Thanks all for your concern and replies. I am still waiting to get a specific update; as of now I only know that the repair estimate is "horrific".
Apparently there was some sort of City recall in 2009? Our car was not recalled but parents are wondering if that is linked to this in any manner.
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Originally Posted by saket77 Did the car show any symptoms before dying like loss of power, etc?
Please update the thread with the diagnosis by the Honda ASC. Will be watching it eagerly as to know what might have gone wrong.
Regards,
Saket |
No symptoms whatsoever.
Yes I hope this thread can be of use to others unfortunate enough to have a similar experience in future.
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Originally Posted by audioholic 22k kms is too early for an engine to show problems unless as Saket told there is an oil starvation or overheating. Could it be due to the fuel pump either conking off or not turning on? I think engine should not be opened unless other aspects are ruled out.
Even if there was water in the fuel, it would shown up sometime after filling the car since water settles down in the bottom in a short while after filling and then immediately gets pumped into the engine. |
I figured an ECU problem can occur anytime but yes agree it's early for a significant mechanical issue to be arising.
It was a day trip to Bangalore and back... fuel was filled in the morning, driving all day, and this happened at night.
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Originally Posted by arjab What can be - and again, this is pure speculation, is a freak, but catastrophic failure/snapping of the timing belt. It once happened to a friend of mine in his BALENO , in the dead of night, in the backwoods of Orissa, and the symptoms are close to what you describe.
Another can be, again speculative and a very long shot, that while trying to shift down from 5th, if shifting was being done at that instance, somehow, again by freak, there could have been a potential mis-shift, and the shifter moved into the reverse corridor, slightly. Even a mild ingress of the selector/shifter into the reverse corridor can result in a potential failure of the gearbox which would automatically cause the ECU to instruct the engine to shutdown |
Timing belt snapping does make sense but would have been immediately spotted before engine being opened (I assume). Of course this presumes honesty on the part of the workshop.
In the second case, would the engine prevent itself from restarting again when cranked?
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Originally Posted by Jeroen I have said it several dozens of times on this forum already and I will keep repeating it: Problems with a modern car, get it hooked up to a proper manufacturer specific OBD analyzer. Anything else is pure speculation. If your Honda dealer doesn't do so, tell them to do it, or go to a different dealer that will.
Unless, they come with a very plausible cause that is clearly visible. And even then, it might be a good idea to hook it up just to see if there are any other problems.
If the engine had seized, believe me, you would have noticed, because the wheels get blocked and only stomping on the clutch would prevent that. |
Thanks Jeroen, I too assumed diagnostics would be a simple matter of hooking up an analyzer. It's only when I heard the engine was being opened that I began to wonder what was going on.
I've never experienced an engine seizure but would assume that all components of the drivetrain would jam, like you've said. That didn't happen to us.
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Originally Posted by Arch-Angel If the oil levels are normal, the chance for a seizing are low. Hydrolock could be a factor but i don't feel it could be it. As Jeroen stated, if the engine seized, you'll feel the car rapidly decelerating along with symptoms resembling a wheel lock under full load braking. |
That didn't happen because I was nodding off in the back seat and it took me a few seconds to realize that something was amiss. In that time the car was rolling forward normally.
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Originally Posted by sgiitk I will suspect the ECU, but that is pure speculation. |
My initial guess too.
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Originally Posted by NetfreakBombay Did he have to de-clutch / shift to neutral OR was car rolling in-gear as well (given that car was on a downslope)? |
Interesting question. Pretty sure it was rolling in gear, but will ask dad.
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Originally Posted by a4anurag Any update on the issue?
Get to hooked to an OBD reader to get the real matter out, we sitting here can only speculate and shoot up your tension further.
Anurag. |
Hope to get a detailed update in the next day or two.
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Originally Posted by ajmat
If your oil level was low, you would have got a warning and the car wold have overheated |
Off-topic: Haha as part of my job I reply to legal notices received by a large car manufacturer and I've seen at least two notices where complainants have alleged that the oil level warning light did not glow prior to an engine seizure. We replied saying that since the light was subsequently tested and found to be working, it must have glowed and not been noticed by you.
Thanks again everyone.