Engine Remapping

Exo · 12th March 2006, 12:33

Very interesting! Hmm, I'm thinking you up the raze somewhat and let the mototr rev higher?

naveendhyani, just out of pure curiosity did you arive at 115 from higher raze as well and reving harder? Because I'm not very good at building long lasting motors and came with that figure myself, by a few "cheap n dirty" hacks like cap/res changes to "fool" the ecu into increasing the rev's, that does work on most 4age's though(obviosly noone I know is willing to try my idea's out though lol).

PS, how much for a remap?

Boom Shiva · 12th March 2006, 12:47

Viper, do let us know. I'd be very interested in something for the Optra.

anarchist · 13th March 2006, 17:31

Hi I am interested to know if the remap can be achieved for the Swift 1.3L and if yes what would be the costs for the same?

BUSA · 13th March 2006, 17:54

viper wish you all the best and hoping to see positive reply from you soon.

barbar · 13th March 2006, 19:40

Yeah n somethin for the NHC...

ZenGT · 14th March 2006, 09:14

remappin for n e petrol mpfi vehicle is available... so pm me for more details...

fs

viper · 14th March 2006, 14:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGT

remappin for n e petrol mpfi vehicle is available... so pm me for more details...

fs

Hey,

Do you do the remaps in Mumbai itself and how much time does it take and what does it cost(approx for say a Getz and Honda City) which shoul dinclude removal of revlimiter.

Viper

nos_nitrous · 14th March 2006, 16:28

hey people..i saw on tv that the lancer cedia..which in other countries is tuned to turn out 135 horses has been detuned to about 110...is there anyone who retunes it bak to 135?

ksethuram · 14th March 2006, 16:35

Why not the car manufacturers have this option open for car buyers who can choose horses at their wish...may be like 1.4litres(90 or 110), 1.6(98 or 120) etc...

Exo · 16th March 2006, 16:28

Does anyone have info like pin-outs for these engines? I think a baleno could do 120 without too much hasle, take a look at this article: http://www.4age.net/tech/efimod.htm

It's for the 4ag series but think the basic concept aplies to many other engines.

naveendhyani · 16th March 2006, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo

Does anyone have info like pin-outs for these engines? I think a baleno could do 120 without too much hasle, take a look at this article: http://www.4age.net/tech/efimod.htm

It's for the 4ag series but think the basic concept aplies to many other engines.

thanx exo for this info!

i went thru this, mayb i will traslate this 2 my local guy in hindia

and lets see what he can do about this. i m sure this will decrease the FE of the car but who cares for a shot or 2 down the highway.

s0uljah · 16th March 2006, 20:45

^^^ 120 @ Baleno, would pretty much rock your world !!

mclaren1885 · 16th March 2006, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exo

Does anyone have info like pin-outs for these engines? I think a baleno could do 120 without too much hasle, take a look at this article: http://www.4age.net/tech/efimod.htm

It's for the 4ag series but think the basic concept aplies to many other engines.

u expect to gain 25+ bhp by adding a resistor ?? Sounds very highly unlikely ..

Exo · 18th March 2006, 13:57

Well sort of, it's not as far fetched as it sounds, think about it: it's not too conceptually different from the remap concept, as it's "getting back" what was detuned for our versions.

From a bit of chemistry, and comparing with some road going engines it takes roughly 45L of air to burn enough fuel for 1bhp. Now a 1.8L 4-stroke engine will take in 5400L of air.So you'd expect 5400/45 = 120 bhp.

OTOH, the baleno stock seems to burn 60L per hp so wouldnt that like damage the engine?

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/bugatti1.htm for some basic run downs, dont worry I checked the data empirically with around 10 engines(all kinds) and it held up!

Boom Shiva · 18th March 2006, 15:19

Most of our engines have been detuned because Indian fuel is so dicey. If you're going to remap, better make sure you only fill from a petrol pump you really trust.

Having said that, has anybody got anything for Optra yet?

12th March 2006, 12:33	#16
Exo BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: dhaka Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Times	Q Very interesting! Hmm, I'm thinking you up the raze somewhat and let the mototr rev higher? naveendhyani, just out of pure curiosity did you arive at 115 from higher raze as well and reving harder? Because I'm not very good at building long lasting motors and came with that figure myself, by a few "cheap n dirty" hacks like cap/res changes to "fool" the ecu into increasing the rev's, that does work on most 4age's though(obviosly noone I know is willing to try my idea's out though lol). PS, how much for a remap?
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12th March 2006, 12:47	#17
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 18 Times	Viper, do let us know. I'd be very interested in something for the Optra.
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13th March 2006, 17:31	#18
anarchist BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago / Namma Bengaluru Posts: 372 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	Hi I am interested to know if the remap can be achieved for the Swift 1.3L and if yes what would be the costs for the same?
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13th March 2006, 17:54	#19
BUSA Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 5,130 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	viper wish you all the best and hoping to see positive reply from you soon.
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13th March 2006, 19:40	#20
barbar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 60 Thanked: 3 Times	Yeah n somethin for the NHC...
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14th March 2006, 09:14	#21
ZenGT BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 90 Thanked: 2 Times	remappin for n e petrol mpfi vehicle is available... so pm me for more details... fs
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14th March 2006, 16:28	#23
nos_nitrous BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 110 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	hey people..i saw on tv that the lancer cedia..which in other countries is tuned to turn out 135 horses has been detuned to about 110...is there anyone who retunes it bak to 135?
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14th March 2006, 16:35	#24
ksethuram BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Chennai , London (now) Posts: 233 Thanked: Once	Why not the car manufacturers have this option open for car buyers who can choose horses at their wish...may be like 1.4litres(90 or 110), 1.6(98 or 120) etc...
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16th March 2006, 16:28	#25
Exo BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: dhaka Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Times	Does anyone have info like pin-outs for these engines? I think a baleno could do 120 without too much hasle, take a look at this article: http://www.4age.net/tech/efimod.htm It's for the 4ag series but think the basic concept aplies to many other engines.
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16th March 2006, 20:45	#27
s0uljah Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 2,222 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	^^^ 120 @ Baleno, would pretty much rock your world !!
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18th March 2006, 13:57	#29
Exo BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: dhaka Posts: 30 Thanked: 0 Times	Well sort of, it's not as far fetched as it sounds, think about it: it's not too conceptually different from the remap concept, as it's "getting back" what was detuned for our versions. From a bit of chemistry, and comparing with some road going engines it takes roughly 45L of air to burn enough fuel for 1bhp. Now a 1.8L 4-stroke engine will take in 5400L of air.So you'd expect 5400/45 = 120 bhp. OTOH, the baleno stock seems to burn 60L per hp so wouldnt that like damage the engine? http://auto.howstuffworks.com/bugatti1.htm for some basic run downs, dont worry I checked the data empirically with around 10 engines(all kinds) and it held up! Last edited by Exo : 18th March 2006 at 13:58.
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18th March 2006, 15:19	#30
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 18 Times	Most of our engines have been detuned because Indian fuel is so dicey. If you're going to remap, better make sure you only fill from a petrol pump you really trust. Having said that, has anybody got anything for Optra yet?
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