LPG kit to turbocharged baleno

neo_trace · 29th July 2006, 14:09

hi
i have turbocharged baleno and want to fit LPG kit to it due to high octane of LPG and petrol injectors having problem to feed petrol as needed at high boost and rpm (one fitted it to mesarati twin turbo...hehehe). baleno takes JATKAS at high RPM at even 4 psi

does anyone know How to fit LPG kit?

simply giving gas injection to air filter pipe (that means pipe between intercooler out and intake in ...after Blow off valve)?
OR
need to drill intake pipes and put four gas injectors at each intake pipe?

help

jkdas · 29th July 2006, 14:18

To start with, could you post some pix of your turbo and the lot.

naveendhyani · 29th July 2006, 14:28

@ neo_trace: what is the performance gain, FE & cost incurred in getting ur baleno turbocharged?

kpzen · 29th July 2006, 14:45

Another neo with a turbocharged ride ......
pics pls

Ford Rocam · 29th July 2006, 15:48

you want to fit LPG kit on Turbo charged Baleno???

I am speachless !!!

viper · 29th July 2006, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo_trace

hi
i have turbocharged baleno and want to fit LPG kit to it due to high octane of LPG and petrol injectors having problem to feed petrol as needed at high boost and rpm (one fitted it to mesarati twin turbo...hehehe). baleno takes JATKAS at high RPM at even 4 psi

does anyone know How to fit LPG kit?

simply giving gas injection to air filter pipe (that means pipe between intercooler out and intake in ...after Blow off valve)?
OR
need to drill intake pipes and put four gas injectors at each intake pipe?

help

Hi,

Who and where did you get your turbo installed from and what did it cost you. What does he have to say to the problem.

Viper

Boom Shiva · 29th July 2006, 16:25

Hang on, you want to install LPG to INCREASE the performance???

kpzen · 29th July 2006, 17:08

I think he wants a NOS kit......LPG is typo i guess

shrivz · 29th July 2006, 17:29

it better be a typo... otherwise, I'me speechlesss!!!

mclaren1885 · 29th July 2006, 18:27

First and foremost neo really sorry about the PMs couldnt reply as i was out of town .. However read ur PMs on clubaleno too.. Though im not quite sure if any indian injectors would be a bolt onto the baleno i shall try to figure out very soon.. Im told that the WRX injectors are a bolt on ..

However coming onto the part of running ur TC on LPG i guess it could turn out to be a good idea .. I guess psycho was initially planning to do the same on his esteem , so obviously got to have some pros as well .. I guess u can contact him for further technical details .. I guess ur car was done up by karan right ??

And guys that said , lets not jump to conclusions about this turbo setup .. I have been watching neo on not only on TBHP but on other baleno forums too and he has posted about this problem ages back .. However i surely would love to see the pics of ur TC setup too ..

Mpower · 29th July 2006, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by neo_trace

simply giving gas injection to air filter pipe (that means pipe between intercooler out and intake in ...after Blow off valve)?
OR
need to drill intake pipes and put four gas injectors at each intake pipe?
help

LPG kit will have to be fitted in the same way its fitted to every other car except make sure the connections are leak proof since the manifold is now pressurised.

Alternative is to fit a 5th injector in the plenum for hi-boost and hi-rev secnarios, but I dont know what kind of ECU you have in order to drive it.

nitrous · 29th July 2006, 20:33

Quote:

And guys that said , lets not jump to conclusions about this turbo setup .. I have been watching neo on not only on TBHP but on other baleno forums too and he has posted about this problem ages back ..

Dude, Just because he can post on other forums doesnt make him legit.
If he's got the stuff, let him post pics. SEEING IS BELIEVING!

PS: If Karan had worked on it, Ford_Rocam must know since he too is Karan's client. That said, we're WAITING FOR PICS!!!

neo_trace · 29th July 2006, 20:35

HI
sorry guy my TC baleno is at colour job . i ll send u pictures as soon as possible . My tc work has done by N1racing company...name anant pithawala.(www.*************.com)
i have fitted following parts
K&N free flow air intake
polished heads and throttle body
NGX irridium spark plugs 4
free flow header to fit my turbo
Garrett T3/T4 hybrid turbocharger
PWR AERO2 air to air cooling intercooler and sillicon hoses with clamps
custom made oil feed and oil return line and oil pressure sender switches
free flow exhaust system with collector (to improve humming sound)
5Ziegen exhaust
stock pistons and stock fuel injectors
FSE raising rate fuel pressure regulator
Turbosmart TYPE 1 blow off valve
Turbosmart boost controller
Turbosmart fuel cut defender (to HACK ecu fuel cut problem)
Ecu and system voltage stabilizer
TURBOTIME turbo timer (set at 1 min )
Air to fuel ratio check ,oil temp check,oil press check, fuel press check,boost display .......meters

Right now running at only 4 psi (due to injectors problem )
i m getting my turbo spool at 2500 rpm (which is Great at 4 psi...isnt it ?) and reaches to 6500 rpm fast

I Drove her 210Kmph at baroda -ahmedabad express way for only @15 to 20 seconds (although check engine light was flashing all tha time and injectors was creating problem giving car no fuel for fraction of seconds and car was taking JATKAS at full press of accl. pedal)

_______________AND the LPG matter____________________________
I have researched that LPG has high octane value (110) and is better then our BHARAT PETROLIUM SPEED97 ..with good quality computer operated LPG kit fitments (with step motor )and 2 gas vaporiser units (?) and with GAS injection system u can send GAS as much as u want to with tha help of boosted air comming from intercooler ..no need of fuel managment system, no remapping of ECU , no need to change fuel injectors and can go safely 8 psi of boost and many people from abroad made there turbo cars (even petrol landcruisers , rangerovers ,fords, vovlos and even [COLOR=#0000cc]Maserati[/COLOR]s)

viper · 29th July 2006, 20:45

[quote=neo_trace]HI
sorry guy my TC baleno is at colour job . i ll send u pictures as soon as possible . My tc work has done by N1racing company...

Hi,

Am not surprised that you are having problems. I did not read anywhere that you have a fuel management system or a remapped ECU. How in the world is your car going to run right without either or both of the above. Anyways what does he have to say about this.

Was your car done at Mumbai or Surat. How much did you pay for the whole job and stuff you have listed.

Viper

diven_b · 29th July 2006, 21:18

@neo......
dude anant was working on a tc baleno in feb...is urs the one?

29th July 2006, 14:09	#1
neo_trace BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: surat,gujarat Posts: 191 Thanked: 40 Times	LPG kit to turbocharged baleno hi i have turbocharged baleno and want to fit LPG kit to it due to high octane of LPG and petrol injectors having problem to feed petrol as needed at high boost and rpm (one fitted it to mesarati twin turbo...hehehe). baleno takes JATKAS at high RPM at even 4 psi does anyone know How to fit LPG kit? simply giving gas injection to air filter pipe (that means pipe between intercooler out and intake in ...after Blow off valve)? OR need to drill intake pipes and put four gas injectors at each intake pipe? help
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29th July 2006, 14:18	#2
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	To start with, could you post some pix of your turbo and the lot.
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29th July 2006, 14:28	#3
naveendhyani BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 542 Thanked: 9 Times	@ neo_trace: what is the performance gain, FE & cost incurred in getting ur baleno turbocharged?
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29th July 2006, 14:45	#4
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Another neo with a turbocharged ride ...... pics pls
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29th July 2006, 15:48	#5
Ford Rocam BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai-India Posts: 878 Thanked: 23 Times	you want to fit LPG kit on Turbo charged Baleno??? I am speachless !!!
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29th July 2006, 16:25	#7
Boom Shiva BANNED Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,055 Thanked: 18 Times	Hang on, you want to install LPG to INCREASE the performance???
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29th July 2006, 17:08	#8
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	I think he wants a NOS kit......LPG is typo i guess
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29th July 2006, 17:29	#9
shrivz BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pune, MH12 Posts: 604 Thanked: 96 Times View My Garage	it better be a typo... otherwise, I'me speechlesss!!!
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29th July 2006, 18:27	#10
mclaren1885 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 4,820 Thanked: 45 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (10)	First and foremost neo really sorry about the PMs couldnt reply as i was out of town .. However read ur PMs on clubaleno too.. Though im not quite sure if any indian injectors would be a bolt onto the baleno i shall try to figure out very soon.. Im told that the WRX injectors are a bolt on .. However coming onto the part of running ur TC on LPG i guess it could turn out to be a good idea .. I guess psycho was initially planning to do the same on his esteem , so obviously got to have some pros as well .. I guess u can contact him for further technical details .. I guess ur car was done up by karan right ?? And guys that said , lets not jump to conclusions about this turbo setup .. I have been watching neo on not only on TBHP but on other baleno forums too and he has posted about this problem ages back .. However i surely would love to see the pics of ur TC setup too ..
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29th July 2006, 20:35	#13
neo_trace BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: surat,gujarat Posts: 191 Thanked: 40 Times	HI sorry guy my TC baleno is at colour job . i ll send u pictures as soon as possible . My tc work has done by N1racing company...name anant pithawala.(www.***********.com) i have fitted following parts K&N free flow air intake polished heads and throttle body NGX irridium spark plugs 4 free flow header to fit my turbo Garrett T3/T4 hybrid turbocharger PWR AERO2 air to air cooling intercooler and sillicon hoses with clamps custom made oil feed and oil return line and oil pressure sender switches free flow exhaust system with collector (to improve humming sound) 5Ziegen exhaust stock pistons and stock fuel injectors FSE raising rate fuel pressure regulator Turbosmart TYPE 1 blow off valve Turbosmart boost controller Turbosmart fuel cut defender (to HACK ecu fuel cut problem) Ecu and system voltage stabilizer TURBOTIME turbo timer (set at 1 min ) Air to fuel ratio check ,oil temp check,oil press check, fuel press check,boost display .......meters Right now running at only 4 psi (due to injectors problem ) i m getting my turbo spool at 2500 rpm (which is Great at 4 psi...isnt it ?) and reaches to 6500 rpm fast I Drove her 210Kmph at baroda -ahmedabad express way for only @15 to 20 seconds (although check engine light was flashing all tha time and injectors was creating problem giving car no fuel for fraction of seconds and car was taking JATKAS at full press of accl. pedal) _______________AND the LPG matter____________________________ I have researched that LPG has high octane value (110) and is better then our BHARAT PETROLIUM SPEED97 ..with good quality computer operated LPG kit fitments (with step motor )and 2 gas vaporiser units (?) and with GAS injection system u can send GAS as much as u want to with tha help of boosted air comming from intercooler ..no need of fuel managment system, no remapping of ECU , no need to change fuel injectors and can go safely 8 psi of boost and many people from abroad made there turbo cars (even petrol landcruisers , rangerovers ,fords, vovlos and even [COLOR=#0000cc]Maserati[/COLOR]**s)
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29th July 2006, 20:45	#14
viper BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 19 Times	[quote=neo_trace]HI sorry guy my TC baleno is at colour job . i ll send u pictures as soon as possible . My tc work has done by N1racing company... Hi, Am not surprised that you are having problems. I did not read anywhere that you have a fuel management system or a remapped ECU. How in the world is your car going to run right without either or both of the above. Anyways what does he have to say about this. Was your car done at Mumbai or Surat. How much did you pay for the whole job and stuff you have listed. Viper
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29th July 2006, 21:18	#15
diven_b BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 213 Thanked: Once View My Garage	@neo...... dude anant was working on a tc baleno in feb...is urs the one?
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