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Old 26th December 2017, 11:29   #10321
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Re: A superb Car cleaning, polishing & detailing guide

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Can you suggest any effective and specific compound?

I was considering Meg. 105.
1. Rubbing compound cut heavier. Should be used for deeper scratches
https://www.amazon.in/Waxpol-Rubbing...bbing+compound

2. For milder scratches get the 3M one step finishing compound
https://www.amazon.in/3M-IA260165237...bbing+compound
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Old 26th December 2017, 14:09   #10322
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Can you suggest any effective and specific compound?

I was considering Meg. 105.
I use 3M Rubbing Compound that comes in thick liquid form followed by Glaze.
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Old 26th December 2017, 23:47   #10323
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Proklear SFC and Meguiars Hi Tech Yellow Wax 26

Hi,

I wash my car once in three months and this time I tried Proklear Snow Foam Concentrate (SFC) which I had bought some time ago.

I used this concentrate in 1.5 Litre spray gun with the attachment (wire mesh) provided in the pack. I could not capture picture of the foam but I can say that it was nowhere close to the foam we see using pressure washers.

However I am pleased with the final results after spending close to 3 hours.

Proklear SFC

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Meguiars Hi Tech Yellow Wax 26

This requires hard work during buffing.

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After cleaning with SFC and wiping

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After applying single coat of wax

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Regards.
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Old 27th December 2017, 09:49   #10324
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However I am pleased with the final results after spending close to 3 hours. This requires hard work during buffing.
Awesome gloss & so easily visible on your white car. Impressive job and car maintenance.

Meguiar's #26 rocks as do many of their waxes.

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Old 27th December 2017, 11:28   #10325
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1. Rubbing compound cut heavier. Should be used for deeper scratches
https://www.amazon.in/Waxpol-Rubbing...bbing+compound

2. For milder scratches get the 3M one step finishing compound
https://www.amazon.in/3M-IA260165237...bbing+compound
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I use 3M Rubbing Compound that comes in thick liquid form followed by Glaze.
How many layers should be applied on these deep cut scratches btw?
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How many layers should be applied on these deep cut scratches btw?
Did you scrape a brick wall or something similar?

Please understand that no amount of 'layers' from a rubbing compound or polish can restore the shown area to it's previous glory.

Polishes / compounds act by virtue of removing a micro thin layer of paint/clearcoat to bring the scratched area back level with adjacent areas. Some polishes have fillers, so those may fill the gashes to a certain extent.
Layering is mainly for glazes / waxes / sealants.

In your case, please wash the scratched area with a good shampoo. Then pour water - if you can see the scratch while water is flowing over it, you need a repaint and nothing less. If not, compounding, followed by filler heavy polishing, shall make the visual impact much less.

Another test is to see if your fingernail is getting caught in the scratch - if it is, polishing / compounding may reduce the eyesore, but won't magically heal the paint.

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How many layers should be applied on these deep cut scratches btw?
As quoted by Blackasta, you will not be able to remove the scratch completely. Rubbing compounds are only for repairing damages to clear coat. If the base is gone, nothing but repainting will help.
Also rubbing compound is not applied in layers as it has to be removed after application so you can say number of applications. It depends on the result; you will be able to see after you apply and then decide if 2nd application is required or not. For the damage in the picture, it will hardly make a difference but you can use it in other damages for which you had displayed the pictures earlier.
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Old 28th December 2017, 13:18   #10328
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Did you scrape a brick wall or something similar?
There was a brick wall and unfortunately the car touched the same while turning. Fortunately, the area of the scratch is small.

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Please understand that no amount of 'layers' from a rubbing compound or polish can restore the shown area to it's previous glory.

Polishes / compounds act by virtue of removing a micro thin layer of paint/clearcoat to bring the scratched area back level with adjacent areas. Some polishes have fillers, so those may fill the gashes to a certain extent.
Layering is mainly for glazes / waxes / sealants.
Thank you for the detailed info. I'm a novice in this aspect.

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In your case, please wash the scratched area with a good shampoo. Then pour water - if you can see the scratch while water is flowing over it, you need a repaint and nothing less. If not, compounding, followed by filler heavy polishing, shall make the visual impact much less.
Can you please suggest an effective shampoo?

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Another test is to see if your fingernail is getting caught in the scratch - if it is, polishing / compounding may reduce the eyesore, but won't magically heal the paint.
Will do the check, I just need to reduce it since repainting is ruled out.

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As quoted by Blackasta, you will not be able to remove the scratch completely. Rubbing compounds are only for repairing damages to clear coat. If the base is gone, nothing but repainting will help.
Also rubbing compound is not applied in layers as it has to be removed after application so you can say number of applications. It depends on the result; you will be able to see after you apply and then decide if 2nd application is required or not. For the damage in the picture, it will hardly make a difference but you can use it in other damages for which you had displayed the pictures earlier.
Yes, this might be the option for the minor scratch.
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Any suggestions on DIY to fix these blemishes on non-metal (bumper) areas?
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Any suggestions on DIY to fix these blemishes on non-metal (bumper) areas?
Those are scrapes and they're deep which has resulted in the black plastic base material bumper showing up clearly.

You will need to repaint the bumper or at least those affected areas. Generally ASCs do only the full bumper. You may want to contact an independent paint shop to ask if they can help with painting only over the scratched areas. Touch up will look shabby so spray paint is the only real option.
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Those are scrapes and they're deep which has resulted in the black plastic base material bumper showing up clearly.

You will need to repaint the bumper or at least those affected areas. Generally ASCs do only the full bumper. You may want to contact an independent paint shop to ask if they can help with painting only over the scratched areas. Touch up will look shabby so spray paint is the only real option.
The one on the front left was caused by a jutting pavement stone while parallel parking.

The one on the rear left was caused by an impatient bus.

The one on the rear right was caused by a jutting pavement stone (again) while taking a 3 point turn.

Yes, I do agree that a full paint job of the bumpers would be required. I was wondering if there would be a simple DIY to fix them.
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Will do the check, I just need to reduce it since repainting is ruled out.
First, if any of your scratches are showing bare metal, you must get that metal covered in paint, whether by a proper job or a touch up. Rust attacks fast, and then you are on the way to having a hole rather than a scratch!

Second, yes, repainting a panel is quite expensive, but you can have touch-up painting done that will improve the appearance of your car, at least from a distance. You can search the forum for experiences of those who have done this themselves.

A few years ago, I had a couple of small dents/scuffs touched up by the main dealer at service time. I declined the proper repair at that time and they just dabbed a little paint on it. Being a dealer service station, they had the exact paints to hand, and were good enough to do it free for me. Just being the right colour made the damage "disappear" from over ten feet away! Literally, just a dab, with no attempt at "feathering" (sanding) it in, achieved this.

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First, if any of your scratches are showing bare metal, you must get that metal covered in paint, whether by a proper job or a touch up. Rust attacks fast, and then you are on the way to having a hole rather than a scratch!
Thank goodness (touch wood), there aren't any on the metal.
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Question. Supposing I wax my car every 6 months. Will i have to clay it every time before a waxing? Or can I just add an additional layer or wax after a wash? Cheers.
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Can you please suggest an effective shampoo?
Plenty of options available - choose any from the below lists:

https://www.detailedclean.in/Washing...Wash-Shampoos/

https://www.greenzcarcare.com/collec...nance/Shampoos

I personally do not like 'wash n wax' type of shampoos.

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Any suggestions on DIY to fix these blemishes on non-metal (bumper) areas?
Get the paint code (should be mentioned on a stamped sheet / sticker on your car itself) & get a can of paint for that code (com paint is a brand which i have used).
Spray a little paint in a plastic cup, and use a cotton swab to slowly patch the area. Long scratches are better done with a toothpick. Apply multiple coats after gaps of 24 hrs. Then finally sand down to the level of adjacent paint, and then polish.


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Question. Supposing I wax my car every 6 months. Will i have to clay it every time before a waxing? Or can I just add an additional layer or wax after a wash? Cheers.
Claying would remove everything on top of paint, including stuck on impurities and wax. Additional layer after a wash should be good enough, if your car is not very dirty or very contaminated.
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