Hard Clutch on the Baleno

bruce · 21st August 2006, 17:00

Hi Friends,

I have been using my Baleno for 4 months now, all this while I have ignored the clutch system on this car, but it seems that the car has a very sluggish-hard clutch, my car was not driven for months and was stagnant at one place, so I thought replacing the clutch cable was a good idea and I did replace. Still the clutch is very hard, have you found the same problem?
Infact I checked few other cars in the garage, almost all cars had the same problem... can you let me know your thoughts on clutch in Baleno? And is there anyway to make this smoother?

Thanks

prince85 · 21st August 2006, 17:45

Yea i agree, I find my Baleno clutch pedal much harder to press compared to my Esteem. I think its pretty much the same in all the Baleno's, dunno the reason though!

Cheers

SLK · 21st August 2006, 17:57

yup.. don't know why.. but it seems some cars just have heavy clutches.
My WagonR's clutch is very very light... and the Alto with same engine and gearbox has a considerably (compare with WagonR) heavy clutch.

The NHCs clutch though hydraulic is not effortless.

But then one can get used to anything..... people do drive Tata cars after all.

wolfinstein · 21st August 2006, 18:35

XETA's clutch is pretty soft on the Legs Sir...Maybe you're talking about a Sumo or TATA 407..!

bruce · 21st August 2006, 18:52

U r right SLK, my old WagonR was smooth as well as the Esteem...
Baleno is very hard compared to these cars...

SLK · 21st August 2006, 18:57

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Originally Posted by wolfinstein

XETA's clutch is pretty soft on the Legs Sir...Maybe you're talking about a Sumo or TATA 407..!

LOL.. yea must be... but Indica V2 wasn't.
Again it depends soft in comparison to what..... try a wagonR.

wolfinstein · 21st August 2006, 22:00

Ofcourse I would'nt call it light like my lancers hydraulic clutch..! But not much different from a wagon r feel...! slightly harder...!
Initially the clutch system is hard, But I guess with usage it becomes softer or just a mind perception..!

Buffetfan · 22nd August 2006, 11:41

Guess you guys have not tried cars from the fiat stable then....I had a uno for 6 years and the Baleno's clutch does not even require 30% of the effort compared to the Hydraulic jack that you have to move in the Uno. Palios have pretty heavy clutches too!!

meerkat · 22nd August 2006, 12:20

I'm surprised you felt the Baleno's clutch is hard. I've never felt
so, -- rather I feel it is just right, effortless even ! Admittedly,
the feeling is rather subjective, -- depends on your reference
too! But all my previous experiences were with automatics, so
if my first clutch doesn't bother me ..... :-).

bruce · 22nd August 2006, 15:08

hmmm okie, another point that i dont like, is the fifth gear & reverse gear they don't engage that well.

meerkat · 22nd August 2006, 16:12

Yeah, I agree. Especially the reverse, which misses at times.
The only slots that are effortless, are 3rd and 4th. Thankfully,
that's where I spend most of the time with Baleno.

shrivz · 22nd August 2006, 19:30

The Baleno's clutch is indeed hard...

I think that the gearbox is extremely hard too in the baleno.. it lightens up after replacing the clutch plate and pressure plate, but after 500kms, it again becomes rock solid.. There was a noticable difference after I used Bardhal gear oil additive!

are any of you facing the problem of a hard gearbox in your Balenos

shuvc · 23rd August 2006, 13:54

I too had some initial problems with 5th and the reverse, but that was in the first 1000 odd kms.
Almost 7000 kms on the odo now. The gears slot in smoothly and the clutch feels effortless. I guess there's an element of getting used to it too.

praveen.ba · 6th September 2009, 12:46

The problem seems to be with all baleno cars including mine. I infact got the clutch plate etc changed but to little change

gigy · 6th September 2009, 19:55

clutch cables are hard now because its a mgp cable which is available in market. if you manage a sgp cable it will be smooth as before. i tested them and have put back old sgp cable even though it makes sqeeking noise. you can also route the present cable as straight as possible and see the difference. the hardness increases with increasing twist and turns with mgp one. this one presently available is actually of esteem. you will also notice the replacement one is short in length.

21st August 2006, 17:00	#1
bruce BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 140 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	Hard Clutch on the Baleno Hi Friends, I have been using my Baleno for 4 months now, all this while I have ignored the clutch system on this car, but it seems that the car has a very sluggish-hard clutch, my car was not driven for months and was stagnant at one place, so I thought replacing the clutch cable was a good idea and I did replace. Still the clutch is very hard, have you found the same problem? Infact I checked few other cars in the garage, almost all cars had the same problem... can you let me know your thoughts on clutch in Baleno? And is there anyway to make this smoother? Thanks
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21st August 2006, 17:45	#2
prince85 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 971 Thanked: 123 Times	Yea i agree, I find my Baleno clutch pedal much harder to press compared to my Esteem. I think its pretty much the same in all the Baleno's, dunno the reason though! Cheers
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21st August 2006, 17:57	#3
SLK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DL XX XX XXXX Posts: 1,634 Thanked: 1,011 Times	yup.. don't know why.. but it seems some cars just have heavy clutches. My WagonR's clutch is very very light... and the Alto with same engine and gearbox has a considerably (compare with WagonR) heavy clutch. The NHCs clutch though hydraulic is not effortless. But then one can get used to anything..... people do drive Tata cars after all.
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21st August 2006, 18:35	#4
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	XETA's clutch is pretty soft on the Legs Sir...Maybe you're talking about a Sumo or TATA 407..!
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21st August 2006, 18:52	#5
bruce BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 140 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	U r right SLK, my old WagonR was smooth as well as the Esteem... Baleno is very hard compared to these cars...
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21st August 2006, 22:00	#7
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	Ofcourse I would'nt call it light like my lancers hydraulic clutch..! But not much different from a wagon r feel...! slightly harder...! Initially the clutch system is hard, But I guess with usage it becomes softer or just a mind perception..!
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22nd August 2006, 11:41	#8
Buffetfan Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 1,128 Thanked: 195 Times	Guess you guys have not tried cars from the fiat stable then....I had a uno for 6 years and the Baleno's clutch does not even require 30% of the effort compared to the Hydraulic jack that you have to move in the Uno. Palios have pretty heavy clutches too!!
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22nd August 2006, 12:20	#9
meerkat BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: World Posts: 123 Thanked: 181 Times	Hard clutch ?!!! I'm surprised you felt the Baleno's clutch is hard. I've never felt so, -- rather I feel it is just right, effortless even ! Admittedly, the feeling is rather subjective, -- depends on your reference too! But all my previous experiences were with automatics, so if my first clutch doesn't bother me ..... :-).
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22nd August 2006, 15:08	#10
bruce BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 140 Thanked: 5 Times View My Garage	hmmm okie, another point that i dont like, is the fifth gear & reverse gear they don't engage that well.
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22nd August 2006, 16:12	#11
meerkat BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: World Posts: 123 Thanked: 181 Times	Gears are not that great ! Yeah, I agree. Especially the reverse, which misses at times. The only slots that are effortless, are 3rd and 4th. Thankfully, that's where I spend most of the time with Baleno.
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22nd August 2006, 19:30	#12
shrivz BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pune, MH12 Posts: 604 Thanked: 96 Times View My Garage	The Baleno's clutch is indeed hard... I think that the gearbox is extremely hard too in the baleno.. it lightens up after replacing the clutch plate and pressure plate, but after 500kms, it again becomes rock solid.. There was a noticable difference after I used Bardhal gear oil additive! are any of you facing the problem of a hard gearbox in your Balenos
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23rd August 2006, 13:54	#13
shuvc Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kolkata Posts: 2,913 Thanked: 352 Times View My Garage	I too had some initial problems with 5th and the reverse, but that was in the first 1000 odd kms. Almost 7000 kms on the odo now. The gears slot in smoothly and the clutch feels effortless. I guess there's an element of getting used to it too.
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6th September 2009, 12:46	#14
praveen.ba BHPian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 36 Thanked: 5 Times	The problem seems to be with all baleno cars including mine. I infact got the clutch plate etc changed but to little change
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6th September 2009, 19:55	#15
gigy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: mumbai Posts: 1,321 Thanked: 47 Times	clutch cables are hard now because its a mgp cable which is available in market. if you manage a sgp cable it will be smooth as before. i tested them and have put back old sgp cable even though it makes sqeeking noise. you can also route the present cable as straight as possible and see the difference. the hardness increases with increasing twist and turns with mgp one. this one presently available is actually of esteem. you will also notice the replacement one is short in length. Last edited by gigy : 6th September 2009 at 20:05.
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