Which is quicker Bike or Car ?

kooldude · 12th May 2005, 12:35

ya sure but do these cars win from the dtsi i m sure they will

Shan2nu · 12th May 2005, 12:39

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ya sure but do these cars win from the dtsi i m sure they will

Ofcourse they'll beat the bike. A bikes only weapon is it's straightline acceleration but in this case, both the Ikon and the NHC have a faster 0-100 acceleration time.

If you wanna see some real racing action, try stock Zen vs 180 dtsi.

Shan2nu

kooldude · 12th May 2005, 12:44

i dont know about the zen but will try esteem 65 bhp + a muffler vs cbz ported

superavi · 12th May 2005, 13:23

Shan2nu,

I guess that math is pretty correct. But I'm wondering whether a modded fiero can do 0-100 in 10 secs.

There's no way the Optra can do 100 in under 10. I think about 11 is more the figure for the optra.

The one thing that Bikers can do is get home early in crazy city driving conditions. Ofcourse many end up without limbs at the end of the day!

typeOnegative · 16th May 2005, 20:07

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Originally Posted by Shan2nu

For the record, a MotoGP bike has a better power to weight ratio than an F1 car.

Have you considered that the effect of having a rider on the bike reduces the power to weight ratio of the bike considerably?

You also have to consider the fact that the CG of an F1 machine is way lower than that of a MotoGP bike.

Shan2nu · 16th May 2005, 20:14

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Have you considered that the effect of having a rider on the bike reduces the power to weight ratio of the bike considerably?

You also have to consider the fact that the CG of an F1 machine is way lower than that of a MotoGP bike.

Thats the whole point. So, the next time someone dreams of racing his bike against a similar car, DON'T. Hehe

If a bike has to beat a car, it'll need close to twice the power to weight ratio (maybe even more).

Shan2nu

typeOnegative · 16th May 2005, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Shan2nu

Thats the whole point. So, the next time someone dreams of racing his bike against a similar car, DON'T. Hehe

If a bike has to beat a car, it'll need close to twice the power to weight ratio (maybe even more).

Shan2nu

Even then it might not be able to beat the car. Bikes are dangerous things especially when they are loaded with horses.

But yeah, in city conditions, a bike will whip any car into submission.

adya33 · 16th May 2005, 20:58

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But yeah, in city conditions, a bike will whip any car into submission.

I disagree with you!

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5583

typeOnegative · 16th May 2005, 21:56

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Originally Posted by adya33

I disagree with you!

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5583

Try that in rush hour - true city conditions.

nitrous · 17th May 2005, 17:27

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in city conditions, a bike will whip any car into submission

there can be no argument on ur point. r u a member of xbhp?? since u hate cars so much..

ask rossi(moto GP) to beat schumi(F1) on a track... can he?? the score sheets already say he can't so. shall we please stop this "coffee... toffee" ??

Technocrat · 17th May 2005, 18:37

See for a given CC :

-> A 2 stroke Bike is Quicker/Faster than a 4 Stroke bike.
-> A bike is Quicker/Faster than a Car of same cc.

Simple

Shan2nu · 17th May 2005, 18:44

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A bike is Quicker/Faster than a Car of same cc.

Simple

It's not that simple as a bike weighs less than half the weight of the car. Power to weight is what i'm looking at.

Shan2nu

Technocrat · 17th May 2005, 18:56

Exactly sir & thats why i said simple

The thread asked which is quicker & for that we need to have some baseic standard for comparo & I used cc as the base for comparison.

typeOnegative · 17th May 2005, 19:47

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Originally Posted by nitrous

there can be no argument on ur point. r u a member of xbhp?? since u hate cars so much..

ask rossi(moto GP) to beat schumi(F1) on a track... can he?? the score sheets already say he can't so. shall we please stop this "coffee... toffee" ??

Whats your point? All I am trying to say is that in some practical situations bikes will beat cars. Are you upset about that? Cool down.

I think I have registered at xbhp. But I do not post there and that site does not interest me very much. And btw, I love my car more than my bike!

Technocrat · 17th May 2005, 19:56

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Originally Posted by nitrous

there can be no argument on ur point. r u a member of xbhp?? since u hate cars so much..

Even I am a member of xBhp but I dont hate cars.

12th May 2005, 12:35	#46
kooldude BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Charlotte,North Carolina Posts: 283 Thanked: 0 Times	ya sure but do these cars win from the dtsi i m sure they will
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12th May 2005, 12:44	#48
kooldude BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Charlotte,North Carolina Posts: 283 Thanked: 0 Times	i dont know about the zen but will try esteem 65 bhp + a muffler vs cbz ported
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12th May 2005, 13:23	#49
superavi BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London Posts: 286 Thanked: 29 Times	Optra vs Fiero Shan2nu, I guess that math is pretty correct. But I'm wondering whether a modded fiero can do 0-100 in 10 secs. There's no way the Optra can do 100 in under 10. I think about 11 is more the figure for the optra. The one thing that Bikers can do is get home early in crazy city driving conditions. Ofcourse many end up without limbs at the end of the day!
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Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	See for a given CC : -> A 2 stroke Bike is Quicker/Faster than a 4 Stroke bike. -> A bike is Quicker/Faster than a Car of same cc. Simple
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17th May 2005, 18:56	#58
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Exactly sir & thats why i said simple The thread asked which is quicker & for that we need to have some baseic standard for comparo & I used cc as the base for comparison.
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