Door Handles Being Painted Query ?

wolfinstein · 30th September 2006, 19:12

Hi,

I am getting the Door Handles and Mirrors of My XETA painted to the Body Colour Artic Silver, However the Works manager has advised me against it saying that the paint does not last long..! Just wanted advice on how practical it is..! I can understand that the Paint might scratch out of the Driver side Mirror just incase something brushes against. But has anyone got their handles painted and how has the finish lasted.

Their are some Tar spot on the underside of both the Bumpers, Since I could not find any Goowasher or something that was being discussed, Is it safe to use Diesal, Paint finish would be affected or not.

condor · 30th September 2006, 19:26

Dont see a problem with the painting. Had converted my DLE to a DLS [before Tata had a DLS variant], and never saw any traces of what this works manager has said.

Even if the paint gets scratched, the area to be repainted is pretty small to cost you much.

Godfather · 30th September 2006, 19:31

No issues... get them painted.
DIESEL as i have quoted on another thread will remove the TAR stains also.. i had used this on my esteem to remove ugly the tar marks..

wolfinstein · 30th September 2006, 19:31

so how many coats did they do, 1 or 2 before the clear was applied, As far as I'm aware, for good paintwork on plastic a primer coat has to applied, But the works manager din't mention any of this since he was trying to dissuade it in the first place...! Thanks condor, I think I will go ahead with it...Any suggestion guys.

kpzen · 30th September 2006, 19:41

Get them painted...

Work manager isn't interested i guess bcos it isn't a major job or the Body shop must be overloaded at the moment...N ya a primer coat is necessary or the paint will start peeling off after sometime....

Use diesel to remove tar spots wont cause any prob to the paint

esteem_lover · 3rd October 2006, 00:05

if what the W.M is saying is right, then why does the company bring out cars with body coloured bumpers & door handles & R.V. Mirrors for their premium models ? please go ahead & get them done. i am also doing the same for my car.

elf · 3rd October 2006, 02:48

@wolfinstein: Ignore the moronic Works Manager. He works for Tata, so don't expect any knowlege or experience outta those nincompoops.

You can go ahead with the painting of the RVMs & the door handles provided you get a coat or two of red oxide surface primer (also known as 'laal astar' in the garage lingo). The painted surfaces shouldn't chip under ordinary circumstances, & the red oxide primer forms a great bond between your surface (in this case, plastic), & your paint.

You can also use diesel to remove tar marks - all service stations use it during the service, & garages do it during a wax/polish job.

ajayclicks · 5th October 2006, 13:51

I (my car, I coz I was driving) brushed past a bus

, and my handles became

white!!!!!!!!!!!!

When i took my car to the garage, the guy painted the handles. It looks decent, cant make out from a distance that they are painted.. and in the last 5 months atleast, they have not faded or chipped.

Cheers
Ajay

s0uljah · 25th February 2007, 14:05

Since the swift VXI does not come with Body colour ORVM/door handles Iv requested for the same.

I assumed they would just replace the existing ones with a new coloured set but yeah Manager says he will get them painted (Approx 2.5k for 2 ORVM & Handles). Left me wondering if it will be a good job or not.

Guess I need to ask for the painting to be done prior to registration and inspect it. How to check for the primer? Is it the same as 'lacquering' ?

elf · 26th February 2007, 01:14

No s0uljah. Primer & laquer are two ends of the painting process.

Primer is applied to 'prime' or prepare the surface. It forms a bond between the paint (or putty/'lambi' in case of metal) & the surface being painted.

Once the primer is dry, paint is applied & when that dries, one can spray laquer to finish the paint & further prevent microscopic pores.

Secondly, I doubt that your dealer will paint the parts before registration, as there is a possibility that you might decline your acceptance of the car if you're not satisfied with their job.

Technically, you need to buy the car first & then get whatever modifications from stock that you desire.

s0uljah · 26th February 2007, 18:51

Thanks for jogging my memory elfy, now I remember the coats of primer that IV seen used.

Oh yeah about registration that should have read delivery.

Catch them doing absolutely anything for me without the moolah in the bank and the loan sanction.

gbpscars · 26th February 2007, 19:13

wolfinstein,

"works manager" is a designation, there is surely nothing technical about him. just a marketing guy in disguise to save his company's face.

go on with it... primer, paint, clear-coat et al.

You will never regret as long as you get the right match to the body's current weathered shade.

30th September 2006, 19:12	#1
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	Door Handles Being Painted Query ? Hi, I am getting the Door Handles and Mirrors of My XETA painted to the Body Colour Artic Silver, However the Works manager has advised me against it saying that the paint does not last long..! Just wanted advice on how practical it is..! I can understand that the Paint might scratch out of the Driver side Mirror just incase something brushes against. But has anyone got their handles painted and how has the finish lasted. Their are some Tar spot on the underside of both the Bumpers, Since I could not find any Goowasher or something that was being discussed, Is it safe to use Diesal, Paint finish would be affected or not.
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30th September 2006, 19:26	#2
condor Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Speed-brkr City Posts: 15,864 Thanked: 16,014 Times View My Garage	Dont see a problem with the painting. Had converted my DLE to a DLS [before Tata had a DLS variant], and never saw any traces of what this works manager has said. Even if the paint gets scratched, the area to be repainted is pretty small to cost you much.
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30th September 2006, 19:31	#3
Godfather Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore / Atlanta Posts: 1,387 Thanked: 70 Times View My Garage	No issues... get them painted. DIESEL as i have quoted on another thread will remove the TAR stains also.. i had used this on my esteem to remove ugly the tar marks..
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30th September 2006, 19:31	#4
wolfinstein BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 994 Thanked: 20 Times	so how many coats did they do, 1 or 2 before the clear was applied, As far as I'm aware, for good paintwork on plastic a primer coat has to applied, But the works manager din't mention any of this since he was trying to dissuade it in the first place...! Thanks condor, I think I will go ahead with it...Any suggestion guys.
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30th September 2006, 19:41	#5
kpzen Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Faridabad Posts: 5,610 Thanked: 1,876 Times View My Garage	Get them painted... Work manager isn't interested i guess bcos it isn't a major job or the Body shop must be overloaded at the moment...N ya a primer coat is necessary or the paint will start peeling off after sometime.... Use diesel to remove tar spots wont cause any prob to the paint
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3rd October 2006, 00:05	#6
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	if what the W.M is saying is right, then why does the company bring out cars with body coloured bumpers & door handles & R.V. Mirrors for their premium models ? please go ahead & get them done. i am also doing the same for my car.
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3rd October 2006, 02:48	#7
elf BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	@wolfinstein: Ignore the moronic Works Manager. He works for Tata, so don't expect any knowlege or experience outta those nincompoops. You can go ahead with the painting of the RVMs & the door handles provided you get a coat or two of red oxide surface primer (also known as 'laal astar' in the garage lingo). The painted surfaces shouldn't chip under ordinary circumstances, & the red oxide primer forms a great bond between your surface (in this case, plastic), & your paint. You can also use diesel to remove tar marks - all service stations use it during the service, & garages do it during a wax/polish job. Last edited by elf : 3rd October 2006 at 02:51.
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5th October 2006, 13:51	#8
ajayclicks BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 613 Thanked: 423 Times	I (my car, I coz I was driving) brushed past a bus , and my handles became white!!!!!!!!!!!! When i took my car to the garage, the guy painted the handles. It looks decent, cant make out from a distance that they are painted.. and in the last 5 months atleast, they have not faded or chipped. Cheers Ajay
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25th February 2007, 14:05	#9
s0uljah Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 2,222 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Since the swift VXI does not come with Body colour ORVM/door handles Iv requested for the same. I assumed they would just replace the existing ones with a new coloured set but yeah Manager says he will get them painted (Approx 2.5k for 2 ORVM & Handles). Left me wondering if it will be a good job or not. Guess I need to ask for the painting to be done prior to registration and inspect it. How to check for the primer? Is it the same as 'lacquering' ?
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26th February 2007, 01:14	#10
elf BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,039 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	No s0uljah. Primer & laquer are two ends of the painting process. Primer is applied to 'prime' or prepare the surface. It forms a bond between the paint (or putty/'lambi' in case of metal) & the surface being painted. Once the primer is dry, paint is applied & when that dries, one can spray laquer to finish the paint & further prevent microscopic pores. Secondly, I doubt that your dealer will paint the parts before registration, as there is a possibility that you might decline your acceptance of the car if you're not satisfied with their job. Technically, you need to buy the car first & then get whatever modifications from stock that you desire.
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26th February 2007, 18:51	#11
s0uljah Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 2,222 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Thanks for jogging my memory elfy, now I remember the coats of primer that IV seen used. Oh yeah about registration that should have read delivery. Catch them doing absolutely anything for me without the moolah in the bank and the loan sanction.
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26th February 2007, 19:13	#12
gbpscars BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Navi Mumbai Posts: 402 Thanked: 5 Times	wolfinstein, "works manager" is a designation, there is surely nothing technical about him. just a marketing guy in disguise to save his company's face. go on with it... primer, paint, clear-coat et al. You will never regret as long as you get the right match to the body's current weathered shade. Last edited by gbpscars : 26th February 2007 at 19:14.
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