Stock Airfilter problem query

venkatrx · 3rd May 2006, 20:30

Hi Guys,

I read that 'airfilter' is a big factor in FE. Can some one tell me how frequently should the 'airfilter' be cleaned?

where is the airfilter located in baleno?

can we clean it ourselves or should we take it to the service center?

did dirty airfilter give u problems before?

speedsatya · 4th May 2006, 11:44

yes air filter plays a major role in FE and performance figures ....the air intake sucks air which gets filtered through the air-filter before going into the engine ...with time the air filter gets clogged with dust and foreign particles ...so its always advisable to get the filter cleaned ...

No,you dont have to go to the service station only for getting the filter cleaned ....its better if you have access to compressed air to clean the filter ...you can do this once a month when filling air or when getting teh car washed ...you can use a vacuum cleaner to blow away the dust ..or simply remove the filter and hit it against a wall so that the dust falls off.

zulfikar · 4th May 2006, 12:00

its always better to replace the Airfilter...
i never cleaned it...
i replace it evert 4000KM...

tsk1979 · 4th May 2006, 12:00

Go to a local tyrewalla. Remove the air filter and blast air at it for around 2-3 min. this will be better cleaning that the stupid beat against the wall cleaning many service center guys do.

After the cleaning look at the air filter box. Remove all debri from there using a damp cloth. You will find leaves and even small stones there. After the compartment dries, put in the air filter and enjoy the difference. Usually you need to clean the filter every 5000kms for Delhi type dusty conditions.

tsk1979 · 4th May 2006, 12:02

That is actually wasteful. Dust does not damage the air filter. Non paper filter like K&N are washable. Filter replacement should be done around 10000+kms.

speedsatya · 4th May 2006, 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsk1979

That is actually wasteful. Dust does not damage the air filter. Non paper filter like K&N are washable. Filter replacement should be done around 10000+kms.

yeah the beat the wall is not that effective as compressed air ....abt k&n filters they are washable ,but its not with water ...but you get k&n cleaning oil with which they are cleaned ...and they claim that the filter lasts for about 25-30 washes..

venkatrx · 4th May 2006, 13:11

Most of you are talking about cleaning/changing airfilter for every 4000 kms or more.....so mine being just 1500 kms old (that too serviced at 1000 kms) i need not worry about cleaning right.

Where is the airfilter located in baleno

PS : btw i drive on tarred roads, very rarely on muddy roads....i assume that this is normal driving condition and 'airfilter' couldn't have been a big factor in my low FE.

5u3zEr0 · 4th May 2006, 13:48

I have never cleaned an air filter by myself. Every time the car is serviced every 5000kms or 7500kms the service centre guys take care of it.

Difference in FE due to a dirty air filter will be minimal.

tsk1979 · 4th May 2006, 14:21

Actualy its not the roads per se. Bangalore is lucky not to be so dusty. Delhi gets these summer dust storms which lead to lot of dust in the air. They clog your lungs and your cars air filter too. So in such conditions I would be wary of using a filter which cant block a lot of fine dust.
As for location of air filter, its pretty visible. Will be located near the top of your engine bay. Look around, you will find it, I think baleno owners can be of help here

2fast4u · 4th May 2006, 16:28

i dont think filters cost much and its better to be replaced at each service.

greenhorn · 8th March 2009, 08:36

I opened up my airbox to clean the air filter and saw this

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It was not there before i gave it for servicing.there seems to be a small loss of sealing due to the torn edge, and it comes right under the area where the tube which leads to the engine is connected. Is this cause for concern?

Either way its 20k, I went out and bought a new air filter, but would it have caused problems if I'd not known and left it like that

Raccoon · 8th March 2009, 16:27

Its definitely a cause for concern if there is loss of the air tight seal anywhere. Air will simply go thru that opening as it will offer the least resistance!

gpa · 9th March 2009, 10:20

That orange filter looks like the one of a Santro Xing. I had the same problem once, no idea how the filter got torn like that. But I replaced it even though it was new.

Cheers,
gpa

Jaggu · 9th March 2009, 11:12

@greenhorn: From the looks of it air filter condition warrants replacement. Its too dirty to clean so a good choice.

If there is a open area from the cut (even when the cover is closed) then it could have caused issues, also a good idea to do a TB clean up.

greenhorn · 9th March 2009, 11:39

Thanks jaggu. I opened up the airbox a day or two after the service ( it was ok the last time i opened it , at about 18,000k. so i dont think much dirt would have gotten in, assuming the damage happened during the service. By TB do you mean throttle body? Mine is a Turbodiesel indica . the inside of the airbox on the engine side looked clean, with no dust

3rd May 2006, 20:30	#1
venkatrx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 453 Thanked: 4 Times	Stock Airfilter problem query Hi Guys, I read that 'airfilter' is a big factor in FE. Can some one tell me how frequently should the 'airfilter' be cleaned? where is the airfilter located in baleno? can we clean it ourselves or should we take it to the service center? did dirty airfilter give u problems before?
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4th May 2006, 11:44	#2
speedsatya Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore/manga Posts: 3,169 Thanked: 738 Times View My Garage	yes air filter plays a major role in FE and performance figures ....the air intake sucks air which gets filtered through the air-filter before going into the engine ...with time the air filter gets clogged with dust and foreign particles ...so its always advisable to get the filter cleaned ... No,you dont have to go to the service station only for getting the filter cleaned ....its better if you have access to compressed air to clean the filter ...you can do this once a month when filling air or when getting teh car washed ...you can use a vacuum cleaner to blow away the dust ..or simply remove the filter and hit it against a wall so that the dust falls off.
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4th May 2006, 12:00	#3
zulfikar BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 532 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	its always better to replace the Airfilter... i never cleaned it... i replace it evert 4000KM...
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4th May 2006, 12:00	#4
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,823 Times View My Garage	Go to a local tyrewalla. Remove the air filter and blast air at it for around 2-3 min. this will be better cleaning that the stupid beat against the wall cleaning many service center guys do. After the cleaning look at the air filter box. Remove all debri from there using a damp cloth. You will find leaves and even small stones there. After the compartment dries, put in the air filter and enjoy the difference. Usually you need to clean the filter every 5000kms for Delhi type dusty conditions.
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4th May 2006, 12:02	#5
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,823 Times View My Garage	That is actually wasteful. Dust does not damage the air filter. Non paper filter like K&N are washable. Filter replacement should be done around 10000+kms.
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4th May 2006, 13:11	#7
venkatrx BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 453 Thanked: 4 Times	Most of you are talking about cleaning/changing airfilter for every 4000 kms or more.....so mine being just 1500 kms old (that too serviced at 1000 kms) i need not worry about cleaning right. Where is the airfilter located in baleno PS : btw i drive on tarred roads, very rarely on muddy roads....i assume that this is normal driving condition and 'airfilter' couldn't have been a big factor in my low FE.
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4th May 2006, 13:48	#8
5u3zEr0 BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Madras Posts: 379 Thanked: 3 Times	I have never cleaned an air filter by myself. Every time the car is serviced every 5000kms or 7500kms the service centre guys take care of it. Difference in FE due to a dirty air filter will be minimal.
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4th May 2006, 14:21	#9
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,823 Times View My Garage	Actualy its not the roads per se. Bangalore is lucky not to be so dusty. Delhi gets these summer dust storms which lead to lot of dust in the air. They clog your lungs and your cars air filter too. So in such conditions I would be wary of using a filter which cant block a lot of fine dust. As for location of air filter, its pretty visible. Will be located near the top of your engine bay. Look around, you will find it, I think baleno owners can be of help here
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4th May 2006, 16:28	#10
2fast4u BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: pune / Bahrain Posts: 488 Thanked: 7 Times View My Garage	i dont think filters cost much and its better to be replaced at each service.
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8th March 2009, 08:36	#11
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,744 Thanked: 4,387 Times View My Garage	I opened up my airbox to clean the air filter and saw this It was not there before i gave it for servicing.there seems to be a small loss of sealing due to the torn edge, and it comes right under the area where the tube which leads to the engine is connected. Is this cause for concern? Either way its 20k, I went out and bought a new air filter, but would it have caused problems if I'd not known and left it like that
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8th March 2009, 16:27	#12
Raccoon Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Poona Posts: 1,851 Thanked: 116 Times	Its definitely a cause for concern if there is loss of the air tight seal anywhere. Air will simply go thru that opening as it will offer the least resistance!
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9th March 2009, 10:20	#13
gpa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,789 Thanked: 340 Times	That orange filter looks like the one of a Santro Xing. I had the same problem once, no idea how the filter got torn like that. But I replaced it even though it was new. Cheers, gpa
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9th March 2009, 11:12	#14
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,212 Thanked: 15,892 Times	@greenhorn: From the looks of it air filter condition warrants replacement. Its too dirty to clean so a good choice. If there is a open area from the cut (even when the cover is closed) then it could have caused issues, also a good idea to do a TB clean up.
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9th March 2009, 11:39	#15
greenhorn Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: KL-01 Posts: 7,744 Thanked: 4,387 Times View My Garage	Thanks jaggu. I opened up the airbox a day or two after the service ( it was ok the last time i opened it , at about 18,000k. so i dont think much dirt would have gotten in, assuming the damage happened during the service. By TB do you mean throttle body? Mine is a Turbodiesel indica . the inside of the airbox on the engine side looked clean, with no dust
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