Pros & cons of hydraulic clutch

abhilashvk · 10th May 2007, 08:59

I thought Fusion and Palios had drive by wire technology...That is for the accelarator and nothing to do with the clutch, right ? (apologies for my ignorance!)

moralfibre · 10th May 2007, 09:02

I doubt the Santro and Swift comes with a hydraulic clutch. It is Cable as far as I know.

Vid6639 · 10th May 2007, 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by viper

Hi,

I think almost all Maruti's have cable operated clutches, OHC cable, Hyundai Accent & Getz hydraulic, Santro cable, Lancer cable, NHC cable, Optra hydraulic.

Lancer is a hydraulic clutch. moralfibre (not MF!!!

) the swift and santro both have hydraulic clutch.

ported_head · 10th May 2007, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

the swift and santro both have hydraulic clutch.

Swift Petrol is cable, Diesel is hydraulic.

Vid6639 · 10th May 2007, 13:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ported_head

Swift Petrol is cable, Diesel is hydraulic.

it is? okay then it must be, I trust you more than maggie.

reminder to self: beat up maggie for telling his swift had hydraulic clutch.

moralfibre · 10th May 2007, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

Lancer is a hydraulic clutch. moralfibre (not MF!!!

) the swift and santro both have hydraulic clutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ported_head

Swift Petrol is cable, Diesel is hydraulic.

I should have put it that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid6639

it is? okay then it must be, I trust you more than maggie.

I still think that the Santro clutch is cable operated. Will confirm tonight when I go home.

Gtea · 2nd June 2007, 03:32

The Scorpio also has a Hydraulic clutch.

Btw.. Is it possible to adjust a hydraulic clutch like cable operated ones?
(at least to a small extent??)

dadu · 2nd June 2007, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by moralfibre

I should have put it that way.

I still think that the Santro clutch is cable operated. Will confirm tonight when I go home.

You are right, Santro has cable operated clutch

prabuddhadg · 2nd June 2007, 09:52

The erstwhile Baleno used to have a hydraulic clutch

gd1418 · 3rd June 2007, 09:09

Tata Safari, M&M Scorpio, Totyota Qualis, Ford Endeavour and GM Forestor all have hydraulic clutch.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rehaan

Can someone please list some cars that have hydraulic clutches and some that have cable operated ones ?

cya
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Gurkha · 3rd June 2007, 11:18

Before all that, in 1986, the humble Trax introduced hydraulic clutch in India due to their getting the license for OM616 and TX-17 ZF tranny which only takes OEM MB clutch which is hydraulic, mechanical clutches are history due to their being too hard, specially on high power engines with heavy pressure plates, although I would admit, mechanical clutches have better feedback and easier to take abuse. Even on my VFJ Jonga, VFJ had to mod the original Nissan finger clutch to a hydraulic pressure plate diaphragm type due to the HINO engine's low end torque.

drpullockaran · 3rd June 2007, 12:30

Have you all noticed that majority of cars if not all have fluid operated brakes. Cable does not give you any warning at all before it fails unless you are lucky enough to have slowly shredding brake wire, if at all, like the ones used in motor cycles. Even bikes are now adopting fluid brakes especially in the front as fluid leaks give you ample warning before it completely fails.

As far as heavy vehicles are concerned everyone without exception use fluid actuated brakes.( Gases are fluids too)
The fluid reservoir is usually the same for the brake system and the clutch circuit and hence you will be forwarned by the dash light in case of low fluid for both like in the FIAT group of cars.

In the not too distant future the only cable operated part of the car could be the bonnet, petrol flap and boot release and the hand brake system.
Bye and wear your seat belts.

benbsb29 · 4th June 2007, 16:48

Just to confirm, the iKON has a hydraulic clutch (dan thought it was cable operated in this thread). In fact, the service advisor told me all Ford's in India have hydraulic clutches.

THE OFFROADER · 4th June 2007, 17:24

The only trouble i have with Hydraulic Clutches is that they need they seem heavy all the time and need good lubrication for 'you to be happy'.

ezee · 16th May 2009, 22:15

Hey guys do you know anything or any person about converting from cable clutch to hydraulic clutch. I drive Logan Diesel and that have a cable clutch, which is hardest among all, risk for knees.

Let me know if you anyone in Delhi, Gurgaon who can convert to hydraulic.

10th May 2007, 08:59	#16
abhilashvk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore/Calic Posts: 367 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	I thought Fusion and Palios had drive by wire technology...That is for the accelarator and nothing to do with the clutch, right ? (apologies for my ignorance!)
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10th May 2007, 09:02	#17
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,443 Thanked: 13,956 Times	I doubt the Santro and Swift comes with a hydraulic clutch. It is Cable as far as I know.
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2nd June 2007, 03:32	#22
Gtea BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shillong Posts: 163 Thanked: Once	The Scorpio also has a Hydraulic clutch. Btw.. Is it possible to adjust a hydraulic clutch like cable operated ones? (at least to a small extent??)
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2nd June 2007, 09:52	#24
prabuddhadg BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 812 Thanked: 81 Times View My Garage	The erstwhile Baleno used to have a hydraulic clutch
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3rd June 2007, 11:18	#26
Gurkha BANNED Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kalyani, West Bengal Posts: 444 Thanked: 10 Times	Before all that, in 1986, the humble Trax introduced hydraulic clutch in India due to their getting the license for OM616 and TX-17 ZF tranny which only takes OEM MB clutch which is hydraulic, mechanical clutches are history due to their being too hard, specially on high power engines with heavy pressure plates, although I would admit, mechanical clutches have better feedback and easier to take abuse. Even on my VFJ Jonga, VFJ had to mod the original Nissan finger clutch to a hydraulic pressure plate diaphragm type due to the HINO engine's low end torque.
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3rd June 2007, 12:30	#27
drpullockaran BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ERNAKULAM Posts: 962 Thanked: 385 Times	Its a matter of playing it safe. Have you all noticed that majority of cars if not all have fluid operated brakes. Cable does not give you any warning at all before it fails unless you are lucky enough to have slowly shredding brake wire, if at all, like the ones used in motor cycles. Even bikes are now adopting fluid brakes especially in the front as fluid leaks give you ample warning before it completely fails. As far as heavy vehicles are concerned everyone without exception use fluid actuated brakes.( Gases are fluids too) The fluid reservoir is usually the same for the brake system and the clutch circuit and hence you will be forwarned by the dash light in case of low fluid for both like in the FIAT group of cars. In the not too distant future the only cable operated part of the car could be the bonnet, petrol flap and boot release and the hand brake system. Bye and wear your seat belts.
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4th June 2007, 16:48	#28
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,963 Thanked: 13,154 Times View My Garage	Just to confirm, the iKON has a hydraulic clutch (dan thought it was cable operated in this thread). In fact, the service advisor told me all Ford's in India have hydraulic clutches.
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4th June 2007, 17:24	#29
THE OFFROADER Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dombivali [Thane] Posts: 3 Thanked: 0 Times	The only trouble i have with Hydraulic Clutches is that they need they seem heavy all the time and need good lubrication for 'you to be happy'.
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16th May 2009, 22:15	#30
ezee BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 203 Thanked: 213 Times	Hey guys do you know anything or any person about converting from cable clutch to hydraulic clutch. I drive Logan Diesel and that have a cable clutch, which is hardest among all, risk for knees. Let me know if you anyone in Delhi, Gurgaon who can convert to hydraulic.
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