Double air-con for the Innova? EDIT : Pics uploaded

GTO · 28th April 2006, 10:45

On my recommendation, my brother has picked up an Innova Diesel. Though he is very happy with the car overall, the single din air-con is not sufficient during fully loaded highway trips. He didnt book the factory option of double air-con since the price differential between the versions was a bit too much.

Are there any after-market reliable options to fit the rear air-con in the Innova? Or do dealerships carry out the same? Can any Innova owners share their experience?

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks

GTO

cooldude1988765 · 28th April 2006, 10:49

My friend's Innova also has single air con. When I enquired with the dealership of installing a split air con they said that the higher Innovas*(with split ac) have 2 compressors and it is difficult to retro fit the second compressor.

The qualis on the other hand had only one compressor and the split ac could be easily fitted as an aftermarket accessory.....

tsk1979 · 28th April 2006, 11:40

Dont do this on the innova. Retrofitting a new compressor will not be done by any authorized dealership. You can get it done outside, and its possible that the person does a great job but you lose warranty. Its better to invest in heat blocking sunfilm(will cost around 12000rs) on all windows, not just the front one.
If you go for retrofitting just another blower, it wont help much and again your warranty may be void.

Iknowthisguy · 28th April 2006, 12:02

We have Innova diesal (G2) which comes with standard single blower AC, but seeing the Delhi heat we asked our dealer to install an extra AC blower (which was offered as Toyota "recommended" accessory).

We were told that its an extra cooing coil on the same compressor, coz we also didn't want to have an extra compressor etc installed on our new engine.

That costed us 28K ...dealer price but you know how much dealer overcharges. This became clear when we went to our known accesory shop for regular accesory fittings (stereo,seat covers,films & side strip) & was shocked to know that same thing is available for 16K.

But the best part is when you get the same fitted from the dealer...he gives you warranty for 2 years & peace of mind

I am happy with my decision as I can trust Toyota more than my local accesory shop

cheers

GTO · 28th April 2006, 13:10

Spot on, Iknowthisguy! Thats exactly what I was looking for.

Did the authorised dealership have a ready price list for this? How much has the cooling and effectiveness improved?

Surprisingly, the Bombay dealership that he took delivery from is not willing to add the blower / coil.

GTO

Iknowthisguy · 28th April 2006, 13:56

Yeah...dealer had the price list for the same. It was for 30K but somehow we managed to squeeze 2K discount on the price list.

There is no issue regarding cooling & effectiveness...recently we went to Simla over the long weekend & i bet there was uniform cooling throughout as nobody complained about cooling even from the last row. In city too its a boon as u can imagine Delhi heat at this point of time.

One more point...as the same was done by the dealer, they fitted exactly interior matching blower & without any fit & finish issues, you cant expect the same from the accessory shop

If this helps...
Dealer - Galaxy Toyota
Purchase Month - Jan'06

Cheers

GTO · 28th April 2006, 15:24

Thanks a ton. Any inputs from Bombay members?

GTO

Mpower · 28th April 2006, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude1988765

My friend's Innova also has single air con. When I enquired with the dealership of installing a split air con they said that the higher Innovas*(with split ac) have 2 compressors and it is difficult to retro fit the second compressor.....

Are you sure of this. Usually its only 1 compressor (could be a bigger one)and they install a second evaporator coil in the back seat.

sharad_agl · 28th April 2006, 21:05

I own a G3 and a G2 innova and for your information both have only one a/c compressor. The compressor on G3 is slightly bigger and has a second set of evaporator coil and blower near the last passenger seat. G2 has only dash mounted blower and evaporator. I had installed( from toyota dealer) the rear blower in G2 because of inadequate cooling at rear. The cooling in G2 is much more powerful and uniform compared to G3 because of very large air flow from the rear blower. I would personally recommend to go for rear blower instead of company fitted rear a/c system.

cooldude1988765 · 28th April 2006, 21:19

I have never seen the second compressor myself the salesman told me about it....

So how much did the rear ac cost you sharad

Mpower · 28th April 2006, 23:25

Thanks for confirming sharad. I myself was surprised.

A good look at the service manual should tell you what parts you need. May also need to change out some of the trim panels to fit the back seat blower controls.

GTO · 29th April 2006, 09:33

Thanks a ton for the help, guys. We are getting the double air-con fitted in the next week.

GTO

sharad_agl · 30th April 2006, 13:57

The rear blower was installed for 26K from Uttam Toyota, ghaziabad. Working fine till 20K kms. I suggest to get it fitted from dealer because you get 3 yrs warranty on a/c system. The warranty is void if u get it installed from any acc. shop.

jesal · 30th April 2006, 23:50

i have a qualis second model gsg8 model. i wanted to know if the ac in the back is a blower or a air con unit itself. this friend of mine fitted the blower thing in all his innovas. dont think its healthy to install another ac unit all togher is it now ?

GTO · 29th June 2009, 13:26

Some Innova owners PM'ed me asking for pictures of the install. Here goes:

1. Time to install : 1 - 2 days in Toyota after-sales (Shinrai @ Worli).

2. Cost : Rs. 30,000.

3. Effectiveness : Super! Rarely go above blower position "1".

28th April 2006, 10:45	#1
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,493 Thanked: 300,295 Times View My Garage	Double air-con for the Innova? EDIT : Pics uploaded On my recommendation, my brother has picked up an Innova Diesel. Though he is very happy with the car overall, the single din air-con is not sufficient during fully loaded highway trips. He didnt book the factory option of double air-con since the price differential between the versions was a bit too much. Are there any after-market reliable options to fit the rear air-con in the Innova? Or do dealerships carry out the same? Can any Innova owners share their experience? Any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks GTO
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28th April 2006, 10:49	#2
cooldude1988765 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,041 Thanked: 187 Times	My friend's Innova also has single air con. When I enquired with the dealership of installing a split air con they said that the higher Innovas*(with split ac) have 2 compressors and it is difficult to retro fit the second compressor. The qualis on the other hand had only one compressor and the split ac could be easily fitted as an aftermarket accessory.....
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28th April 2006, 11:40	#3
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,820 Times View My Garage	Dont do this on the innova. Retrofitting a new compressor will not be done by any authorized dealership. You can get it done outside, and its possible that the person does a great job but you lose warranty. Its better to invest in heat blocking sunfilm(will cost around 12000rs) on all windows, not just the front one. If you go for retrofitting just another blower, it wont help much and again your warranty may be void.
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28th April 2006, 12:02	#4
Iknowthisguy BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 63 Thanked: Once	We have Innova diesal (G2) which comes with standard single blower AC, but seeing the Delhi heat we asked our dealer to install an extra AC blower (which was offered as Toyota "recommended" accessory). We were told that its an extra cooing coil on the same compressor, coz we also didn't want to have an extra compressor etc installed on our new engine. That costed us 28K ...dealer price but you know how much dealer overcharges. This became clear when we went to our known accesory shop for regular accesory fittings (stereo,seat covers,films & side strip) & was shocked to know that same thing is available for 16K. But the best part is when you get the same fitted from the dealer...he gives you warranty for 2 years & peace of mind I am happy with my decision as I can trust Toyota more than my local accesory shop cheers
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28th April 2006, 13:10	#5
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,493 Thanked: 300,295 Times View My Garage	Spot on, Iknowthisguy! Thats exactly what I was looking for. Did the authorised dealership have a ready price list for this? How much has the cooling and effectiveness improved? Surprisingly, the Bombay dealership that he took delivery from is not willing to add the blower / coil. GTO
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28th April 2006, 13:56	#6
Iknowthisguy BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 63 Thanked: Once	Yeah...dealer had the price list for the same. It was for 30K but somehow we managed to squeeze 2K discount on the price list. There is no issue regarding cooling & effectiveness...recently we went to Simla over the long weekend & i bet there was uniform cooling throughout as nobody complained about cooling even from the last row. In city too its a boon as u can imagine Delhi heat at this point of time. One more point...as the same was done by the dealer, they fitted exactly interior matching blower & without any fit & finish issues, you cant expect the same from the accessory shop If this helps... Dealer - Galaxy Toyota Purchase Month - Jan'06 Cheers
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28th April 2006, 15:24	#7
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,493 Thanked: 300,295 Times View My Garage	Thanks a ton. Any inputs from Bombay members? GTO
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28th April 2006, 21:05	#9
sharad_agl BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: GHAZIABAD Posts: 42 Thanked: 14 Times	Twin compressor? I own a G3 and a G2 innova and for your information both have only one a/c compressor. The compressor on G3 is slightly bigger and has a second set of evaporator coil and blower near the last passenger seat. G2 has only dash mounted blower and evaporator. I had installed( from toyota dealer) the rear blower in G2 because of inadequate cooling at rear. The cooling in G2 is much more powerful and uniform compared to G3 because of very large air flow from the rear blower. I would personally recommend to go for rear blower instead of company fitted rear a/c system.
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28th April 2006, 21:19	#10
cooldude1988765 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,041 Thanked: 187 Times	I have never seen the second compressor myself the salesman told me about it.... So how much did the rear ac cost you sharad
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28th April 2006, 23:25	#11
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,729 Times View My Garage	Thanks for confirming sharad. I myself was surprised. A good look at the service manual should tell you what parts you need. May also need to change out some of the trim panels to fit the back seat blower controls. Last edited by Mpower : 28th April 2006 at 23:26.
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29th April 2006, 09:33	#12
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,493 Thanked: 300,295 Times View My Garage	Thanks a ton for the help, guys. We are getting the double air-con fitted in the next week. GTO
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30th April 2006, 13:57	#13
sharad_agl BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: GHAZIABAD Posts: 42 Thanked: 14 Times	The rear blower was installed for 26K from Uttam Toyota, ghaziabad. Working fine till 20K kms. I suggest to get it fitted from dealer because you get 3 yrs warranty on a/c system. The warranty is void if u get it installed from any acc. shop.
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30th April 2006, 23:50	#14
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	i have a qualis second model gsg8 model. i wanted to know if the ac in the back is a blower or a air con unit itself. this friend of mine fitted the blower thing in all his innovas. dont think its healthy to install another ac unit all togher is it now ?
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29th June 2009, 13:26	#15
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,493 Thanked: 300,295 Times View My Garage	Some Innova owners PM'ed me asking for pictures of the install. Here goes: 1. Time to install : 1 - 2 days in Toyota after-sales (Shinrai @ Worli). 2. Cost : Rs. 30,000. 3. Effectiveness : Super! Rarely go above blower position "1".
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