[DerAlte]

Originally Posted by Sutripta

My question was whether they (the Chinese) got the protocol (initially at least) officially, or did they reverse engineer it.
And why could no Indian company/ person get it, either officially or reverse engineered. ...

No need to reverse engineer or 'get' from anywhere officially or unofficially. Those are quite standard ISO protocols, albeit the older ones ('90s vintage; based on K-Line) that the ELM327-cloners don't bother to put in.

What Indian company are you referring to, and why?

[T1000]

Hi HK,
I checked the rates for autosnap, the quote i got is 220$ + shipping(30$-40$) from a chinese webite.
can you send me the reference from where you bought the gadget?

Meanwhile, i came across another scanner
http://www.tomtop.com/car-memo-code-...ippingCostCalc

Can anyone confirm if it will work for maruti cars?
Specfications says it works on CAN protocol.
It looks like this device shows only the diagnostic code and not the definitions.

Is it a good buy?

[Sutripta]

Originally Posted by DerAlte

What Indian company are you referring to, and why?

Tuners/ remappers/ flashers/ ELM/ clone importers (individual or their companies)

Regards
Sutripta

[DerAlte]

Originally Posted by Sutripta

... (individual or their companies) ...

Those whose earnings depend on it, would already have it, wouldn't they? If it doesn't, would they care? Also, I am not sure any Indian company is into creating and selling diagnostics equipment, even interface modules like ELM, nor into creating (original) ROMs. The market is just too small.

[Sutripta]

Originally Posted by DerAlte

Those whose earnings depend on it, would already have it, wouldn't they?

Wouldnt be too sure of it. Don't mean the MASS's.

The market is just too small.

Tuners do survive, i think.

Is the protocol information posted in any of the OBD threads. If not, could you post it there please.

Regards
Sutripta

[DerAlte]

Sure, Tuners do survive in India, but not by Tuning. They always have a workshop where normal car maintenance/repair gives them their daily bread. This is *totally* unlike USA, Europe or Japan where Tuning is a DIY enthusiasts' world, and it is first on their own rides. Do you find that in India? That I seriously doubt. In India, IF they have their own ride, they will first fit a jhin-chak spoiler and FFE to market themselves.

I think we are seriously OT on this thread - let us c & d.

[HimuraKenshin]

Hey guys, really for the late reply.
I arrived in London last night. Doing my masters from here.
yes, the scanner does indeed work on all mahindra cars.. sorry i dont hvae a picture yet, will try to get a shot of the screen.

[im_srini]

Originally Posted by Sutripta

Do keep us posted.

The Auto-Snap IN-805 works with my 2001 Alto Vx ! Whoopee
This scanner allows you to:
A) Check DTCs
B) Erase DTCs
C) Check components
D) Stream data
E) Get ECU info

In my old Alto, the following parameters are available as part of the data stream:
01) Coolant temperature (deg C)
02) Intake air temperature (deg C)
03) Desired idle (RPM)
04) Closed throttle position (ON / OFF)
05) Engine speed (RPM)
06) IAC flow duty (%)
07) Calculated load (%)
08) Total fuel trim B1 (%)
09) Short fuel trim B1 (%)
10) Long fuel trim B1 (%)
11) Spark advance (deg)
12) Injector pulse width B1 (milliseconds)
13) Battery voltage (Volts)
14) Throttle position (%)
15) TP sensor voltage (Volts)
16) O2S B1 S1 voltage (Volts)
17) Radiator fan (ON / OFF)
18) A/C cooling fan (ON / OFF)
19) Fuel system B1 (OPEN / CLOSED)
20) Evap canister (ON / OFF)
21) MAP (Kpa)
22) Barometric pressure (Kpa)
23) Blower fan (ON / OFF)
24) A/C mag clutch (ON / OFF)
25) A/C switch (ON / OFF)
26) Fuel pump (ON / OFF)
27) Fuel cut-off (ON / OFF)
28) Electric load (ON / OFF)
29) Stop light switch (ON / OFF)
30) Vehicle speed sensor (mph)
31) Canister purge duty (%)
32) Step EGR flow duty (%)

Tested it on a colleague's 2006 Swift Vxi also - the IN-805 is able to recognize the different systems like ABS, EPS, PCM (engine), BCM, etc. & stream data. The scanner needs no batteries, it draws its power from the OBD2 port (which funnily enough is powered even when the ignition is off). Occassionally, the Auto-Snap scanner will throw a "ECU communication error", & sometimes it just freezes - in such situations, the only way out is to disconnect the scanner from the OBD2 port. I'm yet to find a way to log the data stream.

Originally Posted by 1self

I e-mailed Auto-snap & got a quote of 290$ ex Shenzhen for the IN815.

While the scanner is great, I have some misgivings about the seller on Ali-Express. I'd initially emailed them asking for differences between the IN-805 & IN-815, they replied that they do not sell the IN-805 anymore since most of their customers complained that the IN-805 was "not as good" as the IN-815. On their online shop, the URL for the product mentioned IN-815 - which is what I'd ordered (~ $243 US). However, when the product was delivered, it was marked IN-805 ! On emailing them, they replied that the item name was incorrect & that there was no product called IN-815 !?!

In any case, I'm thrilled since I've finally got a scanner that works ! The equivalent from Maruti (called the Tech-2 or Suzuki-Diagnostic-Kit) costs around Rs. 4 lakhs ! Yet to check it on my K10 & M800, but I'm guessing it'll work just fine...

[swarnava.m]

Originally Posted by im_srini

The Auto-Snap IN-805 works with my 2001 Alto Vx ! Whoopee
This scanner allows you to:
A) Check DTCs
B) Erase DTCs
C) Check components
D) Stream data
E) Get ECU info...

Thanks!! That sounds like real good news..
What I would like to know about is point D. Stream data.. to what? Is it possible to connect this to a laptop and have the data being constantly updated? What I am talking about is something like the Kiwi OBD tool that you can see in the following post:
LINK

[im_srini]

Originally Posted by swarnava.m

What I would like to know about is point D. Stream data.. to what ?

As far as the IN-805 scanner is concerned, "Data Stream" is just a fancy way of displaying live data. The values for the parameters (listed in the previous post) are shown on the scanner's display (around 5 parameters at a time).

Originally Posted by swarnava.m

Is it possible to connect this to a laptop and have the data being constantly updated ?

No, this unit does not provide any data logging or transfer capabilities. It does come with a CD & USB cable, but those are for updating the software in the scanner.

[Sutripta]

Originally Posted by im_srini

The Auto-Snap IN-805 works with my 2001 Alto Vx ! Whoopee

Thanks.
Take it that it will work on the older Marutis. What about the newer ones?

Regards
Sutripta

[im_srini]

Originally Posted by im_srini

The Auto-Snap IN-805 works with my 2001 Alto Vx ! Whoopee

Originally Posted by Sutripta

Take it that it will work on the older Marutis. What about the newer ones ?

Hi Sutripta, not sure if the Alto-K10 can be considered as one of the newer cars
This scanner works with my 2-year old K10 - here's the list of parameters for the K10B engine:

00. Fuel System B1
01. Short Fuel Trim B1 (%)
02. Long Fuel Trim B1 (%)
03. Total Fuel Trim B1 (%)
04. Injector Pulse Width B1 (msecs)
05. Ignition Advance (deg)
06. Calculated Load (%)
07. Engine Speed (RPM)
08. Desired Idle (RPM)
09. MAF (g/sec)
10. Vehicle Speed (Kmph)
11. Coolant Temperature (deg C)
12. Intake Air Temperature (deg C)
13. Barometric Pressure (KPa)
14. Canister Purge Duty (%)
15. VVT Gap (deg)
16. IAC Throttle Opening (%)
17. TP Sensor 1 Voltage (V)
18. TP Sensor 2 Voltage (V)
19. APP Sensor 1 Volt (V)
20. APP Sensor 2 Volt (V)
21. Accelerator Position (%)
22. Throttle Position (%)
23. Target Throttle Position (%)
24. Throttle Motor (V)
25. O2S B1 S1 (V)
26. O2S B1 S2 (V)
27. Battery Voltage (V)
28. A/C Pressure (KPa)
29. Radiator Fan (ON/OFF)
30. A/C Condenser Fan (ON/OFF)
31. A/C Compressor Relay (ON/OFF)
32. Fuel Pump Mon (ON/OFF)
33. Throttle Motor Relay Mon (ON/OFF)
34. Starter Switch (ON/OFF)
35. TST Switch (ON/OFF)
36. A/C Switch (ON/OFF)
37. Blower Fan (ON/OFF)
38. Brake Switch (ON/OFF)
39. Electrical Load (ON/OFF)
40. Fuel Cut
41. Closed Throttle Position (ON/OFF)
42. O2S B1 S1 Active
43. O2S B1 S2 Active
44. Transmission Actual Gear
45. PNP Signal
46. Evap Vent Valve (ON/OFF)

[Sutripta]

Originally Posted by im_srini

Hi Sutripta, not sure if the Alto-K10 can be considered as one of the newer cars

Thanks.
The Alto K10 is my newest Maruti. And have a few of the older ones. So time to get one of these.

Regards
Sutripta

[rahulgoel]

the scanning tool seems to be really great for professionals as well as for individuals. Can somebody share about its warranty in India, ie where to go for its RMA. Also want to know the distributor/dealers in New Delhi where one can buy IN805.

[a4anurag]

Originally Posted by im_srini

Hi Sutripta, not sure if the Alto-K10 can be considered as one of the newer cars

Hi Srini,

Does this work for the Ritz (2010 model and later ones) and the New Swift DDiS?

Anurag.