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Old 17th February 2014, 15:44   #1
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Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

Came across this new technology that is now launched in India!

Seems like a promising product!!(its from Japan afterall!!)

Further read - http://stay-kool.net/index.html

Article - http://www.zigwheels.com/news-featur...n-india/17838/
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Old 17th February 2014, 16:14   #2
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re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

This is nice alternative for the banned sun-control films.
But more importantly, what would be the price?
How does the cost of Rs.8000 per sq.m transforms to per car price?

Assuming windshield is 1.5m in length and say 0.5m of height; this comes to 0.75 sq.m which requires Rs.6000 for front wind-shield alone? Almost same cost for back side.
Including sides, we have approx Rs.20000 ~ Rs.22000 per car (hatch size)??
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Old 17th February 2014, 16:20   #3
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re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

Might be an alternative but this would still be illegal. As per the SC ruling, any kind modification to the glasses is illegal.
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re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

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As per the SC ruling, any kind modification to the glasses is illegal.
If the visible light transmission is 87% (their claim) then there should not be objection. What other modification they're talking about?
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Old 17th February 2014, 16:30   #5
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97% visibility but 70% heat rejection?
Seems too good to be true.
But if indeed it's true, ~20,000 rupees seems justified.
There's no way cops will stop you for it.

But this still wouldn't make the car *look* cool, one of the main styling points of sun films.
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Old 17th February 2014, 16:52   #6
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If the visible light transmission is 87% (their claim) then there should not be objection. What other modification they're talking about?
Even for the specified VLT, that has to happen from the manufacturer itself and should not be modified by the owner. This is what was pronounced by the SC. :(
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re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

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Even for the specified VLT, that has to happen from the manufacturer itself and should not be modified by the owner. This is what was pronounced by the SC. :(
Yes, it would be illegal but how will the cops find out. Scratch and find ?

The following from their website looks like they are taking on the SC directive

Problem
Excessive direct solar radiation from windshield and side windows heating up both driver and passenger side seats. Tinting windshield is illegal across the world, and even tinted solar films on side windows are illegal in countries like India, US and Europe and parts of Asia.

Solution
Patented STAY-KOOL micro-coating was applied to the windshield.
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re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

The biggest problem is if the cops have a doubt they will tell you to open the door and pass their fingers over the glass. If they find anything stuck on they will levy a fine on the spot and tell you to get rid of it. Also this is not something new - most manufacturers used to have this earlier also I guess. But the issue remains the same - Nothing on the Glass unless its done by the manufacturer themselves.
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Old 17th February 2014, 18:38   #9
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With the SC ban on sunfilm, there is a definite increase in skin and other cancers caused by exposure to UV rays. Does this coating do anything about harmful radiation? I think that is more important than stay-kool, which can be managed by increasing the A/C.
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re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

Oh this sounds great, I'm definitely going to give this a try on my next car.

Cops shouldn't be able to figure out this is there, I doubt it will be as thick a coating as film on glass so even running a finger over the edge shouldn't give it away.
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re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

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With the SC ban on sunfilm, there is a definite increase in skin and other cancers caused by exposure to UV rays. Does this coating do anything about harmful radiation? I think that is more important than stay-kool, which can be managed by increasing the A/C.


All this is pure nonsense propagated by vested interests. If sunlight exposure caused cancer there would have been no human race IMHO.
In fact most of us must be suffering various ailments due to lack of exposure to sunlight these days.
Sorry .
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Old 18th February 2014, 13:37   #12
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Re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

I look at these Bans as a money making business lobby; Well this is my point of view

1. Majority of consumers put sunfilms once in their lifetime of the car
2. Sunfilm industry in India is multi billion
3. Most customers are one time in 4-5 years
4. only source of income is new car owners

So how do you make more money??

You remove all the sun-films; a few year later allow; and there you go.. you get to sell to the entire customer base [I have seen it happen in some form or other in the last 10 years]

Its is just a matter of time when SC will be over-ruled and we will be allowed to use sunfilms maybe 75% VLT and all of us will run to make; I hears money raining into bank vaults

At the end of the day, its a lobby which is strong...

Sorry if I came across as negative..
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Re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

Anyone knows when this Stay-Kool would be available for actual usage/purchase within the major cities in India? The website recommends to visit again in late Feb.
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Re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

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Originally Posted by DeepakMenon View Post
I look at these Bans as a money making business lobby; Well this is my point of view

1. Majority of consumers put sunfilms once in their lifetime of the car
2. Sunfilm industry in India is multi billion
3. Most customers are one time in 4-5 years
4. only source of income is new car owners

So how do you make more money??

You remove all the sun-films; a few year later allow; and there you go.. you get to sell to the entire customer base [I have seen it happen in some form or other in the last 10 years]

Its is just a matter of time when SC will be over-ruled and we will be allowed to use sunfilms maybe 75% VLT and all of us will run to make; I hears money raining into bank vaults

At the end of the day, its a lobby which is strong...

Sorry if I came across as negative..
This is the bitter truth & this is how people make money.

The govt wants us to use only 0.40 microns thick plastics & has even instructed retailers to charge for the plastic bags. But they just can't ban plastic bags, why?

Cause they will loose revenue in doing so, same goes with tobacco, where they instruct the companies to post pics of people affected due to excessive tobacco consumption.

Anyways, if the SC judgement is over-ruled, will definitely be a relief for many. I will be the first to get one
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Old 18th February 2014, 15:58   #15
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Re: Stay-Kool Micro coating on Glass. Alternative to Sunfilm?

If we follow the supreme court ruling I believe this product would be illegal. I am reproducing the supreme court ruling below for everyone's convenience.

***Writ Petition (Civil ) No. 265 of 2011

“The manufacturer of the vehicle may manufacture the vehicles with tinted glasses which have Visual Light Transmission (VLT) of safety glasses windscreen (front and rear) as 70 per cent VLT and side glasses as 40 per cent VLT, respectively. No black film or any other material can be pasted on the windscreens and side glasses of a vehicle.

For the reasons afore-stated, we prohibit the use of black films of any VLT percentage or any other material upon the safety glasses, windscreens (front and rear) and side glasses of all vehicles throughout the country. The Home Secretary, Director General/Commissioner of Police of the respective States/Centre shall ensure compliance with this direction. The directions contained in this judgment shall become operative and enforceable with effect from 4th May, 2012.”***

The ruling clearly says "any other material" which to my mind clearly makes this product illegal.

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