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aa9031 1st December 2006 08:01

Bangalore - Maruti Versa DX - LPG Gas Kit recommendation
 
Hi,

I have a 2002 Maruti Versa DX 8-Seater.

I wish to convert it to run on LPG. Is it possible to put a gas kit
on the Versa. It has the esteem engine, so it should be possible, right?
I don't know if anybody has done it without removing any of the seats.

Also, can anybody suggest a competent installer in Bangalore? I have seen
a few lovato shops while driving around. Some posts on team-bhp say
that the Lovato kits have problems...

Which one of these works best for my Maruti Versa: Zavoli / B.R.C / Lovato?

Any help is appreciated.

thx

-aa

esteem_lover 1st December 2006 13:51

it can most certainly be converted to LPG
You dont have to remove any of the seats.
There is a tank that fits right into your spare wheel well, which saves a lot of space.
From my experience, Lovato is average for the premium you pay, whereas other friends' experience says Zavoli is great.

mail4ajo 1st December 2006 18:18

I have been researching and exploring the feasibilty of an LPG conversion over the last 3 weeks. I have some good findings.

The OE LPG kit for Maruti (WagonR, Omni) is Minda-Impco. But there is no way you can get that kit in the retail market. They have approval for OE fitments only.

I have fanatically called across the world to get info on kits. I spoke to a senior officials at Minda, Haryana and also to an official at IMPCO Santa Ana, California through my Market research company. They confirmed that IMPCO has brought over BRC of Italy. This explains why BRC was the original OE fitment in the LPG Omni and also on a custom order of 500 Esteems for a tourist company. BRC couldn't clear the Bharat Stage III norms and they were out.

There is no representation from Minda-Impco anywhere in the country and the only hope is Maruti. However they don't sell the kits for the aftermarket fitment. We are left with BRC and Lovato(which I heard is no longer worth).

Zavolli, I heard good reviews, but haven't seen it myself. Will check it out and post feedback.

dl704p1 1st December 2006 18:56

Lpg Tank location needs to be inside...
 
esteem_lover...

I think the Maruti Versa Spare wheel is stuck under the van behind
the rear axle and may not have spare wheel well to put the small tank.

I think the only place to put it is behind the last row of seats, but am not
sure how big a tank will fit.

Best bet is to try and find anyone with a Versa that has a lpg kit fitted and
check the brand and fitment specs.

Thx

-dee

esteem_lover 3rd December 2006 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by dl704p1 (Post 331685)
esteem_lover...

I think the Maruti Versa Spare wheel is stuck under the van behind
the rear axle and may not have spare wheel well to put the small tank.

I think the only place to put it is behind the last row of seats, but am not
sure how big a tank will fit.

Best bet is to try and find anyone with a Versa that has a lpg kit fitted and
check the brand and fitment specs.

Thx

-dee

sorry, i was not aware of that. i presumed it had a wheel well. :)

nikkibike 7th December 2006 17:06

Lovato LPG Kit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mail4ajo (Post 331670)
We are left with BRC and Lovato(which I heard is no longer worth).

I know a dealer of this brand in my area who is dealing the same for last 10 years!!! When I enquired a kit for my Swift, what I cud understand from him is that only LOVATO has the approval of RTO authorities when fitted to a Swift!! Then, later I found that only Lovato has RTO approved kits for all Maruti models!!! RTO endorsement is one of the major critieria when an LPG kit is retrofitted on any car eh?!! What say?!

mail4ajo 7th December 2006 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikkibike (Post 334583)
I know a dealer of this brand in my area who is dealing the same for last 10 years!!! When I enquired a kit for my Swift, what I cud understand from him is that only LOVATO has the approval of RTO authorities when fitted to a Swift!! Then, later I found that only Lovato has RTO approved kits for all Maruti models!!! RTO endorsement is one of the major critieria when an LPG kit is retrofitted on any car eh?!! What say?!

Nikki, you have been greatly misled......

Don't feel I am boasting about my knowledge on this. I have been too much into this for the last few weeks. Please check the ARAI's website for the approved kits in India. Its just not LOVATO and BRC.

There are so many other kits inclusive of many Indian makers who have been approved. All kits are not approved for every car. The cars and models have also be mentioned in the sheet.

nikkibike 7th December 2006 20:22

Are you sure?!!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mail4ajo (Post 334640)
Nikki, you have been greatly misled......

Don't feel I am boasting about my knowledge on this. I have been too much into this for the last few weeks. Please check the ARAI's website for the approved kits in India. Its just not LOVATO and BRC.

There are so many other kits inclusive of many Indian makers who have been approved. All kits are not approved for every car. The cars and models have also be mentioned in the sheet.

Ajo, Are you sure that all those are suitable for Euro III / BS III vehicles?!!! Coz. what I know is that none other than Lovato has RTO approved kits for E III / BS III version cars!!!! Pl clarify.... juz curious!!

mail4ajo 7th December 2006 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikkibike (Post 334685)
Ajo, Are you sure that all those are suitable for Euro III / BS III vehicles?!!! Coz. what I know is that none other than Lovato has RTO approved kits for E III / BS III version cars!!!! Pl clarify.... juz curious!!

LOVATO kits is not the mother of all gas kits. Check this link for your answer: http://araiindia.com/html/upload/cmv...son_7Aug06.xls

And also ask the guy who gave you the incorrect information not to Bull*** you again.

vigsom 7th December 2006 22:11

Versa To Be Gassed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aa9031 (Post 331248)
Hi,

I have a 2002 Maruti Versa DX 8-Seater.

I wish to convert it to run on LPG. Is it possible to put a gas kit
on the Versa. It has the esteem engine, so it should be possible, right?
I don't know if anybody has done it without removing any of the seats.

Also, can anybody suggest a competent installer in Bangalore? I have seen
a few lovato shops while driving around. Some posts on team-bhp say
that the Lovato kits have problems...

Which one of these works best for my Maruti Versa: Zavoli / B.R.C / Lovato?

Any help is appreciated.

thx

-aa

Welcome aboard!!!!

An LPG kit can be fitted.The Tank is a cylindrical one slightly lower in diameter than the regular cylindrical ones and will fit behind teh second row seat.I would recommend Tartarini,if that is available in B'Lore.Next best is Lovato..easily serviceable.

gr8guzzler 7th December 2006 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by mail4ajo (Post 331670)
The OE LPG kit for Maruti (WagonR, Omni) is Minda-Impco. But there is no way you can get that kit in the retail market. They have approval for OE fitments only.

Are you sure of this? I have a Minda Impco kit fitted in my Ikon and I had got it retro fitted by their dealer in Navi Mumbai.

mail4ajo 8th December 2006 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8guzzler (Post 334751)
Are you sure of this? I have a Minda Impco kit fitted in my Ikon and I had got it retro fitted by their dealer in Navi Mumbai.

Minda Impco kit for Ikon is not approved as per ARAI website. When did you do the conversion and do you have RTO approval? Search this link and see if Minda is mentioned against Ford Ikon on any of the worksheets. You wont:
http://araiindia.com/html/upload/cmv...son_7Aug06.xls

Minda Impco is authorised for Maruti Wagon R only as OE fitment and for Ambassador Nova, Indica, Zen, Esteem, M800, Uno, M1000, Padmini and 118NE as aftermarket fitment.

Infact the approval kits for Ikon are BRC, SKN, Raajan Automotive etc.

aa9031 19th December 2006 20:22

Maruti Versa DX - LPG Kit
 
First of all, thanks for all the help and information.

I got a Zavoli brand kit fitted to the Versa and so far it works
flawlessly. I made a trip to Mysore the last weekend and I think
it gave me about 11km/unit on LPG (I think) with clogged city traffic getting
out of and back into Bangalore and 80-90km/hr on the highways. There were 8 people in the van and assorted luggage on the roof rack.

REgarding the installation...
I was barely able to fit a 50lit Econ make tank fitted behind the last seat.
The speaker covers had to come off due to lack of space.
It took about 5 hours to do the whole thing including leak test, test ride,
paperwork, demo, etc...
Total cost was 19k including tax and service charges including a tank of
lpg.

I have the RTO paperwork from the installer which I am taking to the
Jayanagar sub divisional RTO tomorrow for endorsement.

I will keep everyone posted as to how that goes, considering that I have
no knowledge of Kannada and touts there are always on the lookout
for someone to con...

Thx

-aa

gr8guzzler 19th December 2006 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by mail4ajo (Post 334802)
do you have RTO approval?


Yes, I have got the RTO approval for the kit. Minda may not be an OEM supplier for Ford, but they do have aftermarket kits available for it. Check out the Minda site.

CrAzY dRiVeR 19th December 2006 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by mail4ajo (Post 331670)
There is no representation from Minda-Impco anywhere in the country and the only hope is Maruti. However they don't sell the kits for the aftermarket fitment.

There was a recent thread that MAruti autorized service centres are fitting LPG on its cars without voiding warranty

IS it not available for versa???


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