20:12

@ ACM : Thanks for your suggestions. I did not TD safari. Couple of my friends who were having safari told while it's a great vehicle on the highway, managing in the city was not very easy. Also their maintenance bills seems to be on the higher side (avg service bills were 8 - 12k)

I did test drive Grande, found it real nifty to manage, but was not too impressed either by its interiors or the comfort level. Felt that XYLO was far better VFM in this department.

Getting good preowned innova's is not very easy. And also it will almost have the same rate as a NEW xylo or basic scorpio. Hence not considering this. In fact not too keen on pre-owned vehicles at this juncture.

Quote:

Originally Posted by recker_us

Does it help buying a yellow board for personal use if that comes so cheap in bangalore? I might be missing any information hidden in *** which probabaly makes yellow board cheaper in blore.

No, it doesn't really make any sense buying a yellow board for personal use. Granted, your initial tax might be smaller, but there are too many hassles. You need to be in uniform, you can't travel inter-state (have to pay tax each time), you will be subject to more stringent checks by the cops, etc. etc. Not at all worth the trouble

6th February 2011, 17:23	#31
TheARUN Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,373 Thanked: 958 Times View My Garage	Re: Xylo D2 vs E4 ? Is D2 variant a good buy ? Excellent write up Haria, enjoyed all your comments, they were very educative. I've also been thinking about the XYLO a lot since my SAFARI is getting a bit long in the tooth First things first - The E4 is for the personal vehicle market and the D2 is for the taxi market. Period About the different characteristics of the engines, see at what RPM the torque is made, that's very important. I think the D2 makes it torque much lower than the E4 and that explains its easy driveability Also prefer the side facing jump seats of the D2 than the full bench of the E4, because if you have to carry 6 people and luggage, then you can have luggage stacked up on one side and have the passenger on the other side, the INNOVA does this brilliantly but I found this pretty useful in the SAFARI. With the E4 its going to be either people or luggage. The tyres of the D2 are inadequate and you could go for some good GEOLANDERS once the budget permits later on with some cool alloys About driving in the city, its easier to drive a bigger vehicle since other road users respect you. In the XYLO and the GRANDE you sit hing up than even the SAFARI and that helps a lot. About reversing, I usually make a round of the vehicle taking into account the environment around and then use the mirrors to reverse out of gaps. What I want to know is, are there any variants on the D2? Like, a stripped down version with no power-windows or AC and such? or is there only one version? Keep going mate, you are doing the right things. The only time you get to use your brains is before the decision is made, once you sign up on the dotted line, then there is no use thinking about what could have been, so enjoy the tension
	() Thanks

6th February 2011, 23:51	#32
johnjojo08 BANNED Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 119 Thanked: 60 Times	Re: Xylo D2 vs E4 ? Is D2 variant a good buy ? One of my collegue recently baught D2 and he is very happy with it. He rode both E4 and D2. He was saying that D2 requires very gear changes(due to LET) , so it is very easy to ride in traffic. He is getting mileage of 14 - 15 KM/Ltr in highway. I things it will improve after 5k kilometers. He was earlier inclined towards Bolero, but after test riding Xylo he changed his decision. Due to budget constraint and mileage he opted D2. It cost him around 6.9 Lac on road with side steps. He got 2011 version, the side steps were removed from 2011 version due to cost cutting by Mahindra. 2011 version is known as BS IV/V. The 2010 version was knows as BS IV/III. I don't know why?.
	() Thanks

9th February 2011, 12:13	#34
recker_us BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 189 Thanked: 28 Times	Re: Xylo D2 vs E4 ? Is D2 variant a good buy ? Does it help buying a yellow board for personal use if that comes so cheap in bangalore? I might be missing any information hidden in *** which probabaly makes yellow board cheaper in blore.
	() Thanks

10th February 2011, 14:36	#36
ACM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,745 Thanked: 4,361 Times View My Garage	Re: Xylo D2 vs E4 ? Is D2 variant a good buy ? My suggestion for you in order of what I believe will suite you best. 1) Pre owned Safari EX- Save money for any issues later- about 6L with 2 years warranty remaining imposing and sits 5 most comfy + can take 7 when required. 2) New Safari LX - about 9L OTR - with advantages as above. Safari would compared to the options considered by you give the most owning pride, but there are likely to be minor niggles. 3) Grande Mark II - Seats 7 comfy, good engine, Spacious, imposing. 4) Xylo E4 - not D2 - If you drive yourself better engine is required. Also better tyres will imply better stability which is something that Xylo missing out on - 60K plus is worth it. 5) Preowned Innova - This after the first 2 months or so could give as much pleasure to own as any of the above. Spares are expensive, but not much is expected to go wrong. Better product than the Xylos.
	() Thanks