Background:
I have a Skoda Rapid TDI with a RD Dieseltronic box powering it. My ownership thread is here:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ml#post2595142, and this link serves as an Index for you to navigate through my thread… Feel free to browse through it.
Intro:
I happened to swing by the RD garage/office this week to tweak my P1/P2 maps slightly, and got a chance to sit down with Karthik & Pavan and talk about what they're coming out with next. If you recall my first experience/report of the RD box in my ownership thread, they'd already hinted at the fact that they will launch a newer box within a year which will also control turbo boost (in addition to fuelling). So, I was talking to them about it and they said it’s almost ready! The box from the outside will look exactly the same. But as the title explains, one connection from the box goes into your fuel rail, and other connection goes into your turbo, while your original fuel rail & turbo connectors from your car's ECU feeds into the box. Another thing to note is that the new box will not need a seperate connection to your car's battery, as it will draw power from the power rail that the OE fuel rail connector already has itself! So, fuel control is a given, turbo boost is optional if your car can support it. More on this later...
The hardware inside the box is a little different from the original Dieseltronic box, as it has to now process/compute more, and now has to control both fuelling and turbo boost. The software that powers the box has been rewritten from scratch, and is even more intelligent. This time, since there are 2 parameters to play with, they're going to ensure that the fuelling maps and the turbo boost maps feed data into each other, and decisions are made on the fly with the help of their existing Adaptive Self Learning algorithms.
Going into a little bit of detail:
The easiest call for them would have been to keep the fuel maps the same as the old box, and just control boost separately, so this way they won't have to re-write/re-invent too much. But instead of taking this easy way out, they're going to ensure that fuelling and turbo boost settings are controlled in a way that they complement each other, and co-exist together. Depending on engine rpm, engine load and what your car's original ECU demands from the fuel rail and the turbo, the new box will analyze all this and make decisions on what should go to the fuel rail and turbo instead. This means, if you’re light on the throttle, the fuelling and boost will compliment that; if you push the pedal to the metal, the box will react accordingly & proportionately as well…
Marketing:
They're still deciding if this box will be called something new, or if it will carry on with the Dieseltronic family name. This one's obviously more expensive to produce, and they've invested a lot of work into re-architecting their software, so they're still not sure how much more they should price it at. They might even consider discontinuing the old box when this new one is ready for mass production, and this might just become the new Dieseltronic box -2 channel this time, but at the same price so they can be aggressive about pushing this to a larger audience. Only time will tell, I’m just speculating from what little info they’re willing to give me at this juncture about pricing.
The good news:
They're already testing it in a few cars, and this box will maximum benefit all vehicles that have an electronically controlled turbo (i.e. your ECU should be controlling the turbo). All Variable Geometry Turbo equipped cars have electronically controlled turbochargers, so they will all benefit. Some of the Fixed Geometry Turbo equipped cars can benefit from the box too as they're electronically controlled, but some of the other FGT equipped cars don't have an electronically driven turbo, so such cars will not benefit from the turbo boost (they won't even connect it), but will still benefit from the fuel maps. And to top it all off, you'll still have your Economy, Stock, P1 and P2 modes working with the new box as well through the remote, except this time, P1 will have a setting for both fuel + turbo (and will likely to be as powerful as a fuel only P2 from the existing Dieseltronic box), while the new P2 with aggressive fuelling and turbo boost control will take the gains from a simple tuning box to another level!
Net gain:
From what they explained, any ECU remap comprises on re-calibrating fuel delivery, turbo boost and injector timings. With this new tuning box, they're controlling fuel delivery and turbo boost, while retaining your stock injector timings. Meaning, you're going to get very close to the absolute power gains of a remap. In some cars, they believe they can achieve what a remap can, in others, as close to 90~95%. This is while retaining the benefits of this being an external plug'n'play solution, that you can remove yourself (just 2 connectors) before dropping your car off for service; they will never know you had connected a tuning box and so you get to keep your warranty. Contrast this to a remap which can be detected by your car's service station if they plug in and do a diagnostic on your ECU, and your warranty is immediately void. For my car, they estimate I can go upto 125~130 BHP with the new box (right now, my P2 is @ 116 BHP)
So, if you're looking to pick up a RD Dieseltronic box for your diesel car, I'd suggest you wait for a little while longer as a newer box is on the way ;-), though I don’t know exactly how soon they will launch. This is as much as I could gather, hope this helps!